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A86004 Nihil respondes: or, A discovery of the extream unsatisfactorinesse of Master Colemans peece, published last weeke under the title of A brotherly examination re-examined. Wherein, his self-contradictions: his yeelding of some things, and not answering to other things objected against him: his abusing of Scripture: his errors in divinity: his abusing of the Parliament, and indangering their authority: his abusing of the Assembly: his calumnies, and namely against the Church of Scotland, and against my selfe: the repugnancy of his doctrin to the solemne League and Covenant, are plainly demonstrated. / By George Gillespie minister at Edenburgh. Published by authority. Gillespie, George, 1613-1648. 1645 (1645) Wing G755; Thomason E309_9; ESTC R200413 26,848 36

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corrective_a church_n government_n beside_o that_o which_o be_v civil_a or_o temporal_a for_o that_o same_o book_n cap._n 23._o tell_v we_o that_o in_o their_o synod_n any_o minister_n who_o be_v find_v scandalous_a or_o profane_a in_o his_o life_n be_v censure_v with_o deposition_n from_o his_o office_n ib_n officio_fw-la deponitur_fw-la then_o follow_v finita_fw-la censura_fw-la singuli_fw-la decani_fw-la etc._n etc._n here_o be_v a_o synodical_a censure_n which_o i_o find_v also_o in_o wolphius_n a_o professor_n of_o zurike_n and_o the_o book_n before_o cite_v cap._n 24._o *_o s●mi●_z tell_v we_o of_o some_o corrective_a power_n commit_v to_o pastor_n and_o elder_n which_o elder_n be_v distinguish_v from_o the_o magisteate_n 3._o the_o zurike_v divine_n themselves_o look_v upon_o excommunication_n est_fw-la as_o that_o which_o be_v want_v through_o the_o injury_n of_o the_o time_n the_o thing_n have_v be_v so_o horrible_o abuse_v in_o popery_n and_o the_o present_a licentiousness_n 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blame_v himself_o that_o put_v i_o to_o it_o the_o lord_n guide_v his_o people_n in_o a_o right_a way_n and_o rebuke_v the_o spirit_n of_o error_n and_o division_n and_o give_v we_o all_o more_o of_o his_o spirit_n to_o lead_v we_o into_o all_o truth_n and_o into_o all_o self-denial_n and_o grant_v that_o none_o of_o his_o servant_n be_v find_v unwilling_a to_o have_v the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n to_o reign_v over_o they_o in_o all_o his_o ordinance_n finis_fw-la fault_n in_o the_o print_n page_n 3._o line_n 20._o primitive_a r._n punitive_a ib._n l._n 24._o be_v r._n he_o p._n 8._o l._n 23._o admiration_n r._n administration_n p._n 11._o l._n 6._o he_o have_v r._n i_o have_v p._n 16._o l._n 10._o revile_v r._n resile_v p._n 17._o l._n 17._o be_v r._n be_v p._n 21._o cyrell_n r._n cyrill_n gualther_n archetyp_n in_o ●_z cor_fw-la 5._o 5._o decrevi_fw-la impurum_fw-la hunc_fw-la t●ad●ndum_fw-la esse_fw-la satanae_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la ●jiciendum_fw-la ex_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la etc._o etc._o ratio_fw-la locution●s_fw-la quia_fw-la extra_fw-la e●cl●siam_fw-la ●atan_n regnat_fw-la in_o ver._n 6_o ●●a_fw-la ve●o_fw-la in_fw-la nuit_fw-la disciplinam_fw-la necessariam_fw-la esse_fw-la ne_fw-la contagiu●_z peccan●i_fw-la se●p●t_fw-la in_o ver._n 9_o 10_o 11._o catalogus_fw-la eorum_fw-la qui_fw-la debent_fw-la excomm●n_fw-la ca●i_fw-la ibid._n ●mo_fw-la non_fw-la su●●i●iunt_fw-la ministri_fw-la nisi_fw-la publica_fw-la authoritate_fw-la juven●ur_fw-la idco_fw-la paulus_fw-la corint●io●_z tam_fw-la 〈…〉_z m●net_n ut_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la disciplinam_fw-la instaurent_fw-la and_o sermentum_fw-la omne_fw-la expurgent_fw-la in_o ver._n 13._o tollite_fw-la etc._n etc._n si_fw-la christiani_fw-la es●is_fw-la si_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la vul●is_fw-la ●abere_fw-la purem_fw-la utin_fw-fr ini_fw-la jure_fw-la ve●l●o_fw-la billinger_n in_o 1_o cor._n 5._o v._n 3_o 4_o 5_o v●ri_fw-la ergo_fw-la apostolici_fw-la et_fw-la ve●re●_z quoque_fw-la contum●ces_fw-la et_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la ●●ns●●_z a_fw-la digno●●_z co●●ubernio_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la a●jeceru●t_fw-la excl●den●e●●os_fw-la à_fw-la s●●ris_fw-la 〈…〉_z and_o communion_fw-la c●rporl●_z et_fw-la sangui●●●_z mysti●●_z and_o a_o little_a after_o quod_fw-la sihis_fw-la quoque_fw-la addas_fw-la ordinationem_fw-la christi_fw-la ex_fw-la math●●_z vide●is_fw-la eam_fw-la huc_fw-la quoque_fw-la specta●e_n ut_fw-la publi●è_fw-la mulc●●tur_fw-la quisp●●tis_fw-la 〈…〉_z in_o honest●_n per●exeri●_z vivere_fw-la esse_fw-la enim_fw-la e●●●icum_fw-la et_fw-la publi●●●um_fw-la est_fw-la 〈…〉_z è_fw-it catalogo_fw-la ecclesi●s●ico_fw-la et_fw-la recen●●ri_fw-la haberique_fw-la inter_fw-la ●●cino●osos_fw-la quibus_fw-la nihil_fw-la neque_fw-la o●●icii_fw-la ●eque_fw-la sinceri_fw-la ●u●ò_fw-la commi●●as_fw-la aret._n theol._n probl._n loc._n 133._o a_o deo_fw-la originem_fw-la habit_n and_o a_o christ●_z confirmata_fw-la fuit_fw-la and_o after_o supra_fw-la de_fw-la origine_fw-la dixi_fw-la indicans_fw-la ●●●o_fw-la in●i●tam_fw-la suisse_fw-la ●anc_fw-la disciplinam_fw-la etc._n etc._n demum_fw-la christus_fw-la filius_fw-la dei_fw-la tandem_fw-la ecclei●●u●_z commendavit_fw-la wolphius_n come_v in_fw-la li_fw-it esdrae_fw-la pag._n ●1_n atque_fw-la hoc_fw-la exemplo_fw-la veteris_fw-la testamenti_fw-la discimus_fw-la quid_fw-la facto_fw-la opus_fw-la sit_fw-la in_fw-la n●vot_fw-la nempe_fw-la ut_fw-la crebris_fw-la synodis_fw-la ac_fw-la censuris_fw-la in_fw-la vocationem_fw-la in_fw-la doctrivam_fw-la in_fw-la vitam_fw-la aec_fw-la mores_fw-la ecclesiastarum_fw-la inspiciatur_fw-la *_o in_fw-la ecclesiis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d tigurinae_fw-la deligantur_fw-la seniores_fw-la qui_fw-la un●_z cum_fw-la pastore_fw-la vitia_fw-la corrigant_fw-la postea_fw-la magistratus_fw-la de_fw-fr 〈…〉_z blasphemis_fw-la 〈…〉_z s●mi●_z bullinger_n in_o 1._o cor._n 5._o et_fw-la hac_fw-la tenus_fw-la de_fw-la castigatione_fw-la sceler●i_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la hic_fw-la tamen_fw-la diligenter_fw-la admoni●os_fw-la ●olo_fw-la fraire_n vigilant_a and_o omni_fw-la diligenti●_z curent_fw-la ut_fw-la salviare_fw-la hoc_fw-la pharmacum_fw-la è_fw-la caetu_fw-la sanctorùm_fw-la pontificis_fw-la avaritia_fw-la eliminatum_fw-la reducatur_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la scelera_fw-la offendentia_fw-la plectantur_fw-la hic_fw-la enim_fw-la unicu●_z est_fw-la excommunicationis_fw-la fini●_z ut_fw-la mores_fw-la excolautur_fw-la et_fw-la floreant_fw-la sancti_fw-la prophani_fw-la ve●ò_fw-la coerceantur_fw-la ne_fw-la mal●_z porro_fw-la impudentia_fw-la ac_fw-la impietate_fw-la grass●tur_fw-la nostram_fw-la est_fw-la ista_fw-la ●_z fratres_fw-la summa_fw-la cum_fw-la diligentia_fw-la curare_fw-la videmus_fw-la enim_fw-la et_fw-la paulum_fw-la cess●ntes_fw-la hoc_fw-la loco_fw-la incicare_fw-la aretius_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la magistratu●_z jugum_fw-la non_fw-la admittunt_fw-la timen●_n honoribus_fw-la licentium_fw-la amant_fw-la etc._n etc._n vulgus_fw-la quoque_fw-la et_fw-la plebs_fw-la d●ssolutio●_z major_fw-la pars_fw-la corruptissima_fw-la est_fw-la etc._n etc._n int●●●●_z non_fw-la 〈◊〉_d esse_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ●ateor_fw-la dabit_fw-la posterior_fw-la aetas_fw-la tructabiliores_fw-la for●●_z anima●_z minor●_n pectora_fw-la quam_fw-la nostra_fw-la habent_fw-la seculas_fw-la lavater_n in_o nehem_n homil._n 52._o quia_fw-la pontifices_fw-la romani_fw-la excommunicatione_fw-la ●…endum_fw-la ●suam_fw-la tyrannidem_fw-la abusi_fw-la sunt_fw-la factum_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la nulla_fw-la ferè_fw-la justa_fw-la discipl●na_fw-la amplius_fw-la in_fw-la ecclesiis_fw-la jnstitui_fw-la possit_fw-la nisi_fw-la autem_fw-la sl●g_fw-la ●i●si_fw-la coerceantur_fw-la omnia_fw-la ruant_fw-la in_fw-la pejus_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la