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A92925 Schism dispach't or A rejoynder to the replies of Dr. Hammond and the Ld of Derry. Sergeant, John, 1622-1707. 1657 (1657) Wing S2590; Thomason E1555_1; ESTC R203538 464,677 720

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h._n yet_o in_o return_n he_o offer_v not_o one_o word_n to_o clear_v himself_o reply_v c._n 4._o sect_n 7._o the_o place_n whither_o answ_n p._n 48._o l._n 31._o 32._o he_o refer_v i_o for_o answer_v to_o this_o point_n nor_o to_o show_v we_o that_o that_o writer_n tell_v we_o what_o he_o so_o large_o promise_v we_o of_o schism_n p._n 75._o only_a in_o his_o answer_n p._n 48._o he_o assure_v we_o that_o in_o his_o reply_n the_o whole_a matter_n of_o euodius_n &_o ignatius_n be_v further_o clear_v as_o if_o he_o have_v clear_v it_o already_o and_o s._n we_o be_v elaborate_a misunderstanding_n forestall_v he_o shall_v have_v say_v misreading_n for_o it_o be_v my_o eye_n &_o not_o my_o understanding_n which_o fail_v i_o if_o he_o have_v not_o add_v to_o this_o testimony_n all_o which_o make_v for_o his_o purpose_n four_o observation_n i_o shall_v recomend_v the_o reader_n to_o let_v he_o see_v that_o this_o insincerity_n in_o dr._n h._n be_v affect_v &_o voluntary_a first_o the_o word_n 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v leave_v unreply_v upon_o in_o this_o his_o answer_n to_o schism_n disarm_v in_o which_o treatise_n p._n 66._o i_o object_v all_o these_o weakness_n in_o this_o one_o point_n first_o that_o be_v it_o grant_v that_o two_o sit_v together_o it_o will_v not_o serve_v his_o turn_n a_o iott_n the_o more_o for_o what_o will_v he_o infer_v hence_o that_o s._n peter_n &_o s._n paul_n be_v distinct_a bishop_n there_o also_o grant_v this_o too_o what_o follow_v hence_o against_o the_o pope_n authory_n i_o know_v his_o intent_n be_v to_o conclude_v hereupon_o that_o therefore_o s._n peter_n &_o s._n paul_n have_v exclusive_a jurisdiction_n at_o antioch_n therefore_o s._n peter_n jurisdiction_n be_v limit_v therefore_o the_o pope_n have_v not_o a_o illimitted_a one_o but_o how_o do_v the_o one_o
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