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resolve_v the_o same_o aug._n l._n de_fw-fr moribus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la contra_fw-la manicheos_n aug._n confess_v lib._n 5._o cap._n 13._o &_o lib._n 6._o c._n 1._o 2._o 11._o what_o force_n disputation_n have_v in_o resolve_v matter_n of_o faith_n act._n 15._o the_o manner_n of_o proceed_v under_o the_o apostle_n the_o want_n which_o sectarye_n have_v to_o determine_v matter_n by_o cicero_n in_o paradox_n the_o willfullnes_n of_o foxtan_n unlearned_a sectarye_n in_o disputation_n disputation_n mensiâ—us_fw-la jan_n mars_n sept_n &_o noucmb_n the_o story_n of_o a_o mani_n hean_v woman_n that_o dispute_v with_o a_o bishop_n mareus_n in_o vita_fw-la s._n porphirij_fw-la the_o cause_n of_o the_o edition_n of_o these_o disputation_n first_o disputation_n of_o peter_n martyr_n at_o oxford_n 1549._o fox_n pag._n 1249._o fox_n pag._n 1115._o &_o 1205._o see_v statue_n book_n a_o 1._o edw._n 6._o cap._n 1._o fox_n pag._n 1548._o zuinallanisue_v admit_v 1546._o 1546._o sup._n decemb_n 26._o see_v doctor_n saunders_n l._n 2._o de_fw-la sehi_fw-la m._n aâ—gl_n 1._o cor._n 11._o the_o dissemble_a of_o peter_n martyr_n &_o bucer_n luth._o lib._n count_n sacrament_n &_o alibi_fw-la sapâ—_n three_o question_n to_o be_v dispute_v at_o oxford_n 1549._o see_v the_o defence_n of_o the_o relation_n of_o 〈◊〉_d his_o disputation_n with_o b._n peâ—on_n of_o eureux_fw-fr tom_fw-mi 2_o part_n 3_o or_o our_o three_o convernon_n two_o similitude_n to_o express_v the_o vain_a wtangle_a of_o sacramentarye_n about_o transubstantiation_n fraudulent_a deal_n of_o protestant_n in_o disputation_n fox_n pag._n 1249._o 2._o fraud_n see_v afterward_o c._n 3._o fox_n pag._n ibid._n 3._o fraud_n sand_n lâ—b_n 2._o the_o schism_n angl._n d._n saunders_n relation_n of_o this_o disputation_n at_o oxford_n the_o second_o disputation_n hold_v by_o d._n ridley_n in_o cambridge_n trifle_a disputation_n of_o our_o first_o protestant_n fox_n pag._n 1254._o fox_n pag._n 1255._o fox_n note_v the_o disagreement_n of_o his_o own_o man_n ridleyes_n fond_a aunsweringe_v fox_n pag._n 1256._o the_o 3._o disputation_n at_o cambridge_n anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 1549._o d._n perne_n confess_v the_o corporal_a presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n fox_n pag._n 1257._o fond_a argument_n of_o sacramentarye_n albanus_n langlandus_n in_o confut_o determ_fw-la nicol._n ridley_n the_o partial_a dealing_v of_o protestant_n in_o their_o disputation_n psalm_n 115._o the_o 4._o disputation_n at_o cambridge_n 1549._o fox_n pag._n 1257._o d._n pearne_v speak_v doubtful_o &_o double_o about_o the_o sacrament_n the_o fond_a manner_n of_o this_o disputation_n fox_n pag._n 1260._o contradiction_n in_o fox_n his_o word_n m._n vavesour_n commend_v zuinglius_fw-la and_o oecolampadius_n doubtful_a of_o their_o doctrine_n at_o the_o begin_v fox_n pag._n 1261._o the_o 5._o disputation_n or_o determination_n at_o cambridge_n by_o m._n ridley_n fox_n pag._n 1261._o ridley_n his_o entrance_n to_o his_o determination_n diverse_a consideration_n about_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o protestant_n belief_n five_o pretend_a head_n of_o ridleyes_n determination_n ridleyes_n resolution_n about_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n fox_n pag._n 1262._o hebr._n 9_o &_o 10._o the_o miserable_a proceed_n of_o ridley_n the_o sixth_o disputation_n at_o cambridge_n by_o bucer_n 1549._o martin_n bucer_n in_o great_a distress_n distress_n mensae_fw-la decemb._n cap._n 16._o fox_n pag._n 1262_o &_o 1263._o the_o question_n of_o bucers_n disputatio_fw-la how_o scripture_n be_v sufficient_a to_o salvation_n a_o case_n representinge_v the_o heretic_n of_o our_o day_n about_o cryinge_v for_o scripture_n alone_o matt._n 18._o 1_o tim_n 3_o marc._n ult._n matt._n 16._o the_o second_o paradox_n of_o martin_n bucer_n mattâ—_n 18._o 1._o tim._n 5._o marc._n ult._n matth._n 16._o the_o three_o paradox_n of_o martin_n bucer_n exod._n 1._o ezech._n 20._o hier._n in_o comment_n in_o cap._n 20._o ezech._n dan._n 4._o act._n 10._o aug._n l._n the_o pradestinat_a sanct_n cap_n 7._o &_o lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr baptis_n c._n 3._o &_o l._n 4._o c._n 23._o fox_n pag._n 1263._o a_o altercation_n between_o custom_n &_o verity_n auâ—_n epist_n 118._o ad_fw-la jaâ—uer_n custom_n and_o verity_n can_v be_v at_o odds_o in_o the_o christian_a church_n the_o 7._o disputation_n in_o the_o connocation_n house_n armo_fw-la 1553._o fox_n pag._n 1284._o m._n doctor_n weston_n prolocutor_n fox_n ibid._n six_o only_o of_o all_o the_o convocation_n house_n refuse_v to_o subscribe_v m._n cheiney_n d._n moreman_n m._n elmour_n m._n philpot._n fox_n pag._n 1285._o john_n philpotis_n vaunt_v in_o the_o convocation_n house_n fox_n ibid._n three_o disputation_n in_o oxford_n against_o cranmer_n ridley_n and_o latymer_n fox_n pag._n â—299_n fox_n ibid._n the_o indifferent_a dealing_v of_o cath._n in_o their_o disputation_n the_o foolish_a reprehension_n use_v by_o cranmer_n &_o fox_n fox_n pag._n 1326._o fox_n pag._n 1336._o the_o protestant_a minister_n excuse_v they_o solue_v from_o disputation_n the_o disputation_n of_o k._n henry_n wiâ—h_v lambert_n lambert_n sup_v â—â—p_n 14_o diâ—_n 4._o octob._n a_o pretend_a disputation_n in_o the_o begin_v of_o q._n elizabethes_n reign_n anno_fw-la 1559._o the_o great_a inequality_n &_o injury_n offer_v in_o this_o pretend_a disputation_n fox_n page_n 1924._o three_o question_n to_o small_a purpose_n fox_n pag._n 1919._o diverse_a fraud_n 1._o 2._o fox_n pag._n 1923._o col_fw-fr 1._o num_fw-la 1._o 3._o three_o indignity_n oâ—â—ered_v unto_o the_o bishop_n d._n colâ—_n a_o ostentation_n of_o the_o protestant_a side_n fox_n pag._n 1922._o open_v inequality_n altercation_n of_o the_o bishop_n with_o sir_n nicolas_n bacon_n the_o resolute_a speech_n of_o d._n watson_n b._n of_o lincoln_n another_o altercation_n with_o the_o l._n keeper_n stow_n anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 1559._o the_o issue_n of_o this_o disputation_n with_o the_o bishop_n fox_n pag._n 1297._o the_o inference_n upon_o these_o disputation_n ten_o counsel_n examine_v &_o confirm_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n laufrane_n contra_fw-la berengarium_fw-la berengarium_fw-la wald_n tom_fw-mi 2._o de_fw-fr sacram._n