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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A64353	The creed of Mr. Hobbes examined in a feigned conference between him and a student in divinity.	Tenison, Thomas, 1636-1715.	1670 (1670)	Wing T691; ESTC R22090	155,031	274

before them if these can promote their private good by Sword or Poyson or Mutiny The people if they believ'd that a company of Delinquents joyning together to defend themselves by Arms do not at all unjustly but may lawfully repel lawful Force by Force they would soon be stirred up and suffer none for whom they have respect to be brought to justice For your last particular concerning the Power of the Civil Soveraign in relation to that for which we have assign'd The Ninth place that is to say the Canon of holy Scripture it see●eth a great indignity offered to the Soveraignty of Christ. Upon this occasion I remember a saying of Dr. Weston which would better have become a man in Buff then a Prolocutor of the Convocation After six days spent in hot dispute about Religion in the Reign of Queen Mary he dismissed those of the Reformed way in these words It is not the Queens pleasure that we should spend any longer time in these debates and ye are well enough already for you have the Word and we have the Sword So little of the obligation of holy Writ is perceived by those whose eyes are dazled with Secular Grandeur But before we come to dispute of the power which maketh the Scripture Canon which is as 't were the Main Battle may we not a little breathe and prepare our selves in some lesser Skirmishes touching the Writings of the Old and New Testament Mr. Hobbes If you like that course I am ready to joyn with you First then I take notice that divers historical Books of the Old Testament were not written by those whose names they bear to wit much of the Pentateuch the Books of Ioshuah and Iudges and Ruth and Samuel and Kings and Chronicles Stud. This hath bin long since said and proved by the places which you cite in your Leviathan by the Frenchman who founded a Systeme of Divinity upon the conceit of men before Adam who also by Recantation unravel'd his own Cobweb spun out of his own fancie rather then the true Records of time But this doth not invalidate the truth of those Histories whose sufficient antiquity is by you granted Mr. Hobbes I observe again concerning the Book of Iob that though it appear sufficiently that he was no feigned person yet the Book it self seemeth not to be an History but a Treatise concerning a question in ancient time disputed why wicked men have often prospered in this world and good men have been afflicted and it is the more probable because the whole dispute is in Verse but Verse is no usual stile of such as either are themselves in great pain as Iob or of such as come to comfort them as his Friends but in Philosophy especially moral Philosophy in ancient time frequent Stud. It is not thought that Iob or his Friends but Moses or some other pen'd the History in the form in which we have it But however you here alledge a Reason which proveth the contrary to the purpose you would have it serve for For Poetry exciting the imagination and affections is fittest for painting out the Scene of Tragedy You have surely forgotten Ovid de Tristibus Mr. Hobbes Please your self in replies I will proceed to observe further that as for the Books of the Old Testament they are derived to us from no other time then that of Esdras who by the direction of Gods Spirit ●etrived them when they were lost Stud. That place in the fourth Book of Esdras wherein it is said in his person Thy Law is burnt therefore no man knoweth the things that thou hast done is a very fable For though the Autographa of Moses and the Prophets have been thought to have perished at the burning of Hierusalem yet it is not true that all the Copies were destroyed For the Prophets in the Captivity read the Law And concerning that whole fourth Book it is said by Bellarmine himself that the Author is a Romancer Of the like nature may they seem who talk of the men of the Synagoga magna making Ezra to be a chief man amongst them and ascribing to them the several divisions and sections of the Old Testament even that wherein the Book of Daniel is most absurdly reckon'd amongst the Hagiographa Of that Synagoga magna there is not one word spoken by Iosephus or St. Hierom though both had very fair occasions in some parts of their writings to have intreated of it And the deficiencie of the Jewish story about that time may move us to believe that this was the fiction of modern Rabbies and Morinus thinks he has demonstrated that so it was Mr. Hobbes I note again that the Septuagint who were seventy Learned men of the Jews sent for by Ptolomy King of Egypt to translate the Jewish Law out of the Hebrew into Greek have left us no other Books for holy Scripture in the Greek Tongue but the same that are received in the Church of England Stud. It is not resolved whether they translated any more then the five Books of Moses and whether they turn'd them out of Hebrew Chaldee or the Samaritan Tongue to which latter Pentateuch the translation of the seventy is shew'd by Hottinger to agree most exactly in a very great number of places by him produced in order but there is as great question whether that we have be the true Copy of the Seventy for seeing therein the names of places as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for Caphto●im are there rendred not according to the Hebrew but after the manner in which they were call'd in the latter times under the second Temple the antiquity of the Copy of Rome may be suspected Mr. Hobbes Be it also observed that those Books which are called Apocrypha were left out of the Canon not for inconformity of Doctrine with the rest but onely because they are not found in the Hebrew Stud. Here again you erre for by the same Reason some part which is contained in the Canon should have been of old excluded For instance the Book of Daniel is partly written in Hebrew and partly written in Caldee for Daniel had learnt that Tongue in Babylon by the command of the King Neither are all Apocryphal Books to be thought not written in Hebrew for that excellent Book of the Son of Syrach as is manifest by his Preface to it was a translation out of the Hebrew Copy of his Grand-father Iesus The Reason why such Books were not received by the Jews into the Canon was not what you suggest but because they seem'd not written by that kinde of prophesie which they called Ruach Hakkodesh Mr. Hobbes I confess St. Hierom had seen the first of the Maccabees in Hebrew Stud. Neither is that rightly noted For the Book which St. Hierom saw as is thought by Drusius a man profoundly learned in these matters was the first Book of the History of the Hasmon●ei whos 's Epoch was of later