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B04263 A second part of Observations, censures, and confutations of divers errours in Mr. Hobbs his Leviathan beginning at the seventeenth chapter of that book. / By William Lucy, Bishop of S. David's.; Observations, censures, and confutations of notorious errours in Mr. Hobbes his Leviathan. Part 2 Lucy, William, 1594-1677. 1673 (1673) Wing L3454A; ESTC R220049 191,568 301

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he_o know_v they_o have_v answer_v that_o that_o can_v serve_v they_o as_o long_o as_o there_o be_v power_n in_o the_o offend_a party_n to_o make_v his_o revenge_n and_o justify_v his_o proceed_n against_o they_o and_o unless_o they_o take_v away_o that_o there_o be_v no_o security_n for_o they_o these_o thing_n i_o think_v to_o have_v pass_v by_o but_o be_v so_o abominable_a it_o be_v necessary_a to_o lay_v hold_n upon_o they_o at_o the_o least_o with_o this_o animadversion_n and_o now_o i_o pass_v over_o twenty_o more_o and_o leap_v to_o his_o 26._o chap._n 148._o chap._n xxii_o sect_n i._o mr._n hobbs_n his_o endeavour_n to_o render_v the_o christian_a religion_n suspect_v of_o the_o assurance_n we_o have_v of_o revelation_n the_o difference_n of_o assurance_n from_o the_o object_n from_o the_o act_n assurance_n from_o science_n from_o opinion_n from_o faith_n the_o assurance_n of_o faith_n great_a than_o that_o of_o science_n the_o assurance_n we_o have_v of_o the_o truth_n of_o 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positive_a be_v institute_v in_o time_n and_o to_o particular_a person_n or_o nation_n and_o declare_v for_o such_o by_o those_o who_o god_n have_v authorise_v to_o declare_v they_o but_o say_v he_o this_o authority_n of_o man_n to_o declare_v what_o be_v these_o positive_a law_n of_o god_n how_o can_v it_o be_v know_v god_n may_v command_v a_o man_n by_o a_o supernatural_a way_n to_o deliver_v law_n to_o other_o man_n but_o because_o it_o be_v of_o the_o essence_n of_o law_n that_o he_o who_o be_v to_o be_v oblige_v be_v assure_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o he_o that_o declare_v it_o which_o we_o can_v natural_o take_v notice_n to_o be_v from_o god_n i_o transcribe_v all_o this_o because_o the_o reader_n by_o it_o shall_v understand_v from_o what_o ground_n he_o raise_v two_o question_n which_o he_o answer_v unchristian_o will_v require_v a_o better_a satisfaction_n from_o my_o pen._n the_o question_n be_v these_o how_o can_v a_o man_n without_o supernatural_a revelation_n be_v 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