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A54742 Proteus redivivus, or, The turner of Turners-Hall truly represented and the abuses and falsehoods of George Keith's fourth narrative, so far as they concern the author, examin'd and detected / by Daniel Phillips. Phillips, Daniel, d. 1748. 1700 (1700) Wing P2063; ESTC R32295 31,113 43

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is Equal with God or supply the Deficiency with the Addition of hath what and it will run thus He that hath the same Spirit that raised up Jesus Christ hath what is Equal with God I am induced to imagine that there rather is a Deficiency than a Redundancy because the Book is very ill Printed and I observe there are several Words omitted in it to make the Discourse Sense in the Line precedent to this is a Quotation out of the Scriptures in which there is a word omitted which could not be designedly because it doth not any ways alter the Sense of the Text that G. Fox attributes an Equality with God to nothing in Man but to the Holy Spirit is obvious to any unbiassed Person that will attentively read Saul's Errand p. 5. and duly consider the drift of his Discourse in this or any other of his Books look back to p. 5. of the same Treatise and there ex professo he answereth the same Objection He being then accused by the Lancashire Petition that he professed and avowed that he was Equal with God His own Answer there is It was not so spoken that G. F. was equal with God but that the Father and the Son is One. Six Lines under this G. F. saith The same Spirit where it is is equal with God And in p. 10. he repeats again almost the same words near the foot of that Page Being accused of the same thing i. e. That he was equal with God by one C. Wade His Answer was * Great Mystery p. 248. All that have the Son and the Holy Ghost have that which is equal in Power and Glory with the Father And by the Text of Scripture cited by G. F. in the Margin and these Quotations out of his own Writings it is undeniable that he attributed Equality solely to the Spirit of God and Christ in Man and not to any thing in Man simply considered as Man without the Indwelling of the Holy Ghost They that have been concerned in Printing will not think it impossible for an Error to happen in a Book the Printed Errata's are an undeniable Witness thereof either from the unfairness of the Copy or from the heedlesness of the Corrector especially in the absence of the Author and it is not unknown to many that G. F. was generally in Prison or in the Country when his Books were a Printing I see no occasion to deny that some of our Writings may be Elliptical seeing the Scriptures are also under the same Predicament if we may credit Bishop Kidder in his Demonstration of the Messias * Part II. p. 129. where he produces some Quotations out of the Holy Scriptures where he saith the word only is vertually included tho' not verbally express'd If the Quakers have in like manner in some places omitted the word only I hope they are not guilty of an unpardonable Error Neither is a Book to be rejected if I were to give in my Verdict because there may be some Difficulties or seeming Inconsistencies in it Where is that Author even amongst the Learned Rabbies of this Age that hath so Clear and so Logical a Head as to be able to word his matter so nicely that a Critick cannot observe a Flaw in his Writings If they that have all the advantages of Education are liable to have their words wrested to a Sense they never Dream'd of who then can imagine that the Illiterate Man's Sayings will be exempted from the like Inconveniencies Are the Scriptures which by all Christians are allowed to be dictated by the eternal Spirit totally free from Difficulties or seeming Inconsistencies For deciding this Matter Let us hear what the Learned Bishop Kidder saith * Demon. Mes P. II. p. 129. They are very weak and foolish Men who will renounce the whole Religion because there are some things said or taught in it which they are not able to comprehend or give an account of There are many Difficulties in the Old Testament and seeming Contradictions and yet both the Jews and Christians do with great Reason receive those Books with great Veneration It were a very casie thing to perplex a learned Jew with many Difficulties to be found in the Books of Moses of Samuel the Kings and Chronicles but he will not therefore doubt of the whole because he is not able to give a clear account of those difficult Passages which are found therein What he saith here of the Old he grants the same of the New Testament That lately common tho' in my Opinion silly Objection i. e. That I may see cause otherwise to word the Matter and yet my intention be the same Were they only illiterate Creatures that Objected this as an Heretical saying against the Quakers I should not be surprized at it but for Men of Letters who have been Educated at the Universities as most of the Ministers of the National Church have been to recite this as a Notorious Crime in them is a sign of a disingenuous Nature if they are found tardy in the same thing G. K. to expose the Quakers or Himself in his late Broad Sheet Entituled A Serious Call to the Quakers c. under the head of Vile and Monstrous Doctrines Principles and Uncharitable Sayings hath cited this saying of G. W. viz. * Count. Conv. p. 12. I may see cause otherwise to word the Mat and yet my Intention be the same Is this a Vile and Monstrous Doctrine Is this a Vile and Monstrous Principle or an Uncharitable saying Under which of these three Heads to reduce it I do confess I am at a loss and if G. K. would so far oblige me as to tell me under which of them it is to be placed I shall acknowledge it as some part of a Satisfaction for telling his Auditory at Turner's Hall That I was a Fool. A few Lines under this Citation G. K. it may be fearing his single affirmation would not be Credited borrows the Names of Three Doctors and Five Masters of Arts of the Church of England so called to Co-attest the Truth of this and some other Citations I am satisfied the Quakers will never see Cause to retract this saying of G. W. viz. I may see cause otherwise to word the Matter and yet my intention be the same if wording a Subject differently is an Antichristian act how Guilty then are your School-Masters c. who daily teach their Scholars not to use the same Term or reiterate the same Phrase in any Epistle Theme Copy of Verses or Declamation they Compose but as often as they are barren of Synonymous Terms or Phrases to fertilize their Mind they are order'd to have recourse to Gradus ad Parnassum Winchester Phrases c. which are Books Composed only for that intent If these Treatises are Pernicious to the Christian Religion let them be exiled the Schools and let those that presume to Print them be Excommunicated But should we view G. K's Writings or these
G. K. his abetting Ministers and my Self at Turner's Hall with some Observations on his Fourth Narrative relating thereunto And that I may not be altogether Immethodical I shall consider every Paragraph wherein I find my Name specified in the same order as they are printed in his Narrative beginning with p. 21. * Fourth Narr p. 21. A Quaker call'd D. Phillips standing by near where I stood said That Book i. e. The Way cast up was approved by the Second-Days-Meeting at London which was a great Vntruth I told how I wrote that Book in Scotland and from Scotland sent it to a Correspondent in Holland who printed it there and when it come over to London in the Year 1678. it met with great Opposition from divers of the Preachers of the Quakers at London as Steven Crisp William Shewen William Mead and Samuel Newton Obser I could deny what he asserts of me here to be True because of some Additions This Mistake I would rather impute to that Officious Person that gave him the Relation of what I said than to any design in G. K. to mis-represent my Words being well satisfied he cannot say he heard me speak any thing like it For when I spoke to some that were by me concerning that Book I stood in a Corner behind him so that he could neither conveniently see or hear me because he was then directing his Discourse to his Auditory that was before him But admitting it for granted that I did say his Book call'd The Way cast up was approved by the Second-Days-Meeting at London I am apt to think no unprejudiced Person will assert I am guilty of a great Untruth i. e. great Lye for saying that That Book was approved by the Second-Days-Meeting at London when he hath Read what G. K. saith concerning that very Book in the Defence of the Snake and duly considered the Reasons advanced by him here to prove it The First Reason whereby he would insinuate that I am guilty of a great Untruth seems to run thus That Book was Writ in Scotland Printed in Holland and therefore could not be Censured by the Second-Days-Meeting at London Is it not possible that a Book may be Writ in the East-Indies Printed in the West-Indies yet may be approved or disapproved of in London The inconclusiveness of this Argument is so obvious that I am of Opinion it would be nauseous to the Reader to detain him any longer thereon Therefore shall proceed to his Second When it i. e. The Way cast up came over to London in the Year 1678. it met with great Opposition from divers of the Preachers of the Quakers at London Under this extensive term Divers only Four are here included and that is the greatest number that I have heard did then object against any of the Expressions contained in that Book Should all that he asserteth on this Subject be Credited as Truth tho' at the same time I have great cause to suspect his Sincerity in this Matter because in other Relations he has Printed Notorious Falshoods it would affect the whole Body of Quakers no more than if any should prove there were Four Ministers of the Church of England so call'd that were Socinians would affect the whole Episcopal Clergy in England neither do I conceive he would have continued Fourteen Years after this Strenuously defending their Principles as Orthodox or have said as he doth in his Preface to his Serious Appeal Printed in Pensilvania 1692. which is Fourteen Years after the Conference about this Book was managed viz. * Preface to the Serious Appeal It never yet hath been proved nor ever will be that the Religion professed by the Sincere and Faithful People called in Scorn Quakers is either Paganism or any other thing than real Christianity had he not been Convinced that they held no such Errors as by wresting of their Words he would now insinuate Had he deserted their Society immediately after this Conference it might have had some shadow of Reason to induce some to Credit this Story concerning our above-nominated Four Friends but I can scarce have so hard Thoughts of him as to imagine he would have tarried amongst them so many Years after this Conference had these Men Opinions as here related by him been the avowed Principles of the Quakers as now he seems to assert I am so far from an Opinion that he deserted them on this Account that I believe had he not been Expell'd their Society he would not have divested himself of the Title of a Quaker to this Day because several Years after he was Exiled their Communion for some Irregularities he own'd himself to be a Quaker which is almost a Demonstration to me that he did not think Antichristian Doctrines Essential to Quakerism so call'd My Sentiments are that he kept that Title as long as he was in any hopes of gaining a Party of them or any others to side with him but finding his greatest Endeavours to divide them Fruitless and it may be his Necessities very pressing partly out of Revenge and partly through the Charms of a good Stipend he makes his Intentions known to some of the Church of England so call'd who willingly received him not as I am subject to believe out of any great Esteem of his Sincerity but having a design against the Quakers c. they thought him a Tool as well qualified to stir up Persecution against them as any But to return to what more immediately concerns my self viz. to prove that Book i. e. The Way cast up was approved of by a Meeting of Friends I could produce a Cloud of Witnesses but doubting the Narrator will insinuate his Old Friends are now become his Enemies and therefore their Evidence against him is not to be Credited I shall omit theirs and only recite what G. K. saith conceiving he will not eat his own Words concerning this Treatise in the Defence of the Snake his Partiality therein I shall not now determine but shall suspend till I have seen his Opponents Answer his Words are * Defence of the Snake p. 25. In the Conclusion after there had been two Meetings about it the Persons that had accused me were desired by the Meeting to desist from their Charge and say nothing against the Book i. e. The Way cast up and whereas some Friends that were dissatisfied at my Book had forbidden the Stationer in George-yard to sell it because it was Unsound Order was given by the Meeting that the Stationer might be encouraged to Sell it that it might have its Service in City and Country as according was done It is to be observ'd that there is but one Meeting amongst Friends that doth actually concern themselves about Printing c. of Books if this Relation of G. K. is true how am I guilty then of a great Untruth I leave to the Consideration of the Unprejudiced to give in their Verdict I shall conclude my Observations on this Paragraph with one