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the_o behalf_n of_o believer_n and_o against_o infant_n baptism_n and_o whether_o mr._n will_n have_v reason_n to_o charge_v i_o with_o delusion_n for_o produce_v of_o they_o which_o as_o yet_o stand_v unanswered_a for_o the_o most_o part_n and_o i_o believe_v ever_o will_v do_v chap._n ii_o that_o infant_n baptism_n have_v neither_o foundation_n in_o scripture_n or_o antiquity_n be_v make_v good_a against_o mr._n will_v his_o pretence_n to_o both_o section_n 1_o as_o in_o the_o former_a chapter_n so_o in_o this_o i_o shall_v sum_v up_o what_o i_o have_v say_v to_o justify_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o assertion_n what_o mr._n will_n grant_v thereof_o wherein_o the_o force_n of_o his_o objection_n lie_v and_o my_o reply_n thereto_o baptism_n that_o no_o precept_n or_o practice_n for_o infant_n baptism_n the_o first_o thing_n i_o do_v herein_o be_v to_o make_v good_a the_o scripture_n total_a silence_n either_o as_o to_o precept_n or_o practise_v for_o infnnt_n baptism_n and_o that_o by_o 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of_o god_n it_o be_v a_o general_a rule_n in_o which_o our_o brethren_n and_o we_o have_v long_o since_o agree_v that_o nothing_o aught_o to_o be_v do_v without_o a_o express_a warrant_n in_o the_o gospel_n rutherford_n mr._n rutherford_n mr._n rutherford_n in_o his_o due_a right_n of_o presbytry_n pag._n 364._o do_v also_o tell_v we_o what_o the_o apostle_n command_v not_o in_o god_n worship_n that_o the_o church_n must_v not_o do_v owin_n dr._n owin_n but_o especial_o doctor_n owin_n in_o his_o communion_n with_o god_n pag._n 169_o 170_o etc._n etc._n say_v thus_o the_o main_a of_o the_o church_n chaste_a and_o choice_a affection_n to_o christ_n lie_v in_o their_o keep_v his_o institution_n and_o his_o worship_n according_a to_o his_o appointment_n the_o breach_n of_o this_o he_o call_v adultery_n and_o whoredom_n every_o where_o he_o be_v a_o jealous_a god_n and_o give_v himself_o the_o title_n only_o in_o
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