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A15134 An examination of M. Doctor VVhytgiftes censures, contained in tvvo tables, sett before his booke, entituled The defence of the aunswer to the admonition, &c.; Examination of M. Doctor Whytgiftes censures, contained in two tables, sett before his booke, entituled The defence of the aunswer to the admonition, &c. Fulke, William, 1538-1589, attributed name. 1575 (1575) STC 25433; ESTC S119896 42,859 56

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d._n abhor_v these_o absurdity_n but_o when_o he_o be_v so_o hard_a a_o interpreter_n of_o other_o man_n word_n you_o may_v see_v what_o may_v be_v collect_v of_o his_o own_o 7_o he_o affirm_v that_o in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n 〈…〉_o drunkard_n nor_o whoremonger_n at_o the_o least_o which_o 〈…〉_o which_o assertion_n send_v to_o anabaptisme_n pag._n 176._o 7_o the_o seven_o assertion_n be_v say_v to_o tend_v to_o anabaptisme_n which_o affirm_v that_o in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n there_o be_v no_o drunkard_n nor_o whormonger_n at_o the_o least_o which_o be_v know_v true_o if_o t_n c_o have_v add_v no_o reason_n of_o this_o assertion_n yet_o i_o thynk_v a_o indifferent_a reader_n will_v have_v understand_v his_o meaning_n to_o be_v of_o such_o church_n where_o discipline_n be_v exercise_v but_o when_o he_o join_v the_o reason_n name_o that_o such_o offender_n be_v there_o restore_v by_o repentance_n or_o cast_v out_o by_o excommunication_n and_o so_o be_v to_o be_v account_v 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