congregation_n let_v we_o see_v what_o his_o own_o witness_n say_v d._n whitaker_n that_o be_v next_o allege_v by_o he_o do_v by_o many_o argument_n show_v the_o profit_n and_o necessity_n of_o synod_n and_o to_o this_o end_n he_o cit_v many_o 56._o many_o deconc_fw-fr qu._n 1._o c._n 3._o p._n 15.16_o &_o q._n 2._o c._n 3._o p._n 55_o 56._o place_n of_o scripture_n both_o from_o the_o old_a &_o new_a testament_n he_o allege_v at_o large_a etc._n large_a p._n 17._o etc._n etc._n 7_o or_o 8_o cause_n for_o which_o they_o be_v profitable_a and_o of_o great_a use_n and_o fruit_n he_o speak_v also_o of_o such_o synod_n as_o be_v not_o only_o for_o discuss_v and_o conclude_v of_o matter_n by_o way_n of_o counsel_n and_o advise_v but_o of_o those_o that_o have_v power_n to_o 21._o to_o p._n 21._o judge_v and_o condemn_v obstinate_a offender_n by_o a_o public_a judgement_n and_o as_o occasion_n require_v to_o anathematise_v or_o exclude_v from_o the_o fellowship_n of_o the_o church_n he_o 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c._n 4._o concl_n 3._o etc._n etc._n where_o he_o evident_o declare_v his_o mind_n that_o synod_n have_v power_n to_o exercise_v ecclesiastical_a authority_n and_o to_o proceed_v judicial_o with_o delinquent_n even_o to_o depose_v &_o excommunicate_v though_o it_o be_v the_o pope_n himself_o upon_o due_a conviction_n and_o to_o this_o end_n he_o allege_v the_o confession_n of_o many_o popish_a writer_n and_o far_o more_o true_o and_o upright_o then_o mr_n can_n have_v do_v in_o this_o controversy_n as_o for_o d._n willet_n if_o he_o speak_v but_o to_o the_o same_o effect_n with_o bell_n as_o they_o say_v than_o the_o same_o answer_n may_v serve_v but_o for_o the_o place_n allege_v synop_n count_v 4._o qu._n 4._o p._n 2._o i_o find_v no_o such_o matter_n there_o they_o allege_v p._n 2._o when_o as_o there_o be_v no_o second_o part_n of_o that_o question_n but_o in_o the_o same_o book_n he_o give_v plain_a evidence_n against_o they_o he_o acknowledge_v synod_n to_o be_v 105._o be_v synop_n papi_n cont_n 3._o qu._n 1_o p._n 105._o a_o wholesome_a mean_n for_o the_o repress_v and_o reform_v both_o of_o error_n in_o religion_n and_o corruption_n in_o manner_n he_o allege_v the_o consent_n of_o antiquity_n to_o prove_v that_o our_o opinion_n be_v ground_v upon_o truth_n and_o scripture_n namely_o that_o those_o which_o be_v lawful_o call_v unto_o synod_n 109.110_o synod_n qu._n 3._o p._n 109.110_o have_v determine_v voice_n and_o power_n to_o give_v sentence_n and_o give_v instance_n in_o the_o council_n of_o antioch_n where_o paulus_n samosatenus_fw-la be_v condemn_v and_o cut_v off_o as_o a_o enemy_n to_o the_o truth_n etc._n etc._n he_o avouch_v that_o 123._o that_o qu._n 7._o p._n 123._o they_o have_v authority_n to_o judge_v examine_v suspend_v punish_v and_o depose_v etc._n etc._n and_o thus_o d._n willet_n full_o accord_v with_o we_o in_o this_o point_n that_o there_o be_v a_o superior_a power_n to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o particular_a congregation_n d._n tailor_n next_o allege_v afford_v they_o no_o help_n whereas_o he_o say_v that_o 712._o that_o com._n on_o tit._n 3.10_o p._n 712._o excommunication_n be_v the_o common_a action_n of_o the_o church_n and_o not_o of_o any_o private_a person_n or_o person_n we_o also_o affirm_v the_o same_o thing_n our_o profession_n and_o practice_v always_o have_v be_v never_o to_o excommunicate_v any_o without_o common_a consent_n of_o our_o church_n but_o have_v we_o do_v unjust_o at_o any_o time_n therein_o we_o may_v just_o have_v be_v subject_a to_o the_o censure_n of_o a_o synod_n or_o classis_fw-la and_o yet_o then_o also_o the_o minister_n and_o deputy_n assemble_v in_o the_o name_n of_o many_o church_n can_v with_o no_o reason_n be_v account_v private_a person_n and_o though_o we_o think_v ourselves_o bind_v to_o ask_v counsel_n of_o the_o classis_fw-la according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o these_o church_n before_o we_o proceed_v to_o cut_v off_o any_o member_n of_o the_o church_n by_o 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we_o for_o the_o same_o purpose_n he_o cite_v also_o the_o protestation_n of_o the_o king_n supremacic_n d._n fulke_o and_o our_o countryman_n in_o new-england_n for_o answer_v hereunto_o first_o concern_v some_o of_o these_o that_o seem_v to_o be_v of_o mr_n cannes_n mind_n in_o deny_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n observe_v how_o idle_o and_o superfluous_o he_o allege_v they_o against_o i_o when_o as_o he_o know_v that_o i_o myself_o do_v acknowledge_v and_o note_v so_o much_o before_o as_o namely_o the_o judgement_n of_o 74._o of_o answ_n to_o w._n b._n p._n 74._o mr_n hooker_n 27_o hooker_n ib._n p._n 27_o d._n ames_n and_o the_o author_n of_o the_o book_n entitle_v english_a puritanisme_n by_o who_o also_o the_o protestation_n of_o k._n supremacy_n be_v say_v to_o be_v write_v these_o i_o have_v confess_v to_o be_v opposite_a unto_o i_o in_o this_o
there_o be_v no_o consequence_n to_o justify_v prelacy_n hence_o for_o 1._o papist_n pretend_v the_o same_o thing_n albeit_o unjust_o in_o the_o behalf_n of_o their_o romish_a bishop_n &_o hierarchy_n ii_o the_o name_n of_o bishop_n or_o presbyter_n be_v oftentimes_o indifferent_o by_o the_o father_n attribute_v to_o those_o great_a light_n and_o martyr_n as_o be_v evident_a in_o their_o book_n &_o sufficient_o clear_v by_o orthodox_n writer_n against_o the_o papist_n iii_o such_o bishop_n as_o hadia_fw-la superiority_n in_o those_o time_n titus_n time_n jerom._n gomment_n on_o epist_n to_z titus_n receive_v it_o from_o the_o church_n in_o humane_a policy_n not_o by_o divine_a institution_n v._o remonst_z asscribe_v to_o prelate_n the_o redemption_n of_o the_o purity_n of_o the_o gospel_n now_o profess_v in_o england_n from_o romish_a corruption_n animadvers_fw-la this_o assertion_n seem_v to_o want_v the_o truth_n of_o story_n for_o 1._o in_o the_o book_n of_o martyr_n allege_v by_o the_o remonstr_n the_o reformation_n of_o religion_n be_v refer_v to_o king_n edward_n himself_o &_o his_o counsel_n &_o parliament_n ii_o king_n edward_n approve_v himself_o better_a than_o the_o best_a of_o the_o prelate_n in_o withstand_v toleration_n of_o mass_n to_o his_o sister_n at_o the_o request_n of_o the_o emperor_n iii_o archb._n cranmer_n acknowledge_v to_o m._n cheke_n that_o king_n edward_n have_v more_o divinity_n in_o his_o little_a finger_n than_o all_o they_o have_v in_o all_o their_o body_n let_v the_o remonst_z therefore_o henceforth_o take_v heed_n of_o detract_n from_o king_n unjust_o to_o extol_v the_o bishop_n unjust_o vi_o remonst_z observe_v that_o divers_a of_o the_o prelate_n have_v be_v great_a assertor_n of_o our_o religion_n against_o the_o common_a enemy_n of_o rome_n animadv_n i._o divers_n of_o the_o prelate_n have_v be_v too_o great_a friend_n to_o rome_n as_o it_o be_v famous_o know_v both_o heretofore_o &_o of_o late_a also_o ii_o the_o prelate_n general_o have_v more_o vehement_o prosecute_v the_o faithful_a minister_n refuse_v conformity_n to_o some_o popish_a ceremony_n albeit_o of_o the_o same_o religion_n profess_v and_o establish_v in_o england_n they_o the_o superstitious_a &_o idolatrous_a papist_n the_o grand_a enemy_n of_o the_o reform_a religion_n ii_o the_o prelate_n general_o do_v make_v use_n of_o divers_a argument_n use_v by_o romanist_n against_o protestant_n for_o their_o hierarchicall_a discipline_n &_o ceremony_n iv_o the_o great_a assertor_n of_o the_o reform_a religion_n among_o the_o prelate_n make_v use_v against_o the_o papist_n of_o the_o nonconformist_n argument_n against_o prelacy_n &_o superstition_n v._o nonconformist_n &_o minister_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n where_o presbytery_n be_v establish_v have_v approve_v themselves_o oppugner_n of_o antichrist_n to_o purpose_n vii_o remonst_z urge_v a_o continuance_n of_o prelacy_n since_o it_o be_v establish_v by_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n animadv_n i._o it_o sometime_o fall_v out_o that_o 33._o that_o 1._o king_n 12.28_o 29_o 30_o 31_o 32_o 33._o unjust_a law_n be_v enact_v &_o 6.16_o &_o 1._o king_n 16.26_o mic._n 6.16_o continue_v in_o a_o land_n profess_v religion_n touch_v both_o the_o ministry_n &_o ceremony_n ii_o parliament_n do_v aswell_o serve_v to_o repeal_v as_o to_o enact_v law_n as_o just_a cause_n &_o occasion_n shall_v require_v and_o according_o english_z parliament_n have_v be_v wont_a to_o proceed_v viii_o remonst_z affirm_v that_o in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o prelate_n general_o teach_v nothing_o be_v find_v dissonant_n from_o god_n word_n animadv_n i._o the_o prelate_n general_o have_v teach_v very_o seldom_o so_o that_o it_o can_v much_o be_v take_v notice_n what_o manner_n of_o doctrine_n they_o teach_v queen_n eliz._n be_v report_v to_o say_v that_o when_o she_o make_v a_o bishop_n she_o mar_v a_o preacher_n two_o 11.13_o two_o 2._o cor._n 11.13_o deceitful_a worker_n do_v sometime_o 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to_o the_o begin_v glorious_a reformation_n yet_o not_o any_o just_a ground_n of_o prejudice_n against_o it_o x._o remonstr_n conceit_v that_o the_o 26_o prelate_n be_v easy_o responsal_n to_o parliament_n for_o any_o of_o their_o deviation_n from_o the_o rule_n of_o law_n animadv_n 1._o deviation_n that_o be_v 23.15_o be_v 2._o king_n 23.15_o whole_o devious_a be_v not_o at_o all_o responsal_n either_o to_o god_n or_o rational_a man_n such_o a_o deviation_n be_v prelacy_n consider_v as_o prelacy_n in_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o hall_n the_o d._n bilson_n d._n downham_n d._n hall_n rigid_a patron_n of_o it_o ii_o prelate_n have_v not_o be_v easy_o responsal_n to_o parliament_n at_o any_o time_n for_o their_o deviation_n in_o prelacy_n till_o this_o present_a parliament_n iii_o there_o be_v more_o than_o 26_o ordinary_n that_o dispense_v the_o civil_a &_o canon_n law_n viz._n suffragans_n chancellor_n commissary_n archdeacon_n official_o surrogate_v rural_a dean_n subdeane_n etc._n 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the_o same_o use_n from_o the_o same_o ground_n of_o holy_a scripture_n iii_o what_o reason_n have_v he_o in_o describe_v the_o use_n of_o class_n to_o mention_v this_o only_a that_o they_o be_v for_o the_o help_n of_o pastor_n see_v both_o they_o &_o those_o judicatories_n deut._n 17.2_o chron._n 19_o be_v for_o the_o help_n &_o benefit_n of_o every_o member_n of_o the_o synagogue_n then_o and_o the_o church_n now_o as_o well_o as_o for_o the_o help_n of_o pastor_n iu._n what_o reason_n have_v he_o also_o in_o speak_v of_o pastor_n now_o to_o add_v these_o word_n which_o have_v the_o assistance_n of_o their_o eldership_n see_v in_o the_o synagogue_n ancient_o their_o pastor_n &_o teacher_n have_v the_o assistance_n of_o a_o eldership_n and_o ruler_n of_o the_o synagogue_n as_o well_o as_o now_o i._o dav_n it_o be_v to_o be_v prove_v ii_o that_o the_o cause_n in_o question_n which_o
and_o approbation_n he_o say_v it_o follow_v hence_o that_o no_o one_o church_n be_v superior_a unto_o other_o but_o all_o be_v equal_a among_o themselves_o this_o he_o declare_v by_o instance_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o though_o in_o ancient_a time_n it_o be_v of_o great_a estimation_n and_o dignity_n yet_o have_v it_o no_o special_a authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n above_o other_o church_n as_o he_o show_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o d._n rain_n whitak_n and_o junius_n but_o he_o do_v not_o collect_v thence_o that_o many_o church_n concur_v together_o in_o synod_n do_v want_v authority_n to_o judge_v and_o to_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n in_o the_o cause_v bring_v unto_o they_o yea_o the_o contrary_n be_v manifest_a for_o whereas_o bellarmine_n pervert_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o magdeburgenses_n who_o have_v say_v that_o the_o unity_n of_o faith_n may_v be_v preserve_v by_o the_o consociation_n of_o church_n which_o mutual_o be_v to_o help_v one_o another_o object_v 9_o object_v derom_n pon._n l._n 1._o c._n 9_o non_fw-la sit_v est_fw-la confilium_fw-la imperium_fw-la requiritur_fw-la counsel_n be_v not_o sufficient_a but_o authority_n be_v require_v mr_n parker_n in_o this_o 327._o this_o p._n 327._o same_o chapter_n allege_v allow_v and_o commend_v the_o answer_n which_o d._n whitaker_n 49_o whitaker_n derom_n pont._n cont._n 4._o cue_n 1._o p._n 49_o give_v unto_o bellarmine_n viz._n consensum_fw-la multorum_fw-la non_fw-la minus_fw-la habere_fw-la imperii_fw-la quam_fw-la unius_fw-la voluntatem_fw-la sicolim_n haeretici_fw-la per_fw-la synodos_fw-la refutati_fw-la et_fw-la alii_fw-la in_o eorum_fw-la locum_fw-la suffecti_fw-la quid_fw-la amplius_fw-la postulas_fw-la aut_fw-la quae_fw-la melior_fw-la ratio_fw-la excogitari_fw-la potest_fw-la conservandae_fw-la pacis_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v the_o consent_n of_o many_o have_v no_o less_o authority_n than_o the_o will_n of_o one_o thus_o have_v heretic_n be_v refute_v of_o old_a time_n and_o other_o put_v into_o their_o place_n what_o do_v you_o require_v more_o or_o what_o better_a way_n of_o preserve_a peace_n can_v be_v think_v upon_o etc._n etc._n or_o what_o plain_a testimony_n can_v mr_n dau._n require_v for_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o synod_n they_o do_v not_o answer_v bellarmine_n that_o counsel_n alone_o be_v sufficient_a but_o plead_v for_o authority_n and_o power_n arise_v from_o the_o consent_n of_o many_o junius_n also_o answer_v this_o objection_n of_o bellarmine_n in_o like_a manner_n and_o say_v concern_v the_o power_n of_o synod_n 74._o synod_n anim._n adv_o in_o bellarm_n contr_n 3._o l._n 1._o c._n 9_o u._n 74._o et_fw-la est_fw-la revera_fw-la imperium_fw-la christi_fw-la qui_fw-la primum_fw-la jubet_fw-la per_fw-la apostolum_n ut_fw-la spiritus_fw-la prophetarum_fw-la prophetis_fw-la subjiciantur_fw-la deinde_fw-la vero_fw-la remedium_fw-la adhibet_fw-la 1._o cor._n 11.16_o quod_fw-la si_fw-la cvi_fw-la contentiosum_fw-la esse_fw-la 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first_o come_v to_o speak_v of_o the_o kind_n of_o conjunction_n or_o consociation_n and_o show_v 336._o show_v poli._n eccl_n l._n 3._o c._n 22._o p._n 336._o that_o some_o be_v more_o imperfect_a by_o way_n of_o communication_n &_o some_o more_o perfect_a by_o way_n of_o combination_n the_o combination_n he_o say_v be_v of_o two_o sort_n for_o some_o communicate_v among_o themselves_o by_o letter_n only_o and_o some_o both_o by_o letter_n &_o messenger_n or_o delegate_n these_o communicatory_a letter_n be_v call_v in_o old_a time_n pacificall_a &_o synodall_n letter_n and_o formatae_fw-la and_o he_o 337._o he_o p._n 337._o allege_v divers_a example_n both_o from_o the_o scripture_n and_o from_o the_o primitive_a church_n touch_v this_o kind_n of_o communication_n by_o letter_n and_o howsoever_o he_o note_v from_o the_o magdeburgenses_n that_o this_o communication_n by_o letter_n do_v not_o proceed_v from_o dominion_n and_o subjection_n etc._n etc._n yet_o this_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v touch_v the_o subjection_n of_o any_o one_o church_n to_o another_o and_o not_o of_o subjection_n to_o many_o church_n for_o so_o he_o expound_v himself_o touch_v this_o particular_a of_o communication_n by_o letter_n as_o he_o have_v often_o do_v before_o in_o general_a for_o whereas_o it_o be_v object_v if_o all_o congregation_n be_v equal_a what_o shall_v be_v do_v in_o case_n of_o schism_n and_o heresy_n when_o there_o be_v no_o synod_n nor_o christian_a magistrate_n he_o answer_v 324._o answer_v ibid._n c._n 21._o p._n 324._o the_o time_n scarce_o fall_v out_o when_o no_o synod_n can_v be_v have_v or_o if_o synod_n be_v want_v yet_o church_n may_v communicate_v together_o by_o letter_n and_o although_o there_o be_v no_o authority_n in_o one_o church_n above_o another_o yet_o many_o church_n join_v together_o either_o in_o a_o synod_n or_o by_o letter_n have_v authority_n over_o one_o church_n offend_v and_o in_o the_o next_o page_n 325._o page_n p._n 325._o again_o 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than_o those_o that_o do_v so_o many_o way_n pervert_v his_o meaning_n he_o be_v not_o only_o a_o member_n of_o the_o same_o church_n but_o a_o member_n of_o the_o same_o family_n &_o live_v under_o the_o same_o roof_n with_o i_o where_o we_o have_v continual_a and_o daily_a occasion_n to_o talk_v of_o these_o thing_n and_o at_o that_o time_n when_o mr_n jacob_n publish_v his_o unsound_a writing_n touch_v this_o question_n he_o be_v afterward_o also_o a_o member_n of_o the_o same_o eldership_n and_o by_o office_n sit_v with_o we_o daily_o to_o heat_n and_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o our_o church_n and_o so_o become_v a_o member_n of_o our_o classical_a combination_n yet_o do_v he_o never_o testify_v against_o the_o unduepower_v of_o the_o classis_fw-la or_o complain_v that_o we_o be_v not_o a_o free_a people_n though_o the_o classis_fw-la exercise_v the_o same_o authority_n then_o as_o now_o it_o do_v yea_o he_o be_v also_o for_o that_o time_n the_o scribe_n of_o our_o consistory_n 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judgement_n belong_v unto_o man_n but_o of_o inquisition_n discretion_n &_o consultation_n and_o that_o therefore_o that_o whole_a distinction_n betwixt_o person_n define_v and_o consult_v be_v vain_a yet_o it_o be_v manifest_a and_o undeniable_a that_o in_o the_o censure_v of_o heretic_n that_o err_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n there_o be_v a_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n belong_v unto_o man_n and_o a_o definitive_a sentence_n to_o be_v pronounce_v against_o such_o the_o matter_n of_o faith_n be_v as_o little_a to_o be_v subject_v or_o submit_v unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n as_o unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o synod_n and_o yet_o heretic_n be_v not_o to_o be_v exempt_v from_o the_o judgement_n and_o censure_n of_o either_o of_o they_o d._n am._n himself_o in_o the_o same_o place_n do_v plain_o acknowledge_v this_o distinction_n betwixt_o consultation_n and_o definitive_a suffrage_n when_o he_o say_v ibiden_v say_v ibiden_v bene_fw-la consulere_fw-la 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the_o censure_n of_o deposition_n and_o excommunication_n etc._n etc._n they_o ordain_v 17._o ordain_v p._n 320-326_a syn._n toru_n 1591._o art_n 2_o 3_o 7.14_o 17._o that_o every_o evangelicall_n minister_n be_v not_o only_o to_o have_v and_o to_o read_v the_o canon_n of_o their_o synod_n but_o also_o to_o carry_v himself_o and_o to_o govern_v the_o church_n commit_v unto_o he_o according_a to_o the_o prescript_n thereof_o and_o that_o under_o pain_n of_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n that_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n be_v to_o be_v administer_v public_o either_o in_o the_o congregation_n or_o in_o the_o synod_n etc._n etc._n moreover_o it_o be_v worthy_a to_o be_v remember_v how_o the_o church_n of_o the_o netherlands_o even_o at_o that_o time_n when_o they_o be_v scatter_v abroad_o in_o high-dutchland_a and_o eastfriestand_n in_o that_o time_n of_o most_o bloody_a persecution_n under_o the_o government_n of_o duke_n d'_fw-fr alva_n do_v then_o in_o their_o banishment_n 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palatinate_n be_v like_a unto_o the_o former_a they_o 98._o they_o ibid._n p._n 98._o allege_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n both_o in_o the_o old_a &_o new_a testament_n for_o confirmation_n thereof_o and_o show_v their_o own_o practice_n to_o have_v be_v such_o that_o some_o author_n of_o novelty_n be_v admonish_v first_o of_o their_o classis_fw-la and_o then_o of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n and_o be_v refractory_a be_v then_o dismiss_v that_o be_v depose_v from_o their_o place_n the_o divine_n of_o hassia_n agree_v with_o the_o former_a and_o upon_o the_o like_a ground_n they_o 100_o they_o ibid._n p._n 100_o show_v the_o practice_n of_o their_o own_o church_n that_o for_o the_o repress_v of_o the_o error_n of_o the_o vbiquitarian_n divers_a nationall_n synod_n have_v be_v hold_v by_o authority_n of_o the_o four_o brethren_n prince_n of_o hassia_n and_o that_o since_o again_o the_o prince_n maurice_n landgrave_n of_o hassia_n have_v call_v another_o general_a synod_n 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be_v a_o superior_a wilful_o vassal_n &_o enslave_v herself_o etc._n etc._n i._o c._n answ._n iii_o i_o do_v deny_v that_o this_o government_n by_o class_n &_o synod_n serve_v better_a for_o the_o church_n welfare_n then_o that_o which_o the_o apostle_n institute_v etc._n etc._n repl._n and_o so_o will_v we_o when_o he_o have_v prove_v that_o independency_n be_v the_o government_n institute_v by_o the_o apostle_n i._o c._n answ._n iu._n if_o it_o shall_v be_v grant_v that_o particular_a congregation_n by_o this_o kind_n of_o government_n shall_v have_v peace_n profit_n credit_n &_o other_o worldly_a respect_n yet_o this_o be_v no_o sufficient_a reason_n etc._n etc._n repl._n the_o defendant_n never_o use_v such_o a_o reason_n this_o be_v a_o skarre-crow_n of_o his_o own_o set_n up_o and_o therefore_o we_o must_v give_v he_o leave_v to_o please_v himself_o in_o that_o fivefold_a shot_n which_o he_o make_v as_o it_o the_o four_o reason_n which_o he_o suppose_v he_o have_v find_v in_o the_o author_n book_n be_v the_o mention_n which_o he_o make_v of_o the_o determination_n of_o nationall_n synod_n concern_v the_o power_n exercise_v by_o the_o classis_fw-la and_o the_o consent_n of_o all_o reform_a church_n hereunto_o he_o answer_v i._o council_n may_v err_v etc._n etc._n ii_o these_o testimony_n be_v all_o human_a etc._n etc._n iii_o this_o reason_n be_v the_o same_o which_o the_o papist_n use_n etc._n etc._n repl._n i._n the_o decree_n of_o synod_n be_v not_o allege_v to_o prove_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o this_o government_n but_o to_o show_v the_o establish_a exercise_n of_o it_o before_o the_o author_n either_o know_v the_o classis_fw-la or_o they_o he_o &_o that_o therefore_o he_o have_v not_o subject_v the_o church_n to_o this_o power_n ii_o though_o council_n may_v err_v yet_o it_o do_v not_o therefore_o follow_v that_o they_o do_v always_o err_v &_o that_o they_o may_v
not_o only_o the_o head_n but_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o brownist_n cause_n &_o rabbin_n fancy_n &_o forgery_n wherein_o i_o profess_v you_o have_v give_v i_o better_a satisfaction_n both_o of_o your_o own_o sufficiency_n for_o polemicall_a employment_n in_o the_o lord_n service_n whereof_o notwithstanding_o i_o ever_o hold_v a_o very_a good_a opinion_n &_o of_o the_o weakness_n &_o vanity_n of_o all_o their_o force_n &_o fortress_n raise_v &_o advance_v against_o either_o god_n church_n or_o god_n word_n than_o hitherto_o i_o ever_o have_v or_o can_v ever_o by_o any_o thing_n that_o i_o have_v hear_v or_o see_v attain_v unto_o which_o if_o i_o may_v not_o speak_v as_o true_o as_o free_o or_o do_v not_o think_v as_o unfeigned_o as_o i_o write_v it_o willing_o i_o shall_v fear_v this_o may_v savour_v of_o some_o spice_n of_o flattery_n which_o i_o have_v &_o i_o know_v you_o neither_o love_n nor_o look_v for_o at_o my_o hand_n the_o substance_n of_o this_o his_o judicious_a &_o unpartial_a approbation_n have_v be_v confirm_v by_o sundry_a other_o in_o like_a manner_n eminent_a for_o learning_n &_o piety_n &_o shall_v doubtless_o be_v further_o verify_v hereafter_o according_a to_o his_o gracious_a dispose_n who_o have_v say_v 112.6_o say_v prov._n 10.7_o psal_n 112.6_o the_o memory_n of_o the_o just_a be_v bless_v and_o the_o righteous_a shall_v be_v in_o everlasting_a remembrance_n the_o content_n of_o the_o first_o part_n touch_v a_o particular_a eldership_n chap._n i._n the_o occasion_n of_o this_o writing_n and_o the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n pag._n 1._o chap._n ii_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o the_o eldership_n in_o judge_v and_o end_v some_o cause_n without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o congregation_n pag._n 2._o chap._n iii_o a_o refutation_n of_o sundry_a error_n whereupon_o mr_n ainsworth_n ground_n their_o popular_a government_n pag._n 7._o chap._n iu._n whether_o the_o people_n be_v bind_v to_o be_v present_a at_o the_o proceed_n against_o offender_n pag._n 19_o the_o second_o part_n touch_v class_n and_o synod_n chap._n i._n the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n and_o the_o importance_n thereof_o pag._n 29._o chap._n ii_o the_o first_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o word_n of_o the_o law_n deut._n 17_o 8-12_a pag._n 34._o chap._n iii_o the_o second_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n math._n 18_o 15-20_a pag._n 42._o chap._n iu._n the_o three_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n pag._n 61._o mr_n dau._n his_o exception_n touch_v act._n 15._o answer_v pag._n 66._o mr_n cannes_n exception_n touch_v act._n 15._o answer_v pag._n 81._o chap._n v._o a_o answer_n to_o the_o allegation_n of_o mr_n davenport_n touch_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n sect_n i._o his_o allegation_n of_o mr_n cartwright_n answer_v pag_n 81._o sect_n ii_o his_o allegation_n of_o mr_n fenner_n examine_v pag_n 84._o sect_n iii_o his_o allegation_n of_o mr_n parker_n examine_v pag._n 88_o sect_n iv_o his_o allegation_n of_o dr_n ames_n examine_v pag._n 106._o sect_n v._o his_o allegation_n of_o mr_n baynes_n examine_v pag._n 111._o sect_n vi_o his_o allegation_n of_o the_o repâ—â—â—_n upon_o dr_n doâ—man_n examine_v pag._n 116._o sect_n vii_o his_o allegation_n of_o dr_n voetius_fw-la examine_v pag._n 118._o sect_n viii_o touch_v the_o english_a church_n at_o francford_n in_o q._n mary_n time_n pag._n 121._o sect_n ix_o mr_n dau._n his_o pretence_n of_o agreement_n with_o junius_n examine_v pag._n 125._o sect_n x._o his_o pretence_n of_o agreement_n with_o dr_n whitaker_n examine_v pag_n 133._o sect_n xi_o his_o allegation_n of_o chamierus_n examine_v pag._n 141._o chap._n vi_o a_o answer_n to_o mr_n cannes_n argument_n pag._n 145._o chap._n vii_o the_o allegation_n of_o mr_n can_v examine_v pag._n 16â—_n sect_n i._o touch_v the_o testimony_n of_o papist_n pag_n 169._o sect_n ii_o the_o testimony_n of_o lutheran_n pag._n 173._o sect_n iii_o the_o testimony_n of_o calvinist_n pag._n 184._o sect_n iv_o the_o testimony_n of_o english_a conformist_n pag._n 196._o sect_n v._o the_o testimony_n of_o english_a nonconformist_n pag._n 200._o sect_n vi_o the_o testimony_n of_o ancient_a father_n counsel_n and_o emperor_n pag._n 213._o sect_n vii_o the_o testimony_n of_o reform_a church_n pag._n 227._o a_o supplement_n for_o answer_v unto_o that_o which_o follow_v in_o mr_n cannes_n book_n touch_v the_o evil_a consequent_n of_o indepudency_n the_o antiquity_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 240._o finis_fw-la