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A46757 Historical examination of the authority of general councils shewing the false dealing that hath been used in the publishing of them, and the difference amongst the Papists themselves about their number. Jenkin, Robert, 1656-1727. 1688 (1688) Wing J568; ESTC R21313 80,195 100

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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d conc._n tom._n 8._o col_fw-fr 1360._o so_o that_o this_o council_n of_o nice_a be_v receive_v neither_o in_o the_o east_n nor_o in_o the_o west_n during_o one_o century_n after_o it_o be_v hold_v nay_o it_o have_v be_v late_o show_v that_o till_o the_o fifteen_o century_n the_o veneration_n of_o image_n be_v reject_v by_o the_o most_o eminent_a person_n of_o the_o western_a church_n 6._o church_n fallibility_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n demonstrate_v from_o the_o second_o council_n of_o nice_a c._n 4._o sess_v 6._o afterward_o image_n and_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a have_v a_o bless_a time_n of_o it_o and_o the_o people_n grow_v fond_a of_o these_o which_o they_o call_v laymens_n book_n when_o their_o priest_n can_v scarce_o read_v any_o other_o and_o though_o it_o may_v well_o be_v expect_v that_o the_o extravagance_n of_o this_o dotage_n shall_v be_v much_o abate_v since_o the_o reformation_n especial_o in_o france_n where_o popery_n be_v new_o model_v and_o 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that_o see._n the_o four_o viii_o four_o vid._n not._n ad_fw-la conc._n c.p._n iu._n col_fw-fr 1491._o conc._n vol._n viii_o which_o go_v under_o the_o name_n of_o the_o eight_o general_n council_n be_v that_o of_o florence_n of_o which_o i_o shall_v forbear_v to_o speak_v till_o we_o come_v to_o it_o in_o order_n 2._o the_o council_n of_o c._n p._n which_o condemn_v photius_n be_v esteem_v the_o eight_o general_n council_n by_o the_o latin_n general_o and_o that_o which_o restore_v he_o by_o the_o greek_n by_o zonaras_n balsamon_n psellus_n nilus_n etc._n etc._n marcus_n ephesinus_n principio_fw-la ephesinus_n sess_n vi_o in_o principio_fw-la in_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n maintain_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a greek_a church_n 13._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d marc._n ephes_n in_o conc._n flor._n sesse_n 6._o col_fw-fr 87._o conc._n vol._n 13._o that_o the_o council_n of_o c._n p._n which_o restore_v photius_n have_v null_v the_o council_n which_o the_o latin_n 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fecimus_fw-la &_o omnino_fw-la delevimus_fw-la tum_fw-la propter_fw-la alia_fw-la tum_fw-la quoniam_fw-la adrianus_n papa_n non_fw-la subscripsit_fw-la in_o ea_fw-la de_fw-fr eodem_fw-la joannes_n apocrisiariis_fw-la suis_fw-la dicetis_fw-la quod_fw-la illas_fw-la synodos_fw-la quae_fw-la contra_fw-la phorium_n sub_fw-la adriano_n papa_n romae_fw-la vel_fw-la constantinopoli_fw-it sunt_fw-la facta_fw-la cassamus_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr numero_fw-la sanctarum_fw-la synodorum_n delemus_fw-la john_n the_o eight_o to_o photinus_n the_o patriarch_n we_o have_v vacate_v and_o entire_o abolish_v the_o constantinopolitan_a synod_n which_o be_v make_v against_o photius_n as_o well_o for_o other_o reason_n as_o because_o pope_n adrian_n do_v not_o subscribe_v in_o it_o of_o the_o same_o thing_n john_n to_o his_o apocrisiarii_n you_o shall_v say_v that_o we_o vacate_v and_o dash_v out_o of_o the_o number_n of_o the_o holy_a synod_n all_o those_o synod_n which_o be_v hold_v against_o photius_n under_o 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