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he_o answer_v thus_o as_o if_o we_o have_v procure_v all_o these_o battle_n murder_n destruction_n minister_n the_o flourish_n of_o the_o minister_n as_o if_o we_o or_o our_o religion_n be_v the_o occasion_n etc._n etc._n what_o a_o shameless_a fellow_n be_v this_o to_o impute_v the_o cause_n oâ—_n trouble_v and_o war_n unto_o we_o that_o ever_o avoid_v war_n as_o much_o as_o we_o can_v and_o offer_v force_n to_o no_o man_n nor_o ever_o stir_v but_o as_o defendant_n for_o safeguard_n of_o our_o life_n be_v lamb_n the_o cause_n of_o the_o cruelty_n of_o wolf_n all_o these_o big_a word_n be_v but_o argument_n of_o the_o noddy_n distract_a mind_n etc._n etc._n lo_o reader_n what_o a_o manner_n of_o answer_v this_o be_v and_o how_o many_o book_n may_v be_v make_v in_o this_o kind_n of_o write_v wherefore_o leave_v this_o let_v we_o come_v to_o the_o matter_n of_o division_n in_o religion_n where_o i_o say_v that_o before_o this_o alteration_n of_o religion_n by_o luther_n there_o be_v 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and_o consequent_o he_o do_v as_o much_o as_o if_o with_o one_o hand_n he_o shall_v embrace_v &_o lul_a and_o couple_n together_o both_o lutheran_n zwinglians_n and_o puritan_n acknowledge_v they_o for_o his_o dear_a and_o tender_a brethren_n and_o with_o the_o other_o shall_v beat_v they_o of_o &_o detest_v they_o as_o enemy_n and_o public_a heretic_n for_o so_o he_o do_v in_o effect_n see_v it_o be_v evident_a that_o neither_o the_o sectarye_n of_o lutheran_n zwinglians_n or_o puritan-caluinists_a of_o geneva_n france_n scotland_n holland_n or_o england_n do_v agree_v which_o o._n e._n his_o rule_n of_o faith_n here_o mention_v to_o wit_n the_o rule_n establish_v by_o common_a consent_n at_o this_o day_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o this_o be_v evident_o and_o abundant_o prove_v by_o their_o own_o book_n and_o say_n before_o recite_v in_o the_o 4.5.6_o and_o sequent_a chapter_n of_o this_o encounter_n but_o for_o that_o our_o minister_n make_v mention_v here_o of_o a_o 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our_o rulâ—_n and_o to_o the_o philippense_n in_o eadem_fw-la permaneamus_fw-la regula_fw-la let_v we_o persist_v in_o the_o same_o rule_n and_o to_o the_o gallatian_o 3._o phil._n 3._o quicúnque_fw-la hanc_fw-la regulam_fw-la secuâ—â—_n fuerâ—â—t_fw-la pax_fw-la super_fw-la illos_fw-la whosoever_o shall_v follow_v this_o rule_n of_o faith_n 6._o gal._n 6._o peace_n upon_o they_o and_o other_o such_o place_n 12._o rom._n 12._o as_o namely_o to_o the_o roman_n prophetia_fw-la secundum_fw-la rationem_fw-la fidei_fw-la prophesy_v by_o which_o iâ—_n understand_v here_o principal_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n or_o analogy_n oâ—_n faith_n for_o so_o be_v the_o greek_n word_n by_o all_o which_o place_n be_v manifest_a that_o there_o iâ—_n a_o certain_a public_a rule_n of_o faith_n and_o be_v eveâ—_o among_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o and_o thesamâ—_n continue_v afterward_o by_o all_o the_o father_n oâ—_n every_o age_n whereby_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o 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