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little_o better_o and_o now_o sir_n have_v in_o this_o paper_n thus_o full_o handle_v the_o argument_n you_o propose_v and_o answer_v all_o the_o objection_n which_o you_o make_v i_o leave_v it_o with_o you_o to_o work_v that_o effect_n on_o you_o which_o god_n shall_v give_v and_o be_o your_o humble_a servant_n h._n prideaux_n january_n 27_o 1687_o 8._o finis_fw-la errata_fw-la the_o author_n be_v a_o hundred_o mile_n distance_n from_o the_o press_n when_o the_o book_n be_v print_v the_o reader_n be_v desire_v to_o excuse_v the_o wrong_n point_v which_o be_v too_o frequent_a and_o these_o follow_a error_n in_o the_o word_n of_o the_o book_n page_n 2._o line_n 17._o for_o never_o defective_a read_v never_o so_o defective_a p._n 3._o l._n 13._o f._n the_o the_o cavil_n r._n that_o cavil_n p._n 5._o l._n 4._o f._n and_o to_o the_o best_a &c._n &c._n r._n and_o to_o the_o best_a with_o a_o full_a point_n before_o and_o and_o none_o after_o remembrance_n p._n 5._o l._n 12._o f._n 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lib._n 8._o c._n 24._o 24._o lib._n 16._o in_o esaiam_n esaiam_n avadhah_n tract_n 2._o cap._n 4._o sect._n 12._o 12._o matt._n 10._o v._n 1._o luk._n 9_o v._n 1._o 6._o 6._o john_n 11._o v_o 51._o 51._o dominicus_n soto_n silvester_n de_fw-fr valentia_n aliique_fw-la aliique_fw-la gygas_fw-la cum_fw-la dd_n ab_fw-la eo_fw-la citat_fw-la q._n 8._o the_o per_n n._n 3._o maimonides_n in_o tract_n sanedrim_n cap._n 4._o 4._o lib._n 3._o exercit._fw-la 7._o cap._n 2._o 2._o page_n 224._o 224._o de_fw-fr sacr._n ord._n d._n 6._o g._n 52._o 52._o distinct_a 24._o part._n 2._o art._n 1._o quest._n 4._o 4._o lect._n 5._o de_fw-fr sacramento_n ordinis_fw-la ordinis_fw-la in_o tertiam_fw-la thomae_fw-la disput_n 239._o cap._n 2._o 2._o de_fw-fr sacramentis_fw-la cap._n 26._o quaest_n 4._o 4._o de_fw-fr sacris_fw-la electionibus_fw-la &_o ordinationibus_fw-la pag._n 443._o 443._o vasquez_n in_o tertiam_fw-la thomae_fw-la disput_n 240._o n._n 58._o 58._o 1_o disput_n 240._o cap_n 4._o de_fw-fr sacramento_n ordinis_fw-la cap._n 5._o 5._o burnet_n history_n of_o the_o reformation_n part._n 2._o pag._n 154._o de_fw-fr schismate_fw-la anglicane_n lib._n 2._o p._n 205._o 205._o de_fw-fr sacramento_n ordinis_fw-la cap._n 26._o quaest._n 2._o 2._o socrates_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 3._o theodoret._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 9_o hist_o hist_o de_fw-fr eâ—cl_n milit_fw-la lib._n 4._o c._n 8._o 8._o tâ—n_n 1._o p._n 14._o 14._o see_v raynold_n apology_n for_o his_o thesis_n p._n 292._o 292._o hist_o lib._n 5._o c.ult._n c.ult._n see_v dr._n stillingfleet_n of_o the_o phaâ—aâ—iâ—â—sâ—â—â—_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n rome_n andradius_fw-la de_fw-la gen._n council_n autoritate_fw-la lib._n 1._o defence_n fid._n trident_n p_o 115_o 116._o binnius_n tom._n 2._o pag._n 243._o 243._o tom._n 2._o lib._n 6._o c_o 4._o 4._o de_fw-fr sacris_fw-la electionibus_fw-la &_o ordinationibus_fw-la part._n 3._o sect._n 5._o c._n 4._o art._n 2._o 2._o tom._n 2._o lib._n 6_o cap._n 4._o 4._o mason_n lib._n 5._o cap._n 1._o 1._o council_n chalce_v can_v 6._o council_n melden_n can_v 52._o council_n valent._n can_v 6._o 6._o council_n nicen._n can_v 15_o 16._o 16._o dissertationum_fw-la ecclesiasticarum_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 2._o 2._o ep._n 6._o ad_fw-la severum_fw-la &_o ep._n 22._o ad_fw-la amandum_fw-la amandum_fw-la lib._n 1._o contra_fw-la pormenianum_fw-la pormenianum_fw-la baron_fw-fr annal._n tom._n 10._o ad_fw-la annum_fw-la 861._o 861._o baron_fw-fr annal._n tom_n 10._o ad_fw-la annum_fw-la 867._o 867._o bellarm._n de_fw-fr paenitentia_fw-la lib._n 3._o cap._n 2._o 2._o isa_n 43._o v._n 25._o 25._o mic._n 7._o v._n 18._o 18._o mar._n 2._o v._n 7._o luk._n 5._o v._n 22._o 22._o lib_fw-la 4._o advers._fw-la martion_n c._n 10._o 10._o adversus_fw-la haeres_fw-la lib._n 5._o c._n 17._o 17._o comm._n in_o 9_o matth._n matth._n orat._n 3_o cont_n arrianos_fw-la arrianos_fw-la in_o lib._n de_fw-la rectâ_fw-la fide_fw-la ad_fw-la reginas_fw-la reginas_fw-la in_o cap._n 5_o â—ucae_fw-la â—ucae_fw-la in_o 9_o mat._n hom._n 29._o 29._o lib._n 1._o come_v in_o 9_o matthaei_n matthaei_n in_o marc_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 10._o 10._o council_n trident._n sess_z 14._o cap._n 4._o 4._o epist_n 13._o 13._o alcuin_n de_fw-fr divinis_fw-la officiis_fw-la cap._n 13._o 13._o aquin._n opusc_n 22._o cap._n 5._o 5._o in_o matthaeum_n cap._n 16._o 16._o lib._n 4._o distinct_a 18._o e._n f._n f._n ibid._n f._n f._n 2_o cor._n cap._n 5._o v._n 18._o 18._o 2_o cor._n 5_o v._n 19_o 19_o joh._n 3._o v._n 5._o 5._o mar._n 16._o v._n 16._o act_n 2._o v_o 38._o 38._o mat._n 26._o v._n 28._o 28._o gal._n 6._o v._n 1._o 1._o jâ—m_fw-la 5._o v._n 15_o 16._o 16._o estius_n in_o sentent_fw-fr lib._n 4._o distinct_a 12._o sect._n 11._o 11._o 1_o cor._n 11._o 24_o 25._o 25._o matth._n c._n 28._o v._n 18._o 18._o com._n in_o mat._n cap._n 28._o v._n 18._o 18._o cap._n 16._o v._n 33._o 33._o phil._n cap._n 2._o v._n 9_o 10._o 10._o chap._n 7._o 7._o rhemish_a testament_n 1_o cor._n 4._o v._n 1._o 1._o de_fw-fr sacramentis_fw-la disp_n 2._o sect._n 5._o n._n 85._o 85._o part._n 3._o exercit_fw-la 7._o c._n 1._o 1._o de_fw-fr sacris_fw-la electionibâ—s_fw-la &_o ordinationibus_fw-la part_n 2._o sect._n 2._o châ—p_n 2._o art_n 1.2_o 1.2_o ib._n art._n 5._o 5._o council_n cologr_n sub_fw-la hermanno_n archiepiscopo_fw-la cap._n 1._o 1._o council_n mogun_n sub_fw-la sebastiano_n archiepiscopo_fw-la cap._n 25._o 25._o in_o tertiam_fw-la thomae_fw-la disp_n 239._o nu_fw-la 42._o 42._o de_fw-fr sacramento_n ordinis_fw-la cap._n 7._o pag._n 525._o 525._o de_fw-fr sacramento_n ordinis_fw-la cap._n 4._o pag._n 510._o 510._o see_v habertus_n on_o the_o greek_a pontifical_a ad_fw-la part._n 8._o observat_fw-la 9_o pag._n 142._o 142._o de_fw-fr sacramento_n ordinis_fw-la cap._n 9_o 9_o part._n 2._o sect._n 2._o cap._n 2._o art._n 1._o 1._o in_o pontifical_a graec._n pag._n 121._o 121._o de_fw-fr sacramento_n ordinis_fw-la c._n 4._o n._n 6._o 6._o sess_z 23._o can_n 3._o 3._o de_fw-fr sacramento_n ordinis_fw-la cap._n 9_o 9_o in_o tert._n thom._n disput_n 239._o n._n 19_o 19_o council_n trident._n session_n 7._o de_fw-fr sacramentis_fw-la in_o genere_fw-la can_v 9_o 9_o de_fw-fr sacramento_n ordinis_fw-la punct_a 5._o 5._o council_n constan_n sess_z 13._o
of_o ordination_n in_o edward_n the_o sixth_n time_n be_v not_o deficient_a in_o express_v the_o particular_a office_n for_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v give_v here_o mr._n earbury_n amanuensis_fw-la do_v throw_v up_o his_o pen_n and_o paper_n so_o that_o mr._n earbury_n be_v force_v to_o write_v down_o his_o answer_n to_o mr._n acton_n with_o his_o own_o hand_n and_o yet_o mr._n acton_n be_v please_v to_o retain_v his_o own_o amanuensis_fw-la to_o observe_v all_o advantage_n but_o whereas_o some_o do_v say_v that_o mr._n earbury_n do_v allow_v of_o mr._n acton_n answer_n to_o his_o first_o argument_n this_o be_v so_o far_o from_o truth_n that_o mr._n earbury_n for_o his_o vindication_n have_v send_v this_o follow_a note_n to_o mr._n acton_n viz._n i_o do_v affirm_v that_o to_o assert_v that_o our_o saviour_n use_v a_o form_n in_o ordination_n that_o be_v defective_a in_o essential_o be_o derogatory_n from_o his_o wisdom_n and_o little_o better_a than_o blasphemy_n but_o to_o 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