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A26959 More proofs of infants church-membership and consequently their right to baptism, or, A second defence of our infant rights and mercies in three parts ... / by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1675 (1675) Wing B1312; ESTC R17239 210,005 430

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that_o which_o i_o say_v be_v but_o that_o all_o particular_a visible_a church_n and_o member_n make_v up_o one_o visible_a universal_a church_n and_o therefore_o every_o visible_a member_n of_o any_o particular_a church_n be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o universal_a he_o dare_v not_o deny_v this_o and_o yet_o a_o slander_n serve_v his_o turn_n sect_n xii_o r._n b._n concern_v the_o matter_n of_o the_o three_o question_n i_o assert_v that_o it_o be_v not_o only_o of_o the_o jew_n commonwealth_n that_o infant_n wer●_n member_n but_o of_o the_o church_n distinct_a from_o it_o this_o be_v prove_v sufficient_o in_o what_o be_v say_v before_o mr._n it_o be_v answer_n as_o yet_o i_o find_v it_o not_o prove_v that_o the_o jewish_a church_n be_v distinct_a from_o the_o commonwealth_n or_o that_o there_o be_v not_o any_o member_n of_o the_o church_n who_o be_v not_o of_o th●_n commonwealth_n reply_n 1._o it_o be_v only_o a_o formal_a and_o not_o a_o material_a distinction_n that_o i_o meddle_v with_o the_o formal_a reason_n of_o a_o church-member_n and_o a_o civil-member_n differ_v at_o least_o after_o the_o choice_n of_o king_n when_o the_o republic_n be_v constitute_v by_o a_o humane_a head_n of_o which_o i_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o mr._n galuspie_n aaron_n rod_n if_o the_o jew_n commonwealth_n be_v specify_v as_o a_o theocracy_n from_o god_n the_o sovereign_n the_o sichemite_n be_v of_o it_o and_o other_o nation_n may_v 2._o but_o many_o say_v that_o some_o be_v of_o the_o commonwealth_n that_o be_v not_o of_o the_o church_n though_o not_o contrary_o and_o be_v they_o distinct_a or_o not_o it_o suffice_v i_o that_o infant_n be_v of_o the_o church_n sect_n xiii_o fourteen_o xv_o xvi_o r._n b._n moreover_o 1._o infant_n be_v church-member_n in_o abraham_n family_n before_o circumcision_n and_o after_o when_o it_o be_v no_o commonwealth_n so_o they_o be_v in_o isaac_n jacob_n etc._n etc._n 2._o the_o banish_a captivate_v scatter_v jew_n that_o cease_v to_o be_v member_n of_o their_o commonwealth_n yet_o cease_v not_o to_o be_v of_o their_o church_n 3._o the_o people_n of_o the_o land_n that_o become_v jew_n in_o hester_n time_n join_v not_o themselves_o to_o their_o commonwealth_n nor_o the_o sichemite_n 4._o many_o proselyte_n never_o join_v themselves_o to_o their_o commonwealth_n mr._n t._n affirm_v they_o all_o to_o have_v be_v commonwealth_n answer_n the_o word_n be_v ambiguous_a may_v in_o a_o large_a sense_n be_v extend_v to_o a_o family_n and_o to_o a_o scatter_a people_n that_o have_v no_o sovereign_n but_o be_v not_o so_o usual_o take_v sect_n xvii_o r._n b._n the_o child_n of_o abraham_n by_o keturah_n when_o they_o be_v remove_v from_o his_o family_n be_v not_o unchurch_v and_o yet_o be_v no_o member_n of_o the_o jew_n commonwealth_n but_o i_o shall_v take_v up_o with_o what_o be_v say_v for_o this_o already_o undertake_v more_o large_o to_o manifest_v it_o when_o i_o perceive_v it_o necessary_a and_o useful_a mr._n it_o be_v answer_n 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and_o all_o their_o posterity_n to_o cease_v that_o usage_n as_o soon_o as_o they_o be_v out_o of_o abraham_n house_n when_o yet_o history_n assure_v we_o that_o they_o long_o continue_v it_o or_o whether_o god_n will_v have_v they_o circumcise_a and_o yet_o be_v no_o church-member_n believe_v as_o evidence_n constrain_v thou_o sect_n xviii_o r._n b._n to_o the_o four_o question_n i_o assert_v that_o 1._o there_o be_v a_o law_n or_o precept_n of_o god_n oblige_v the_o parent_n to_o enter_v their_o child_n into_o covenant_n with_o god_n by_o accept_v his_o favour_n and_o reingaging_a and_o devote_v they_o to_o god_n and_o so_o enter_v they_o solemn_o church-member_n and_o 2._o there_o be_v a_o covenant_n promise_n or_o grant_v of_o god_n by_o which_o he_o offer_v the_o church-membership_a of_o some_o infant_n and_o actual_o confer_v it_o where_o
and_o so_o it_o be_v make_v with_o the_o wicked_a of_o noah_n seed_n and_o even_o with_o the_o beast_n of_o the_o field_n yet_o do_v it_o import_v a_o special_a favour_n to_o noah_n and_o his_o seed_n as_o one_o who_o god_n will_v show_v a_o more_o special_a respect_n to_o as_o he_o have_v do_v in_o his_o deliverance_n and_o upon_o this_o special_a favour_n to_o he_o the_o creature_n fare_v the_o better_a for_o though_o the_o word_n covenant_n be_v the_o same_o to_o man_n and_o beast_n yet_o the_o diversity_n of_o the_o promissory_n and_o his_o capacity_n may_v put_v a_o different_a sense_n on_o the_o same_o word_n as_o apply_v to_o each_o and_o indeed_o it_o shall_v seem_v but_o a_o sad_a blessing_n to_o noah_n to_o hear_v a_o increase_n and_o multiply_v if_o all_o his_o infant_n posterity_n must_v be_v cast_v or_o leave_v out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o so_o leave_v as_o common_a or_o unclean_a this_o be_v to_o increase_v and_o multiply_v the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o devil_n if_o he_o that_o be_v so_o merciful_o house_v in_o the_o ark_n with_o all_o his_o child_n must_v now_o be_v so_o blessed_v as_o to_o have_v all_o their_o issue_n to_o be_v out_o of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v a_o strange_a change_n in_o god_n and_o a_o strange_a blessing_n on_o noah_n and_o a_o uncomfortable_a stablish_n of_o a_o covenant_n with_o his_o seed_n if_o all_o that_o seed_n must_v be_v so_o thrust_v from_o god_n and_o deal_v with_o as_o the_o seed_n of_o curse_a cain_n moreover_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o noah_n do_v prophetical_o or_o at_o least_o true_o pronounce_v the_o blessing_n on_o shem_n and_o japhet_n and_o in_o shems_n blessing_n he_o bless_v the_o lord_n his_o god_n show_v that_o god_n be_v his_o god_n and_o so_o in_o covenant_n with_o he_o and_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o it_o be_v not_o only_o the_o person_n but_o the_o posterity_n of_o his_o three_o son_n that_o noah_n here_o intend_v it_o be_v not_o cham_n himself_o so_o much_o as_o canaan_n and_o his_o 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this_o honour_n moreover_o in_o gen._n 9.27_o in_o japhets_n blessing_n there_o be_v much_o though_o in_o few_o word_n to_o this_o purpose_n intimate_v first_o note_v that_o the_o jewish_a church_n be_v call_v the_o tent_n of_o shem._n from_o whence_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o church_n privilege_n of_o that_o people_n begin_v not_o with_o or_o from_o abraham_n but_o be_v before_o and_o that_o it_o be_v the_o same_o church_n that_o be_v of_o shem_n and_o of_o abraham_n and_o after_o all_o the_o additional_a promise_n to_o abraham_n the_o jewish_a church_n be_v still_o denominate_v the_o tent_n of_o shem_n now_o they_o be_v the_o tent_n of_o shem_n before_o abraham_n day_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o it_o be_v the_o same_o church_n must_v be_v suppose_v to_o have_v the_o same_o sort_n of_o member_n or_o material_n and_o therefore_o infant_n must_v be_v member_n before_o abraham_n day_n as_o well_o as_o after_o that_o church_n which_o be_v shems_n tent_n have_v infant_n 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&_o 2.14_o 19_o although_o it_o may_v further_o imply_v the_o graft_n of_o japhet_n child_n into_o the_o stock_n of_o the_o church_n when_o shems_n posterity_n shall_v be_v cut_v off_o etc._n etc._n vid._n ult_n now_o if_o it_o be_v shem_n tent_n even_o the_o same_o church_n that_o japhets_n child_n must_v dwell_v in_o then_o as_o shems_n infant_n be_v church-member_n so_o must_v japhet_n and_o not_o all_o his_o infant_n seed_n be_v cast_v or_o leave_v out_o so_o that_o here_o be_v a_o promise_n of_o infant_n church-membership_a unto_o the_o gentile_n in_o these_o word_n reply_n to_o all_o this_o the_o sum_n of_o mr._n t._n be_v answer_n be_v 1._o a_o denial_n of_o the_o sense_n give_v of_o some_o text_n which_o i_o leave_v to_o the_o reader_n examination_n be_v resolve_v not_o to_o tire_v he_o with_o a_o tedious_a reply_n 2._o he_o grant_v that_o their_o person_n be_v bless_v god_n their_o god_n and_o their_o seed_n in_o the_o church_n as_o if_o god_n open_a covenant_n and_o promise_n 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last_o mention_v and_o the_o follow_a bear_n witness_n gen._n 12.2_o 3._o in_o thou_o shall_v all_o family_n of_o the_o earth_n be_v bless_v and_o gen._n 17.7_o 9_o 10._o and_o i_o will_v establish_v my_o covenant_n between_o i_o and_o thou_o and_o thy_o seed_n after_o thou_o and_o i_o will_v be_v their_o god_n and_o god_n say_v to_o abraham_n thou_o shall_v keep_v my_o covenant_n therefore_o thou_o and_o thy_o seed_n after_o thou_o in_o their_o generation_n this_o be_v my_o covenant_n which_o you_o shall_v keep_v between_o i_o and_o you_o etc._n etc._n to_o vers_fw-la 15._o in_o all_o this_o let_v these_o thing_n be_v note_v 1._o that_o here_o be_v a_o express_a promise_n or_o covenant_n to_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n after_o
including_z their_o infant_n but_o as_o part_v of_o the_o analogy_n as_o if_o he_o have_v say_v as_o we_o now_o be_v all_o baptize_v into_o christ_n these_o thing_n seem_v to_o i_o a_o certain_a notification_n of_o god_n will_v herein_o which_o in_o the_o foresay_a former_a treatise_n i_o have_v fullier_n open_v and_o improve_v and_o shall_v i_o stand_v to_o answer_v all_o the_o word_n that_o mr._n tomb_n have_v say_v against_o it_o i_o shall_v needless_o tire_v the_o reader_n and_o myself_o and_o lose_v that_o time_n which_o i_o can_v spare_v a_o confutation_n of_o mr._n tombes_n reason_n sect._n 52._o by_o which_o he_o pretend_v to_o prove_v that_o infant_n be_v not_o reckon_v to_o the_o visible_a church-christian_a in_o the_o primitive_a time_n nor_o be_v now_o mr._n t._n 1._o i_o argue_v thus_o if_o no_o infant_n be_v part_n of_o the_o visible_a church-christian_a in_o the_o primitive_a time_n than_o whatever_o ordinance_n there_o be_v of_o their_o visible_a membership_n before_o must_v needs_o be_v repeal_v but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a ergo_fw-la the_o consequent_a the_o antecedent_n i_o prove_v thus_o if_o in_o all_o the_o day_n of_o christ_n on_o earth_n and_o the_o apostle_n no_o infant_n be_v a_o part_n or_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n christian_n than_o not_o in_o the_o primitive_a time_n but_o etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o minor_a prove_v 1._o all_o visible_a member_n of_o the_o church-christian_a be_v to_o be_v baptize_v but_o no_o infant_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v therefore_o no_o infant_n be_v visible_a member_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n answ_n 1._o to_o the_o major_a they_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v after_o christ_n baptism_n be_v institute_v mat._n 28.19_o but_o not_o before_o when_o yet_o the_o christian_a church_n be_v existent_a in_o christ_n and_o his_o disciple_n therefore_o christ_n be_v not_o baptize_v in_o his_o infancy_n 2._o to_o the_o minor_a if_o his_o bare_a affirmation_n will_v prove_v that_o infant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v what_o need_v he_o write_v his_o book_n mr._n t._n 2._o they_o be_v not_o visible_a member_n of_o the_o church-christian_a who_o be_v not_o of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o no_o infant_n be_v of_o the_o visible_a body_n of_o christ_n prove_v from_o 1_o cor._n 12.13_o all_o that_o be_v of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v make_v to_o drink_v into_o one_o spirit_n in_o the_o cup_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o no_o infant_n be_v make_v to_o drink_v into_o one_o spirit_n for_o none_o of_o they_o do_v drink_v that_o cup_n etc._n etc._n answ_n deny_v the_o minor_a i_o answer_v to_o the_o proof_n 1._o to_o the_o major_a 1._o mr._n t._n elsewhere_o plead_v that_o 1_o cor._n 12._o speak_v of_o the_o church-invisible_a only_o and_o yet_o now_o he_o make_v it_o to_o be_v the_o visible_a 2_o all_n be_v oft_o put_v for_o the_o generality_n and_o not_o a_o proper_a universality_n and_o it_o seem_v hard_a to_o prove_v that_o every_o visible_a member_n have_v the_o spirit_n which_o be_v express_o there_o say_v of_o all_o the_o member_n though_o whether_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v include_v mr._n t._n elsewhere_o make_v disputable_a but_o i_o grant_v that_o it_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o church_n as_o visible_a and_o that_o all_o the_o member_n ordinary_o have_v spiritus_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la be_v in_o judgement_n of_o charity_n say_v to_o have_v the_o spirit_n 3._o but_o if_o sacrament_n be_v indeed_o here_o include_v as_o he_o assert_v than_o baptism_n be_v first_o include_v and_o so_o if_o we_o prove_v infant_n church-member_n this_o text_n will_v prove_v they_o to_o be_v baptizable_a according_a to_o mr._n t._n remember_v that_o 4._o but_o that_o mr._n t.'s_n exposition_n be_v not_o true_a that_o every_o member_n drink_v of_o the_o cup_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n he_o may_v be_v turn_v about_o to_o confess_v himself_o for_o 1._o doubtless_o he_o think_v that_o this_o chapter_n speak_v of_o the_o church_n not_o only_o as_o visible_a if_o at_o all_o but_o as_o invisible_a also_o and_o he_o oft_o say_v that_o many_o real_a member_n of_o christ_n body_n have_v not_o the_o sacrament_n 2._o by_o this_o his_o exposition_n his_o adult_n baptise_v shall_v not_o make_v or_o prove_v any_o to_o be_v visible_a church-member_n till_o they_o drink_v of_o the_o cup_n though_o it_o be_v a_o year_n or_o many_o year_n 3._o and_o no_o one_o that_o live_v without_o the_o lord_n supper_n through_o scruple_n about_o church-order_n or_o their_o own_o fitness_n which_o be_v the_o case_n of_o multitude_n shall_v be_v visible_a member_n nor_o those_o that_o live_v where_o they_o can_v have_v the_o sacrament_n nor_o any_o layman_n in_o all_o the_o popish_a church_n where_o the_o cup_n be_v deny_v the_o laity_n 2._o to_o the_o minor_a infant_n may_v be_v baptize_v into_o one_o spirit_n by_o the_o initiate_a sacrament_n in_o order_n to_o the_o rest_n to_o be_v partake_v of_o in_o due_a time_n and_o as_o not_o every_o church-suspension_a so_o natural-suspension_a of_o further_a privilege_n nullifi_v not_o membership_n mr._n t._n 2._o from_o 1_o cor._n 10.17_o all_o that_o be_v one_o body_n and_o one_o bread_n do_v partake_v of_o that_o one_o bread_n which_o be_v break_v but_o no_o infant_n do_v partake_v answ_n 1._o christ_n and_o his_o disciple_n do_v not_o partake_v of_o it_o before_o the_o institution_n 2._o no_o baptize_v person_n partake_v of_o it_o in_o the_o interspace_n between_o the_o two_o sacrament_n which_o with_o some_o be_v a_o long_a time_n 3._o a_o baptize_v person_n may_v die_v before_o he_o drink_v that_o cup_n or_o may_v live_v where_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_o to_o be_v have_v 4._o church-member_n may_v be_v suspend_v from_o the_o lord_n table_n therefore_o the_o text_n speak_v not_o of_o every_o member_n but_o of_o the_o ordinary_a communion_n of_o capable_a person_n mr._n t._n eph._n 4.5_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v one_o body_n and_o have_v one_o lord_n and_o one_o faith_n but_o no_o infant_n have_v one_o faith_n answ_n 1._o it_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o generality_n of_o the_o noble_a and_o capable_a member_n denominate_v the_o church_n the_o apostle_n say_v not_o that_o every_o member_n have_v all_o these_o but_o there_o be_v one_o lord_n one_o faith_n etc._n etc._n christ_n have_v not_o one_o lord_n be_v lord_n himself_o as_o here_o understand_v and_o yet_o be_v a_o member_n christ_n in_o the_o womb_n can_v be_v prove_v to_o have_v actual_o h●d_v that_o one_o faith_n and_o he_o be_v long_o the_o chief_a member_n before_o he_o be_v baptize_v and_o whether_o ever_o the_o twelve_o apostle_n be_v be_v uncertain_a 2._o the_o text_n seem_v chief_o to_o speak_v of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n call_v objective_a faith_n one_o creed_n and_o this_o the_o church_n may_v have_v and_o yet_o not_o each_o member_n actual_o believe_v for_o 3._o the_o parent_n in_o faith_n devote_v himself_o and_o his_o infant_n to_o god_n his_o faith_n and_o consent_n be_v reputative_o the_o child_n who_o be_v use_v as_o a_o member_n of_o the_o parent_n mr._n t._n 3._o they_o be_v no_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n who_o be_v leave_v out_o of_o the_o number_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n all_o the_o believer_n the_o multitude_n of_o the_o disciple_n etc._n etc._n but_o infant_n be_v leave_v out_o of_o the_o number_n in_o all_o place_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n ergo_fw-la answ_n 1._o many_o text_n speak_v of_o all_o that_o be_v present_a only_o and_o many_o speak_v only_o of_o such_o as_o the_o present_a matter_n do_v concern_v and_o it_o be_v most_o usual_a to_o denominate_v all_o or_o the_o body_n from_o the_o noble_a and_o great_a part_n if_o you_o be_v to_o describe_v a_o kingdom_n will_v you_o not_o say_v that_o it_o be_v a_o civil_a society_n of_o rational_a creature_n or_o man_n consent_v to_o the_o mutual_a relation_n of_o king_n and_o subject_n and_o the_o duty_n of_o each_o for_o the_o common_a welfare_n you_o will_v so_o define_v it_o as_o that_o reason_n consent_v and_o intention_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o definition_n infant_n have_v none_o of_o these_o in_o act_n and_o yet_o who_o doubt_v but_o infant_n be_v member_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o every_o kingdom_n under_o heaven_n that_o i_o have_v read_v of_o so_o you_o know_v that_o we_o take_v infant_n to_o be_v member_n of_o our_o church_n now_o and_o yet_o be_v it_o not_o usual_a with_o we_o to_o say_v that_o all_o the_o church_n meet_v to_o hear_v or_o to_o do_v this_o or_o that_o when_o yet_o the_o infant_n and_o many_o other_o may_v be_v absent_a the_o text_n mr._n t._n allege_v be_v act_v 1.15_o the_o number_n of_o the_o name_n together_o be_v about_o 120._o answ_n though_o i_o take_v not_o the_o church_n then_o to_o be_v so_o numerous_a as_o
not_o receive_v they_o though_o we_o approve_v not_o of_o their_o way_n §_o 30._o and_o be_v it_o in_o my_o power_n as_o a_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n i_o will_v give_v satisfaction_n by_o such_o a_o answerable_a profession_n as_o this_o though_o it_o be_v our_o judgement_n that_o infant_n have_v ever_o be_v member_n of_o god_n visible_a church_n since_o he_o have_v a_o church_n and_o there_o be_v infant_n in_o the_o world_n and_o do_v believe_v that_o christ_n have_v signify_v in_o the_o gospel_n that_o it_o be_v his_o gracious_a will_n that_o they_o shall_v still_o be_v so_o and_o that_o he_o that_o command_v mat._n 28.19_o go_v you_o and_o disciple_n all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o will_v have_v his_o minister_n endeavour_v according_o to_o do_v it_o and_o have_v hereby_o make_v baptism_n the_o regular_a orderly_a way_n of_o solemn_a entrance_n into_o a_o visible_a church_n state_n and_o therefore_o we_o devote_v this_o child_n to_o god_n in_o the_o baptismal_a covenant_n yet_o we_o do_v also_o hold_v that_o when_o he_o come_v to_o age_n it_o will_v be_v his_o duty_n as_o serious_o and_o devout_o to_o make_v this_o covenant_n with_o god_n understand_o himself_n and_o to_o dedicate_v himself_o to_o god_n the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n as_o those_o must_v do_v that_o never_o be_v baptise_a in_o infancy_n and_o we_o promise_v to_o endeavour_v faithful_o as_o we_o have_v opportunity_n to_o instruct_v and_o persuade_v he_o so_o to_o do_v hope_v that_o this_o his_o early_a baptismal_a dedication_n and_o obligation_n to_o god_n will_v rather_o much_o prepare_v he_o for_o it_o than_o hinder_v it_o §_o 31._o i_o think_v these_o profession_n shall_v put_v off_o the_o chief_a matter_n of_o offence_n and_o exception_n against_o each_o other_o as_o to_o the_o ill_a consequent_n of_o our_o opinion_n and_o if_o sober_a good_a man_n will_v by_o such_o a_o mutual_a approach_n be_v the_o more_o dispose_v to_o live_v together_o in_o love_n and_o holy_a peace_n how_o easy_o shall_v i_o bear_v the_o scorn_n of_o those_o formalist_n that_o will_v reproach_v i_o for_o so_o much_o as_o motion_v a_o peace_n with_o the_o anabaptist_n even_o in_o the_o same_o communion_n who_o by_o make_v it_o a_o reproach_n will_v but_o persuade_v i_o that_o such_o as_o they_o be_v less_o worthy_a of_o christian_a communion_n than_o sober_a pious_a and_o peaceable_a anabaptist_n §_o 32._o and_o if_o with_o the_o partial_a sort_n of_o themselves_o such_o motion_n of_o peace_n be_v turn_v into_o matter_n of_o contempt_n and_o they_o proceed_v in_o their_o clamour_n and_o revile_v of_o i_o as_o a_o enemy_n of_o the_o truth_n for_o be_v against_o their_o way_n i_o shall_v account_v it_o no_o wonder_n nor_o matter_n of_o much_o provocation_n find_v in_o all_o sect_n as_o well_o as_o they_o that_o the_o injudicious_a sort_n be_v apt_a to_o be_v abusive_o censorious_a and_o the_o more_o man_n pride_n ignorance_n and_o uncharitableness_n remain_v the_o more_o they_o will_v 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