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A39298 An answer to George Keith's Narrative of his proceedings at Turners-Hall, on the 11th of the month called June, 1696 wherein his charges against divers of the people called Quakers (both in that, and in another book of his, called, Gross error & hypocrosie detected) are fairly considered, examined, and refuted / by Thomas Ellwood. Ellwood, Thomas, 1639-1713. 1696 (1696) Wing E613; ESTC R8140 164,277 235

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180._o he_o use_v say_v g._n keith_n the_o great_a oath_n that_o ever_o be_v use_v among_o the_o jew_n the_o instance_n he_o give_v be_v in_o these_o word_n direct_v to_o t._n hicks_n o_o that_o these_o heavy_a thing_n may_v not_o be_v lay_v to_o thy_o charge_n for_o so_o sure_a as_o god_n live_v there_o be_v his_o catch_n great_a will_n be_v the_o wrath_n that_o shall_v follow_v yea_o god_n will_v visit_v for_o these_o unrighteous_a deal_n and_o i_o testify_v to_o thou_o from_o god_n live_a spirit_n if_o thou_o desist_v not_o and_o come_v not_o to_o deep_a repentance_n the_o lord_n will_v make_v thou_o a_o example_n of_o his_o fury_n and_o thy_o head_n shall_v not_o go_v down_o to_o the_o grave_a in_o peace_n etc._n etc._n this_o i_o take_v to_o be_v a_o mere_a cavil_v and_o a_o very_a weak_a one_o too_o for_o first_o that_o form_n of_o speech_n as_o the_o lord_n live_v though_o it_o be_v sometimes_o use_v among_o the_o jew_n of_o old_a as_o a_o oath_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o always_o 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be_v concern_v the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n from_o those_o word_n of_o christ_n mat._n 18.17_o go_v tell_v the_o church_n this_o place_n in_o both_o those_o book_n w._n penn_n expound_v of_o private_a offence_n or_o personal_a injury_n between_o brethren_n which_o have_v no_o show_n of_o contradiction_n in_o it_o it_o be_v true_a that_o in_o the_o former_a he_o infer_v from_o those_o word_n of_o christ_n that_o christ_n give_v his_o church_n power_n both_o to_o try_v and_o reject_v spirit_n in_o the_o other_o he_o deny_v that_o those_o word_n of_o christ_n do_v empower_v the_o church_n to_o define_v and_o impose_v upon_o all_o people_n under_o temporal_a and_o eternal_a punishment_n article_n of_o