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A19328 The ungirding of the Scottish armour: or, An ansvver to the informations for defensive armes against the Kings Majestie which were drawn up at Edenburgh, by the common help and industrie of the three tables of the rigid covenanters of the nobility, barons, ministry, and burgesses, and ordained to be read out of pulpit by each minister, and pressed upon the people, to draw them to take up armes, to resist the Lords anointed, throughout the vvhole kingdome of Scotland. By Iohn Corbet, minister of Bonyl, one of the collegiate churches of the provostrie of Dunbartan. Nicanor, Lysimachus, 1603-1641. 1639 (1639) STC 5753; ESTC S119005 43,296 68

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bestow it upon any man to be their King for none can give that to another which they have not themselves 5. Ye say the people may be without the Magistrate Answer So have you made us this yeare and more in stead of a King we have had the Ephori of Sparta and the Roman Tribunes over-ruling us strange Lords rule over us to the great contempt of our own King Dominis parere superbis cogimur 2. The world was not without a King till Cain's time for Adam was King his Empire was paternall and therfore Monarchicall for albeit at first he did not actually exercise politicall Government before the people did multiply yet ex vijuris naturae by the force of the law of nature it was due to the first progenitor Adam to be governour of his posterity and thus habitually he was King from his first creation and therfore that assertion of the Monarchomachists is not alwaies true the King is not without a people as the people are without a King I see you think you may be well without our King what remaineth then but with the Bishops let Kings go too and lay a ground for Anabaptisme 6. You say the body of the Magistrate is mortall I pray you what kind of people are you Qui genus unde demo Are you only the off-spring of God I reade in Scripture that God saies to Kings Psal 82.6 7. I have said ye are gods but to which of you is this name given and if you will assume that to you take the rest of the Text with you but ye shall die like men It 's an old saying Rex nunquam maritur The King never dieth But one generation goeth and another commeth Let it content you that tho King and you are of one mettall Now in the end having thus many waies preferred your selves to the King you make this monstrous conclusion It 's adirect over-turning of all foundation of Policie to preferre subjection to the Prince to the preservation of the common-wealth Answ Here you separate that which God hath joyned together and make these two opposite which ever must go hand in hand together for Subjection to the Prince is the only way to preserve the Common-wealth where Subjection is not Gods ordinance is contemned the foundation of policie over-turned and the Common-wealth exposed to ruine as is cleare in the answer to your first Argument Covenanter From the Covenant betwixt God and the people 4. Argument for the people and the Magistrate are joyntly bound in Covenant with God for observing and preserving the Commandements of the first and second tables as may be seene in the bookes of Samuel Kings and Chronicles As the fault of the people will not excuse the Magistrates negligence so the fault of the King will not excuse the people if they resist not his violence pressing them against the Covenant of God this argument is strongly pressed by sound and religious politicians Anticovenanter You should declare how King and people are both jointly bound Will you have King and Subject of equall power about the observation and preservation of the Tables You are bound to keep the Commandements of God as well as your King but the King is bound to do more to wit to be carefull that all his Subjects keep them and to punish transgressours I have read the whole Scripture of God but I could never find this power given to Subjects It 's enough for them to keep the Tables themselves but they have no authority to command others much lesse doth it belong to them to resist the Magistrate If the King presse the people to the breach of the Law they must not obey since God his Superiour commands the contrary but yet they must not resist since God both their Superiours forbids You poorely beg here the question affirming that the people will sin if they resist not but you will never prove it You say it is strongly pressed by sound politicians but you presse it most weakly and unfoundly not nominating one sound Politician for you For no Wiseman will confound the Princes authority with the people and turne a Monarchie into a Democracie Covenanter From the subordination of Powers appointed by God 5. Argument The same law and order that appoints to obey the supreme Magistrate rather than his Deputie appoints us also to obey God rather than man and the same law and order that leadeth us to defend the supreme Magistrate against the invasion of his Deputie commandeth us also to defend Gods right and to preserve the peoples peace against the unjust invasion of the supreme Magistrate who can be thought no lesse subordinate to God then his Vicegerent is to him Anticovenanter This Argument is builded upon sand you dreame that whatsoever meanes may be used for preservation of the Prince against his Deputies the same may be used for the preservation of Gods right and the peoples peace But you erre not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God Both by Gods Law and mans law Subjects are bound to defend their Prince But Gods Law commands not to defend his right by armes the weapons of our warfare are spirituall and not carnall Patience Faith with other graces are our Armour we must be subject for conscience sake and not take Gods place to represse our Superiours If any inferiour judge wrong me I must not resist him but appeale to his Superiour and from him again to his Superiour even to the King the Supreme and if he will be unjust and wrong me I must not resist but commit my cause to God to whom vengeance belongeth It is a point of Atheisme and distrusting of Gods providence to think that God will not help against Tyrants and therfore men will be their owne judges and revenge themselves But the Lord hath said Psal 12.5 For the oppression of the poore and the sighing of the needy now I will arise and set him in safety c. Then take Salomons counsell Prov. 20.22 Say not thou I will recompense evill but wait on the Lord and he will save thee Suffer me then to attest you my deare Countrey-men What thinke you to doe O yee Covenanters for God and the King You undertake armes not for God who desires nothing but peace You publish Rebellion He commands Obedience You trouble the rest and quiet of a King he willeth us to endure hardnesse though at the hand of a Pagan You doe it for God whose name yee call upon and deny his Power You doe it for God who detesteth your actions and knowes your thoughts And you doe it for that God who will confound all those who breed confusion among his people You undertake warre for Religion against the Defender of Religion You raise armies for Religion and nothing hindereth it so much as warres You fight for holinesse and your weapons destroy the Church authorize blasphemie plant Atheisme impiety and despising of Devotion in all places You march under