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A67323 Infants baptism from heaven, of divine institution Being a brief yet satisfactory answer to some objections made by Hercules Collins, in his book entituled, Believers baptism from heaven, infants baptism from earth, &c. against certain truths proved in a book entituled, Baptism anatomized. Propounded in five queries, by Tho. Wall. Viz. 1. What water-baptism is? 2. What is the end for which it was instituted? 3. What giveth right to it? 4. Who are the true administrators of it? 5. Whether it be lawful for a man to baptise himself? Wherein the right that the infants of believers have to water-baptism is vindicated: the duty of believing parents in that matter asserted: and that by the contrary tenet and practice, they ought themselved to be excluded from the Lords-Supper, is plainly and fully proved. And wherein is also proved, that the covenant which God made with Abraham, Gen. 17. and with Israel, Exod. 19. and Deut. 29. are the covenant of grace in Christ, and not part of the covenant of works made with Adam before his fall. Wall, Thomas. 1692 (1692) Wing W484; ESTC R219349 20,257 43

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5 6. 1 Pet. 1. 2. they would no doubt have continued with us and not have rent themselves from the Body but they went out that they might be made manifest they were not all of us even so Cain Ismael Esau c. were in the Church and in the Judgment of Man for a time a Holy Seed as was Demas a holy Person therefore concerning Demas one while the Apostle wrote in Commendation of Demas to the Colossians Col. 4. 14. Luke and Demas greet you and to Philemon vers 24. Demas Lucas my fellow labourers yet afterwards writes to Timothy 2 Tim. 4. 10. Demas hath forsaken me having loved this present World again in the Judgment of Philip Simon Magus was a Saint a Believer and had the sign of Remission of his Sins Water-Baptism administred on him now did Peter tell a Lye doth Hercules Collins think to say afterwards Judging him by his Fruits that he was in the Gall of Bitterness and Bond of Iniquity and had no part nor lot in that matter surely this Man Hercules Collins is utterly unfit to take Charge of Souls that thus by his Doctrin chargeth the Apostle to be a Lyer Thus as a blind Leader of the blind he leadeth the People into by-Paths out of the way of Understanding the Scriptures a Right for no other end but to maintain Falshood against the Right Infants of the God of Israel have to Remission of their Sins and so aright to the visible Seal thereof Water-Baptism Moreover he saith in P. 110 There are but two ways of being in Covenant absolutely or conditionally no Believer dares say all his Infants Seed are in the Covenant of Grace absolutely for then they must all be saved but we see that Abraham had an Ishmael Isaac an Esau David an Absolom Samuel Sons of Belial so that they cannot be Baptised under this consideration Reply As no Believer dares say nor did I ever say his Infants Seed are in the Covenant of Grace absolutely according to God's Secret Decree because that is only known to God so no Man dares say all visible actual Believers are in the Covenant of Grace absolutely which God only knoweth therefore Hercules Collins teacheth and granteth that no actual Believers may be Baptised under that consideration because he dares not say all actual Believers are in the Covenant of Grace absolutely and thus he hath again put an end to the Administration of Water-Baptism until he knoweth who the Persons be that are absolutely in the Covenant of Grace and in the mean time let all consider how this Man dissemblingly owned the Doctrin of Election when he put his hand to the Narrative aforesaid And therefore how contrary to God's revealed Will doth Hercules Collins take upon him to judge secret things concerning the state of Believers and their Infants and so censuring all Infants contrary to what the Scripture saith namely that they are the blessed of the Lord speaking of Believers and their Off-spring or Buds with them Esa 65. 23. A Godly Seed Mal. 2 15. A holy Seed Ezra 9. 2. 1 Cor. 7. 14. Children of the Promise Gal. 4. 28. Children of the Covenant Acts 3. 25. Yet this Man presumptuously for want of the Fear of God saith in his Book Page 82 as if he knew God's secret Council Those who Baptise Believers Baptise Christians but those who Baptise Infants Baptise Heathens all Children of Wrath by Nature before born again his Proof is Ephes 3. 2. Reply The Apostle having shewed what the state of Heathens is Eph. 2. 12. To be without Christ aliens from the Commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the Covenant of Promise having no hope and without God in the World and this is the state H. Collins accounteth Believers Infants to be in yea and their own Children to be Heathens in this woful Estate yet this Man hath the face so brazened over as to say that I in Page 3 falsly say if not maliciously that the Anabaptists deny Infants to be Redeemed with Christ's Blood if as aforesaid he saith They that Baptise Infants Baptise Heathens then what is the state of a Heathen but to be without God and Christ out of the visible Promise of the Pardon of Sin as they account their Children and not in the Covenant of Grace how can such Infants be in the visible state of the Redeemed by the Blood of Christ by H. Collins his Doctrin let the Spiritual Man judge Again he saith in Page 113 that I say they reckon their own Children dying in Infancy by their own Judgment are lost and perish to all Eternity see how H. Collins confirmed my words against them First in that he saith all Infants Baptised are Heathens that is without Christ as afore shewed 2ly In Page 87. of his Book he saith All Infants Baptised are not in the Covenant of Grace In his Parallel now let him shew since the Fall whether there is any Salvation promised to any Soul out of the Covenant of Grace until then he concludeth all Infants are Damned because he saith all Infants are Heathens Again in the same Page he further saith in his Parallel all Infants of Believers do not receive Remission of Sins Then I would know of him how Infants can be saved without their Sins are pardoned Therefore that word pierced the Heart of H. Collins that I said from their own Doctrin in my Book Baptism Anatomized Page 1. That the Anabaptists reckon their own Children dying in Infancy by their own Judgment lost and perish to all Eternity being out of the visible Covenant of Grace Which put him upon such streights which way he might take to clear himself of this Just Censure upon this Cursed Doctrin concerning the visible State of Infants The way he hath taken is by devising a Lye against me saying Is not this Man's Doctrin agreeable to the Church of Rome 's and the Council of Carthage who decreed If any asserted Baptism did not take away Original Sin they should be Anathematized Now I ask this Man where and in which Page of my Book I have given the least grant that Baptism washeth away Sin any otherwise than being the Sign of Remission but the contrary I always affirmed That every Soul that shall be saved hath his Sins washed away in the Blood of Christ and that Water-Baptism is but a Sign thereof see Baptism Anatomized but my words aforesaid have so wounded him whether for a savour of Life unto Life or a savour of Death unto Death to him God knoweth which hath forced him to oppose his former words when he accounted Infants Heathens out of the Covenant of Grace Now to say in opposition pretended to me but rather to Rome's Doctrin and not mine concerning the Council of Carthage saying Water in Baptism washeth away Original Sin We saith he can tell you a better way of washing away of Original Sin by the Imputation of Christ's Righteousness to Infants dying in Infancy And thus the Reader may see