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A03334 The first motiue of T.H. Maister of Arts, and lately minister, to suspect the integrity of his religion which was detection of falsehood in D. Humfrey, D. Field, & other learned protestants, touching the question of purgatory, and prayer for the dead. VVith his particular considerations perswading him to embrace the Catholick doctrine in theis, and other points. An appendix intituled, try before you trust. Wherein some notable vntruths of D. Field, and D. Morton are discouered. Higgons, Theophilus, 1578?-1659. 1609 (1609) STC 13454; ESTC S104083 165,029 276

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yet_o i_o will_v desire_v it_o as_o a_o favour_n let_v not_o prejudice_n forestall_v thy_o judgement_n nor_o passion_n supplant_v thy_o reason_n peruse_v diligent_o compare_v exact_o and_o give_v thy_o verdict_n upright_o in_o presence_n of_o the_o all-seing_a eye_n then_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o seek_v thou_o shall_v find_v and_o find_v will_v confess_v god_n be_v here_o 28.16_o gen._n 28.16_o and_o i_o know_v it_o not_o thy_o devote_a contreyman_n theophilus_n hyggons_n the_o general_n content_v of_o this_o treatise_n divide_v into_o 2._o book_n 1._o in_o the_o first_o book_n be_v express_v two_o reason_n the_o one_o doctrinal_a the_o other_o moral_a which_o sway_v my_o understanding_n powerful_o to_o yield_v firm_a assent_n unto_o the_o catholic_n faith_n touch_v purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a 2._o in_o the_o second_o book_n be_v lay_v forth_o certain_a egregious_a falsehood_n of_o d._n field_n d._n humphrey_n m._n rogers_n and_o other_o in_o their_o exception_n against_o the_o same_o the_o particular_a content_n in_o each_o book_n in_o the_o first_o book_n and_o first_o part_n contain_v the_o doctrinal_a reason_n chap._n 1._o §_o 1._o purgatory_n prove_v by_o the_o clear_a authority_n of_o scripture_n matth._n 12.32_o §_o 2._o the_o father_n judgement_n touch_v the_o say_a parcel_n of_o holy_a scripture_n §_o 3._o three_o reason_n which_o move_v i_o to_o follow_v the_o doctrinal_a exposition_n of_o the_o father_n rather_o than_o of_o caluin_n luth._o etc._n etc._n chap._n 2._o §_o 1._o of_o a_o trial_n by_o the_o father_n protestant_n in_o england_n condescend_v thereunto_o §_o 2._o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n the_o same_o appear_v by_o the_o rule_v assign_v by_o protestant_n to_o know_v what_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n §_o 3._o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a &_o purgatory_n do_v mutual_o prove_v each_o other_o §_o 4._o the_o ancient_a catholic_n church_n unto_o which_o the_o protestant_n in_o england_n appeal_v do_v intend_v in_o her_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n to_o relieve_v some_o soul_n depart_v and_o afflict_v with_o temporal_a pain_n §_o 5._o the_o collusion_n of_o d._n field_n in_o deliver_v the_o purpose_n of_o the_o ancient_a catholic_n church_n in_o her_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a §_o 6._o reason_n persuade_v i_o rather_o to_o follow_v s._n august_n &_o the_o ancient_a church_n then_o d._n field_n and_o his_o reform_a congregation_n in_o the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o first_o book_n contain_v the_o moral_a reason_n chap._n 1._o §_o 1._o the_o providence_n of_o god_n preserve_v a_o visible_a church_n in_o all_o age_n §_o 2._o this_o visible_a church_n be_v free_a from_o damnable_a error_n the_o protestant_n looseness_n and_o confusion_n in_o their_o delineation_n of_o the_o church_n §_o 3._o protestant_n condemn_v purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a as_o heretical_a and_o blasphemous_a §_o 4._o this_o doctrine_n be_v embrace_v by_o the_o universal_a church_n &_o consequent_o be_v approve_v by_o the_o singular_a providence_n of_o almighty_a god_n chap._n 2._o §_o 1._o the_o base_a and_o impious_a condition_n of_o aërius_n and_o henricus_n who_o first_o impugn_a this_o doctrine_n §_o 2._o the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n appoint_v fit_a messenger_n to_o be_v reformer_n of_o his_o church_n do_v excellent_o confirm_v this_o doctrine_n chap._n 3._o §_o 1._o the_o nature_n and_o use_v of_o miracle_n by_o which_o god_n do_v bear_v witness_n unto_o some_o truth_n a_o triple_a consideration_n of_o miracle_n according_a to_o the_o triple_a distinction_n of_o the_o church_n §_o 2._o a_o miracle_n wrought_v by_o s._n bernard_n to_o the_o confusion_n of_o henricus_n and_o his_o doctrine_n §_o 3._o there_o be_v no_o exception_n against_o the_o say_a miracle_n §_o 4._o the_o say_a miracle_n do_v evident_o convince_v the_o protestant_n in_o this_o and_o other_o point_n §_o 5_o a_o exception_n of_o d._n field_n pretend_v that_o no_o particular_a defend_v by_o the_o papist_n against_o protestant_n be_v ever_o confirm_v by_o miracle_n be_v refell_v by_o our_o conversion_n from_o paganism_n to_o popery_n as_o it_o be_v term_v and_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o gerson_n who_o d._n field_n have_v magnify_v as_o one_o that_o desire_v the_o same_o reformation_n long_o since_o which_o protestant_n have_v late_o effect_v chap._n 4._o §_o 1._o the_o ground_n which_o i_o follow_v in_o the_o precedent_n be_v invincible_a §_o 2._o the_o particular_n therein_o be_v very_o clear_a a_o direction_n for_o the_o reader_n to_o judge_v orderly_o &_o substantial_o concern_v the_o same_o a_o conclusion_n of_o the_o first_o part_n with_o a_o protestation_n unto_o the_o reader_n in_o the_o second_o book_n and_o first_o part_n contain_v the_o untruth_n of_o d._n field_n chap._n 1._o §_o 1._o s._n gregory_n the_o 4._o glorious_a doctor_n of_o the_o latin_a church_n abuse_v by_o d._n field_n in_o this_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n &_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a §_o 2._o s._n augustin_n the_o 4._o glorious_a doctor_n of_o the_o latin_a church_n abuse_v by_o d._n field_n in_o this_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n &_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a §_o 3._o s._n hierome_n the_o 4._o glorious_a doctor_n of_o the_o latin_a
church_n abuse_v by_o d._n field_n in_o this_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n &_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a §_o 4._o s._n ambrose_n the_o 4._o glorious_a doctor_n of_o the_o latin_a church_n abuse_v by_o d._n field_n in_o this_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n &_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a chap._n 2._o d._n field_n do_v unjust_o accuse_v card_n bellarmine_n of_o trifle_v and_o senseless_a foolery_n in_o this_o matter_n caluin_n do_v true_o confess_v that_o the_o protestat_n be_v opposite_a unto_o antiquity_n therein_o chap._n 3._o §_o 1._o d._n field_n himself_o do_v trifle_n and_o if_o it_o be_v justice_n to_o repay_v he_o with_o his_o own_o he_o commit_v senseless_a foolery_n in_o describe_v the_o heresy_n of_o aërius_n whereof_o all_o protestant_n be_v guilty_a &_o consequent_o be_v not_o catholic_n §_o 2._o the_o contradiction_n vanity_n &_o falsehood_n of_o protestant_n some_o accuse_v some_o defend_v aërius_n in_o his_o impugnation_n of_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a §_o 3._o d._n field_n make_v a_o lamentable_a apology_n for_o the_o protestant_n diversity_n in_o their_o censure_n touch_v the_o aforesaid_a heresy_n the_o true_a and_o proper_a reason_n of_o their_o diversity_n therein_o be_v assign_v their_o strandge_v and_o variable_a deportment_n towards_o the_o ancient_a father_n chap._n 4._o a_o notable_a untruth_n of_o d._n field_n in_o propose_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o protestant_n and_o papist_n in_o the_o question_n of_o purgatory_n by_o which_o deal_v he_o have_v utter_o overthrow_v his_o high_o respect_a book_n and_o bring_v eternal_a confusion_n unto_o his_o church_n in_o the_o second_o part_n of_o the_o second_o book_n chap._n 1._o §_o 1._o m._n rogers_n abuse_v diony_n carthusian_n §_o 2._o he_o brand_v s._n gregory_n with_o the_o name_n of_o a_o papist_n and_o traduce_v eckius_fw-la temporal_a punishment_n inflict_v after_o remission_n of_o the_o guilt_n of_o sin_n chap._n 2._o sect_n 1._o d._n humphrey_n do_v singular_o abuse_v a_o certain_a testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n the_o detection_n of_o which_o falsehood_n minister_v the_o first_o occasion_n of_o my_o change_v §_o 2._o a_o other_o of_o his_o unfaithful_a practice_n against_o the_o same_o father_n etc._n etc._n a_o advertisement_n to_o the_o reader_n touch_v the_o order_n and_o method_n of_o this_o treatise_n courteous_a reader_n though_o the_o begin_n of_o my_o alienation_n from_o the_o protestant_n do_v arise_v from_o the_o detection_n of_o some_o egregious_a falsehood_n in_o d._n humphrey_n pervert_v s._n augustine_n &_o in_o d._n field_n traduce_v s._n ambrose_n whence_o i_o be_v excite_v to_o spend_v much_o time_n in_o search_v out_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n concern_v purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a yet_o i_o have_v not_o always_o follow_v that_o order_n precise_o in_o this_o ensue_a treatise_n but_o for_o thy_o better_a direction_n and_o instruction_n i_o have_v think_v it_o expedient_a first_o to_o lay_v forth_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o doctrine_n and_o second_o to_o acquaint_v thou_o with_o their_o falsehood_n against_o the_o same_o the_o first_o book_n wherein_o the_o catholic_n doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v clear_o prove_v the_o first_o part_n of_o the_o first_o book_n contain_v a_o doctrinal_a reason_n which_o persuade_v i_o to_o intertayn_v the_o aforesaid_a doctrine_n chapter_n i._o the_o reason_n take_v from_o holy_a scripture_n to_o prove_v purgatory_n §._o 1._o the_o sense_n of_o the_o evangelist_n s_o matthew_n chap._n 12._o v._n 32._o 1._o amongst_o sundry_a testimony_n of_o holy_a write_v this_o one_o seem_v in_o my_o opinion_n to_o be_v of_o singular_a force_n viz._n whosoever_o shall_v speak_v a_o word_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n it_o shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v he_o in_o this_o world_n nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v for_o as_o this_o text_n do_v imply_v in_o the_o immediate_a sense_n thereof_o that_o the_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n shall_v never_o be_v forgive_v so_o it_o do_v imply_v far_o a_o distinction_n of_o sin_n some_o whereof_z be_v remissible_a and_o some_o irremissible_a some_o be_v pardon_v in_o this_o world_n and_o some_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v 2._o this_o interpretation_n be_v found_v upon_o a_o special_a reason_n because_o s._n 2d_o s._n 3_o 2d_o mark_v entreat_v of_o the_o same_o matter_n say_v that_o blasphemy_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n shall_v never_o be_v forgive_v non_fw-la in_o aeternum_fw-la and_o s._n matthew_n divide_v this_o space_n of_o eternity_n into_o seculum_fw-la praesens_fw-la &_o seculum_fw-la futurum_fw-la the_o world_n present_a and_o the_o world_n to_o come_v as_o be_v two_o several_a and_o distinct_a part_n thereof_o so_o that_o the_o same_o thing_n be_v note_v by_o each_o evangelist_n but_o coniunctive_o in_o the_o one_o and_o distributive_o in_o the_o other_o 3._o the_o protestant_n derive_v this_o text_n after_o a_o other_o manner_n and_o say_v that_o s._n matthew_n be_v to_o be_v expound_v by_o s._n mark_v and_o so_o the_o intendment_n of_o this_o scripture_n be_v precise_o and_o mere_o to_o show_v that_o the_o great_a sin_n be_v irremissible_a in_o a_o eminent_a degree_n shall_v never_o be_v forgive_v 4._o but_o this_o simple_a gloss_n can_v yield_v i_o no_o satisfaction_n for_o though_o it_o be_v the_o purpose_n of_o our_o lord_n to_o declare_v that_o one_o sin_n shall_v never_o be_v forgive_v yet_o he_o express_v himself_o by_o such_o a_o distinction_n as_o do_v manifest_o enforce_v the_o remission_n of_o some_o sin_n in_o the_o future_a life_n and_o forasmuchas_fw-es s._n matthew_n deal_v more_o copious_o herein_o then_o s._n mark_v there_o be_v no_o reason_n why_o the_o first_o shall_v be_v contract_v by_o the_o second_o but_o rather_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o enlarge_v the_o second_o by_o the_o first_o 5._o neither_o do_v it_o seem_v a_o probable_a conceit_n unto_o i_o though_o it_o be_v entertain_v by_o many_o that_o our_o saviour_n do_v not_o make_v a_o partition_n of_o sin_n some_o to_o be_v remit_v in_o this_o world_n and_o some_o in_o the_o next_o but_z use_v a_o exaggeration_n to_o show_v the_o irremissibillity_n of_o one_o sin_n as_o if_o i_o shall_v say_v a_o barren_a woman_n shall_v not_o bear_v a_o child_n neither_o in_o this_o world_n nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v for_o though_o the_o word_n do_v speak_v 7.46_o speak_v io._n 7.46_o as_o never_o man_n speak_v in_o respect_n of_o majesty_n gravity_n and_o power_n yet_o he_o do_v not_o so_o decline_v the_o accustom_a manner_n of_o speech_n as_o that_o he_o will_v speak_v against_o the_o rule_n of_o prudency_n and_o moral_a understanding_n as_o this_o speech_n be_v if_o it_o be_v sense_v in_o this_o manner_n and_o who_o will_v not_o esteem_v he_o to_o be_v a_o ridiculous_a and_o absurd_a orator_n that_o shall_v say_v this_o woman_n shall_v not_o bear_v a_o child_n in_o this_o world_n neither_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v 6._o wherefore_o see_v that_o the_o protestant_n exposition_n be_v form_v against_o discretion_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o warrantable_a by_o any_o other_o parcel_n of_o scripture_n which_o be_v to_o be_v interpret_v in_o this_o manner_n i_o be_v fearful_a to_o be_v entangle_v by_o their_o collusion_n and_o because_o i_o will_v deal_v unpartial_o in_o a_o matter_n of_o such_o consequence_n as_o this_o be_v i_o hold_v a_o very_a indifferent_a course_n whereby_o i_o may_v not_o attribute_v any_o thing_n unto_o my_o own_o judgement_n nor_o yet_o detract_v from_o their_o estimation_n and_o therefore_o i_o remit_v this_o point_n unto_o the_o decision_n of_o the_o bless_a father_n know_v well_o that_o it_o be_v a_o precept_n of_o the_o high_a 32.7_o high_a deut._n 32.7_o ask_v the_o father_n and_o they_o shall_v tell_v thou_o the_o ancient_n and_o they_o shall_v show_v thou_o and_o thus_o do_v d._n toby_n matthew_n apply_v this_o text_n campiani_n text_n see_v d._n humphrey_n in_o resp_n ad_fw-la 5._o rat_n edm._n campiani_n when_o he_o flourish_v in_o his_o concionall_a answer_n to_o remove_v that_o disgrace_n which_o 5._o which_o rat._n 5._o edm._n campian_n have_v fasten_v upon_o he_o and_o not_o unjust_o as_o many_o man_n conceive_v 7._o beside_o since_o it_o be_v the_o monition_n of_o s._n 14.32_o s._n 1._o cor._n 14.32_o paul_n that_o the_o spirit_n of_o prophet_n be_v subject_a unto_o the_o prophet_n the_o rule_n of_o equity_n do_v prescribe_v that_o in_o the_o interpretation_n of_o holy_a write_v the_o few_o shall_v yield_v unto_o the_o most_o and_o the_o late_a unto_o the_o former_a they_o also_o be_v more_o competent_a judge_n to_o determine_v a_o strife_n who_o never_o be_v actor_n personal_o in_o the_o contention_n §._o 2._o the_o father_n judgement_n of_o this_o scripture_n 1._o i_o be_v assure_v by_o d._n 170._o d._n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 170._o field_n that_o s._n
augustine_n i_o be_o bold_a to_o entreat_v his_o leave_n to_o honour_n augustine_n with_o the_o name_n of_o saint_n howsoever_o he_o have_v not_o once_o vouchsafe_v in_o his_o four_o book_n to_o grace_v he_o or_o any_o father_n with_o this_o glorious_a title_n be_v the_o great_a of_o all_o the_o father_n and_o worthy_a divine_a that_o the_o church_n of_o god_n ever_o have_v since_o the_o apostle_n time_n wherefore_o i_o be_v embolden_v to_o rest_v secure_o in_o his_o excellent_a resolution_n which_o here_o ensue_v 24._o ensue_v de_fw-fr civit_n dei_fw-la l._n 21._o c._n 24._o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n or_o of_o godly_a person_n be_v hear_v for_o some_o man_n decease_v out_o of_o this_o world_n but_o yet_o for_o such_o only_o as_o be_v regenerate_v in_o christ_n do_v neither_o live_v so_o ill_o that_o 〈◊〉_d they_o be_v make_v unworthy_a of_o mercy_n nor_o yet_o so_o well_o 〈◊〉_d that_o they_o have_v no_o need_n thereof_o at_o the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o dead_a there_o shall_v be_v some_o find_v to_o who_o mercy_n shall_v be_v grant_v that_o whereas_o their_o soul_n have_v suffer_v purgatory_n suffer_v purgatory_n pain_n after_o death_n they_o shall_v not_o be_v cast_v into_o everlasting_a fire_n neque_fw-la enim_fw-la veraciter_fw-la diceretur_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o it_o can_v not_o be_v say_v true_o of_o some_o man_n that_o their_o sin_n shall_v not_o be_v forgive_v in_o this_o world_n nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v unless_o there_o shall_v be_v some_o man_n who_o though_o they_o be_v not_o pardon_v in_o this_o world_n yet_o they_o shall_v be_v pardon_v in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v so_o he_o in_o who_o profound_a and_o judicious_a apprehension_n there_o be_v a_o penal_a estate_n of_o soul_n temporal_o afflict_v after_o their_o dissolution_n from_o the_o body_n if_o there_o be_v any_o truth_n in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n itself_o which_o some_o protestant_n have_v be_v more_o ready_a to_o abjure_v then_o to_o relinquish_v their_o own_o 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infirmity_n attend_v upon_o the_o condition_n of_o mankind_n 6._o the_o sentence_n of_o s._n bernard_n be_v this_o cantic_a this_o serm._n 66._o in_o cantic_a these_o man_n viz_n the_o sect_n the_o progenitour_n of_o the_o waldensian_a sect_n henrician_n etc._n etc._n do_v not_o believe_v that_o there_o remain_v a_o purgatory_n after_o death_n but_o that_o the_o soul_n be_v separate_v from_o the_o body_n do_v pass_v immediate_o either_o unto_o rest_n or_o unto_o damnation_n let_v they_o ask_v therefore_o of_o he_o that_o say_v there_o be_v a_o sin_n which_o shall_v not_o be_v remit_v neither_o in_o this_o world_n nor_o in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v why_o he_o speak_v thus_o if_o there_o remain_v no_o forgiveness_n nor_o purgation_n of_o sin_n in_o the_o world_n to_o come_v §._o 3._o my_o reason_n to_o follow_v the_o doctrinal_a exposition_n of_o the_o father_n and_o chief_o where_o they_o consent_v rather_o then_o of_o zanch_n luth_o zvingl_n calv_n etc._n etc._n 1._o when_o i_o 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more_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o sundry_a protestant_n and_o special_o of_o two_o who_o name_n be_v sometime_o full_a of_o reverence_n in_o my_o thought_n 3._o the_o first_o be_v d._n humphrey_n who_o high_o respect_a answer_n to_o edm._n campian_n draw_v to_o a_o conclusion_n with_o this_o sentence_n thrasilaus_n in_o his_o mad_a humour_n take_v all_o the_o ship_n which_o he_o behold_v in_o the_o attic_a haven_n to_o be_v his_o own_o though_o he_o possess_v not_o any_o vessel_n such_o be_v the_o frenzy_n of_o our_o romanist_n yea_o great_a also_o because_o they_o see_v and_o yet_o see_v they_o dissemble_v that_o they_o be_v destitute_a of_o all_o defence_n from_o the_o father_n thus_o to_o clear_v himself_o from_o that_o folly_n which_o 5._o which_o rat._n 5._o edm._n campian_n object_v unto_o he_o and_o unto_o m._n jewel_n his_o dear_a achates_n he_o stretch_v his_o stile_n until_o it_o break_v into_o a_o vast_a and_o notable_a untruth_n 4._o the_o second_o be_v d._n field_n who_o praise_n be_v in_o the_o gospel_n of_o england_n a_o man_n upon_o who_o the_o eye_n of_o our_o oxford_n our_o oxford_n university_n be_v cast_v as_o a_o sans_o pareill_n of_o this_o age_n for_o subtle_a dispute_n and_o profound_a science_n we_o reverence_v say_v 148._o say_v pag._n 148._o he_o and_o honour_v the_o father_n much_o more_o than_o the_o romanist_n do_v etc._n etc._n again_o mark_fw-mi again_o pag._n 204._o in_o mark_fw-mi though_o luther_n and_o the_o rest_n in_o the_o beginning_n do_v seem_v to_o decline_v the_o trial_n by_o the_o father_n because_o the_o corruption_n of_o their_o writing_n be_v so_o many_o as_o can_v not_o be_v discover_v at_o the_o first_o yet_o now_o have_v find_v out_o by_o the_o help_n of_o so_o many_o learned_a man_n both_o of_o our_o adversary_n and_o amongst_o ourselves_o who_o have_v travail_v in_o that_o kind_n which_o be_v their_o undoubted_a work_n and_o which_o be_v doubtful_a or_o undoubtful_o forge_v not●_n not●_n we_o willing_o admit_v 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which_o in_o the_o name_n of_o all_o and_o in_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o chief_a be_v so_o free_o recommend_v unto_o the_o world_n 6._o final_o i_o conclude_v with_o that_o famous_a prescription_n of_o s._n pelag_n s._n contra_fw-la julian._n pelag_n augustine_n say_v let_v we_o refer_v ourselves_o unto_o the_o ancient_n who_o be_v offend_v neither_o with_o we_o nor_o you_o but_o what_o they_o find_v in_o the_o church_n they_o retain_v and_o what_o they_o learn_v they_o teach_v and_o what_o they_o receive_v of_o their_o father_n they_o deliver_v unto_o their_o child_n thus_o the_o question_n be_v translate_v à_fw-la jure_fw-la ad_fw-la factum_fw-la from_o the_o right_n unto_o the_o fact_n for_o all_o wise_a and_o ingenious_a man_n will_v easy_o discern_v that_o in_o this_o case_n and_o many_o like_a unto_o it_o the_o late_a which_o be_v more_o clear_a will_v lead_v we_o unto_o the_o former_a which_o seem_v more_o obscure_a §._o 2._o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v derive_v from_o the_o bless_a apostle_n 1._o i_o considere_v that_o one_o thing_n may_v have_v a_o double_a proof_n to_o wit_n by_o scripture_n and_o by_o tradition_n also_o and_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o the_o most_o holy_a and_o most_o bless_a irenaeus_n as_o he_o be_v true_o 34._o true_o epiphan_n heres_fw-la 34._o call_v confute_v the_o valentinian_o first_o by_o the_o evidence_n of_o scripture_n and_o second_o by_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o special_o in_o the_o roman_a church_n unto_o which_o as_o he_o 3._o he_o lib._n 3._o cap._n 3._o say_v all_o christian_n must_v necessary_o repair_v because_o she_o be_v of_o more_o powerful_a principallity_n than_o the_o rest_n a_o point_n very_o remarqueable_a by_o the_o way_n for_o upon_o my_o knowledge_n it_o drive_v the_o protestant_n unto_o many_o dishonest_a and_o impertinent_a evasion_n 2._o i_o may_v give_v instance_n in_o sundry_a doctrine_n which_o admit_v this_o double_a proof_n and_o therefore_o i_o be_v desirous_a to_o understand_v why_o d._n 241._o d._n pag._n 240._o 241._o field_n among_o other_o particular_n shall_v esteem_v it_o a_o folly_n and_o a_o inconstancy_n in_o his_o romanist_n to_o say_v that_o purgatory_n be_v hold_v by_o tradition_n and_o yet_o it_o be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n also_o 3._o but_o forasmuch_o as_o i_o see_v that_o his_o desire_n to_o contradict_v do_v transport_v he_o beyond_o his_o reason_n to_o conceive_v i_o pass_v over_o this_o matter_n and_o i_o come_v unto_o a_o other_o sentence_n fit_a for_o my_o purpose_n which_o he_o afford_v with_o great_a equity_n and_o moderation_n viz._n 232._o viz._n pag._n 232._o it_o be_v not_o the_o writing_n which_o give_v thing_n their_o authority_n but_o the_o worth_n and_o credit_n of_o he_o that_o deliver_v they_o though_o but_o by_o word_n and_o lively_a voice_n alone_o and_o the_o papist_n have_v good_a reason_n to_o equal_v their_o tradition_n unto_o the_o write_a word_n if_o they_o can_v prove_v any_o such_o unwritten_a 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be_v the_o chieftayn_n of_o divine_n as_o caluin_n do_v agnize_v and_o the_o hammer_n of_o heretic_n as_o he_o be_v confess_v by_o the_o public_a voice_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n give_v i_o this_o solid_a clear_a and_o ponderous_a information_n apost_n information_n serm._n 32._o de_fw-fr verb._n apost_n there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o by_o the_o prayer_n of_o holy_a church_n and_o by_o the_o healthful_a sacrifice_n and_o by_o alm_n the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a be_v relieve_v that_o god_n may_v deal_v more_o merciful_o with_o they_o than_o their_o sin_n have_v deserve_v for_o this_o be_v deliver_v by_o our_o father_n be_v observe_v by_o the_o universal_a church_n 6._o here_o i_o consider_v with_o myself_o that_o whereas_o tradition_n have_v a_o quadruple_a distinction_n first_o from_o their_o author_n into_o divine_a apostolical_a and_o ecclesiastical_a second_o from_o their_o matter_n into_o doctrinal_a moral_a and_o ceremonial_a three_o from_o their_o place_n into_o general_n and_o particular_a four_o from_o their_o time_n into_o perpetual_a and_o temporal_a that_o s._n augustine_n do_v entreat_v here_o of_o a_o apostolical_a tradition_n doctrinal_a general_a &_o perpetual_a and_o the_o reason_n which_o persuade_v i_o to_o conceive_v so_o be_v many_o but_o principal_o these_o three_o which_o here_o ensue_v first_o because_o he_o do_v not_o say_v inventum_fw-la but_o faith_n but_o tradere_fw-la tradita_fw-la by_o a_o perpetual_a succession_n be_v a_o infallible_a note_n of_o the_o catholic_n faith_n traditum_fw-la not_o invent_v but_o deliver_v by_o our_o father_n according_a to_o the_o sweet_a and_o sure_a prescription_n of_o 27._o of_o cap._n 27._o vincentius_n lirinensis_n in_o his_o little_a golden_a book_n against_o the_o innovation_n of_o profane_a heresy_n 6._o heresy_n 1._o tim._n 6._o custodi_fw-la depositum_fw-la etc._n etc._n keep_v that_o which_o be_v commit_v unto_o thou_o and_o what_o be_v this_o depositum_fw-la that_o which_o
pitiful_a conceit_n wherefore_o i_o direct_v my_o thought_n uto_o these_o 4._o consideration_n which_o here_o ensue_v first_o that_o it_o be_v a_o vanity_n in_o we_o protestant_n sometime_o to_o other_o to_o so_o do_v d._n field_n here_o and_o zanch._n de_fw-fr natura_fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 4._o and_o other_o accept_v this_o liturgy_n as_o compose_v by_o s._n chrysostome_n and_o sometime_o to_o 235._o to_o so_o do_v m._n jewel_n &_o m._n powell_n de_fw-fr antichr_n p._n 235._o reject_v it_o for_o our_o own_o advantadge_n because_o we_o can_v not_o just_o insist_v upon_o the_o testimony_n of_o any_o author_n by_o way_n of_o proof_n which_o we_o ourselves_o deny_v to_o be_v deliver_v by_o he_o for_o though_o it_o have_v force_n against_o he_o that_o admit_v it_o yet_o it_o be_v of_o no_o efficacy_n for_o he_o that_o refuse_v it_o second_o that_o s._n cor._n s._n iwetur_fw-la mortuus_fw-la non_fw-la lachrymis_fw-la sed_fw-la pr●cibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n hom._n 41._o in_o epist_n 1._o ad_fw-la cor._n chrysostome_n do_v pray_v and_o exhort_v other_o to_o pray_v for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a and_o therefore_o in_o all_o probability_n his_o liturgy_n and_o his_o doctrine_n do_v conspire_v substantial_o in_o this_o issue_n three_o i_o find_v that_o when_o the_o church_n offer_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n for_o the_o apostle_n martyr_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v by_o way_n of_o missae_fw-la of_o see_v gabriel_n biel_n lect_n 85._o in_o can._n missae_fw-la thanskgiving_n not_o of_o petition_n and_o this_o be_v confirm_v unto_o i_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n viz._n the_o faithful_a do_v know_v by_o the_o instruction_n of_o the_o church_n that_o we_o pray_v not_o for_o martyr_n as_o we_o pray_v for_o other_o man_n that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o martyr_n be_v recognize_v by_o we_o as_o citizen_n of_o the_o heavenly_a kingdom_n but_o we_o pray_v for_o other_o as_o be_v yet_o in_o temporal_a pain_n or_o at_o least_o conceive_v to_o be_v so_o by_o we_o and_o thus_o to_o wit_n respective_o unto_o this_o end_n we_o make_v our_o supplication_n unto_o god_n in_o their_o behalf_n farther_n as_o it_o be_v not_o absurd_o deliver_v say_v place_n say_v parte_fw-la 1._o lect_v 2._o super_fw-la marcum_fw-la see_v biel._n in_o the_o aforesaid_a place_n gerson_n by_o the_o learned_a divine_n that_o there_o be_v a_o addition_n or_o increase_v of_o accidental_a felicity_n in_o the_o saint_n so_o it_o be_v not_o inconvenient_a if_o in_o this_o respect_n also_o we_o recommend_v they_o unto_o god_n in_o our_o devotion_n 3._o fourthly_a though_o d._n field_n in_o his_o great_a wisdom_n than_o integrity_n do_v conceal_v it_o and_o so_o the_o tempter_n make_v his_o assault_n upon_o our_o saviour_n cast_v thyself_o down_o headlong_o for_o it_o be_v write_v 4._o matth._n 4._o he_o shall_v geve_v his_o angel_n charge_n over_o thou_o that_o thou_o dash_v not_o thy_o foot_n against_o a_o stone_n but_o he_o omit_v a_o principal_a point_n viz._n that_o they_o may_v keep_v thou_o in_o all_o thy_o way_n yet_o s._n chrysostome_n in_o the_o same_o liturgy_n do_v plain_o refute_v his_o pretence_a exposition_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a for_o thus_o he_o say_v by_o the_o supplication_n of_o these_o patriarch_n apostle_n etc._n etc._n have_v respect_n unto_o we_o o_o lord_n like_n if_o d._n field_n will_v stand_v unto_o this_o liturgy_n to_o gather_v the_o sense_n of_o antiquity_n by_o it_o he_o must_v admit_v also_o such_o a_o exaltation_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n as_o will_v hardly_o stand_v with_o his_o like_n and_o he_o add_v immediate_o remember_v all_o the_o faithful_a depart_v who_o sleep_n in_o the_o hope_n of_o resurrection_n and_o make_v they_o to_o be_v at_o rest_n where_o the_o light_n of_o thy_o countenance_n be_v see_v 4._o thus_o s._n augustine_n and_o s._n chrysostome_n if_o their_o say_n be_v full_o relate_v and_o true_o weigh_v do_v hold_v a_o just_a correspondency_n herein_o and_o each_o of_o they_o in_o the_o essential_a point_n do_v follow_v the_o instruction_n of_o the_o same_o church_n wherefore_o though_o 8._o though_o contra_fw-la henric._n 8._o luther_n do_v base_o esteem_v of_o a_o thousand_o augustine_n and_o cyprian_n if_o they_o be_v repugnant_a unto_o his_o judgement_n in_o the_o scripture_n yet_o i_o see_v necessary_a reason_n why_o i_o shall_v prefer_v one_o augustine_n before_o ten_o thousand_o luther_n field_n and_o all_o such_o as_o be_v exorbitant_o carry_v against_o the_o stream_n and_o course_n of_o the_o ancient_a catholic_n church_n §._o 6._o reason_n which_o move_v i_o rather_o to_o believe_v and_o to_o follow_v s._n augustine_n herein_o and_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o his_o time_n then_o d._n field_n and_o his_o reform_a church_n a_o conclusion_n of_o the_o first_o part_n with_o a_o admonition_n to_o all_o caluinian_a reader_n 1._o when_o i_o have_v bring_v my_o discourse_n unto_o this_o effect_n as_o you_o have_v already_o see_v i_o consider_v serious_o in_o my_o private_a meditation_n that_o whereas_o we_o protestant_n make_v a_o glorious_a show_n of_o antiquity_n we_o d._n field_n pag._n 47._o assume_v that_o he_o will_v prove_v the_o papist_n note_n of_o antiquity_n etc._n etc._n to_o be_v real_o the_o same_o with_o we_o universality_n succession_n etc._n etc._n to_o justify_v our_o religion_n thereby_o it_o will_v prove_v a_o most_o ridiculous_a suggestion_n if_o in_o this_o particular_a itself_o we_o hold_v not_o conformity_n with_o the_o ancient_a catholic_n church_n here_o also_o by_o the_o way_n i_o remember_v that_o s._n 53._o s._n heres_fw-la 53._o augustine_n register_n the_o heresy_n of_o aërius_n in_o the_o number_n whereof_o be_v his_o derision_n of_o prayer_n and_o oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a conclude_v in_o the_o peroration_n of_o his_o treatise_n that_o whosoever_o maintain_v any_o of_o the_o precedent_a opinion_n he_o be_v not_o a_o catholic_n christian_n 2._o how_o near_o this_o censure_n appertain_v unto_o we_o protestant_n the_o 2._o the_o see_v book_n 2._o part._n 1_o chap._n 2._o sequel_n will_v declare_v mean_a while_n it_o may_v please_v you_o to_o observe_v with_o i_o how_o plausible_o and_o artificial_o d._n field_n demean_v himself_o to_o escape_v the_o pressure_n of_o that_o difficulty_n which_o be_v to_o heavy_a for_o he_o to_o bear_v it_o be_v most_o certain_a say_v 98._o say_v pag._n 98._o he_o that_o many_o particular_a man_n extend_v the_o meaning_n of_o these_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a 1._o dead_a viz._n then_o he_o have_v deliver_v before_o see_v §._o 5._o num_fw-la 1._o far_o and_o out_o of_o their_o private_a error_n and_o fancy_n use_v such_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a as_o the_o romanist_n themselves_o i_o think_v dare_v not_o justify_v and_o so_o it_o be_v true_a that_o many_o of_o the_o father_n be_v lead_v into_o error_n in_o this_o matter_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o not_o all_o as_o if_o the_o whole_a church_n have_v fall_v from_z the_o truth_n as_o bellarmine_n 3._o bellarmine_n see_n book_n 2._o part._n 1._o chap._n 3._o falfe_o impute_v unto_o caluin_n who_o say_v no_o such_o thing_n 3._o now_o forasmuch_o as_o m._n doctor_n do_v clear_o insinuate_v that_o such_o father_n as_o extend_v this_o religious_a duty_n prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a beyond_o the_o narrow_a compass_n which_o be_v assign_v by_o 5._o by_o insi_fw-fr l._n 3._o c._n 5._o caluin_n and_o 139._o and_o pag._n 98._o &_o 139._o himself_o do_v follow_v a_o private_a error_n and_o fancy_n herein_o and_o that_o they_o do_v fall_v away_o from_o the_o truth_n i_o be_v desirous_a to_o know_v without_o lie_n obscurity_n and_o circuition_n the_o best_a sanctuary_n of_o our_o evil_a cause_n either_o from_o d._n field_n or_o from_o any_o discreet_a protestant_n in_o christendom_n howbeit_o i_o may_v contract_v my_o speech_n and_o say_v in_o europe_n for_o our_o new_a faith_n have_v scarce_o peep_v out_o of_o her_o confine_n whether_o s._n cyrill_n of_o jerusalem_n concur_v absolute_o with_o the_o papist_n in_o this_o point_n 4._o see_v before_o §._o 4._o and_o whether_o s._n augustine_n conspire_v with_o he_o and_o whether_o s._n 18._o s._n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr divin_v offic_n c._n 18._o isidore_n consent_v with_o they_o both_o unless_o the_o catholic_n church_n do_v believe_v that_o sin_n be_v remit_v unto_o the_o faithful_a after_o this_o life_n she_o will_v not_o offer_v the_o sacrifice_n unto_o god_n for_o their_o soul_n &_o final_o whether_o all_o other_o join_v with_o they_o herein_o fall_v away_o from_o the_o truth_n or_o not_o and_o if_o they_o do_v i_o be_v desirous_a to_o see_v what_o one_o man_n there_o be_v beside_o aërian_a heretic_n in_o who_o the_o truth_n be_v visible_o preserve_v 4._o here_o i_o give_v myself_o unto_o a_o long_a and_o earnest_a meditation_n remember_v a_o renown_a sentence_n of_o s._n 118._o epist_n 118._o augustine_n
mark_n 8.24_o who_o see_v man_n walk_v like_o tree_n until_o he_o have_v a_o perfect_a restitution_n of_o his_o sight_n 11._o wherefore_o rest_v myself_o a_o while_n upon_o a_o profitable_a and_o sound_a instruction_n of_o 1._o of_o lib._n imperfect_a in_o gen._n cap._n 1._o s._n augustine_n viz._n god_n have_v constitute_v a_o mother_n church_n and_o she_o be_v call_v catholiqve_n because_o she_o be_v universal_o perfect_a and_o halt_v in_o dead_a in_o therefore_o not_o in_o this_o particular_a of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a nothing_o i_o refer_v the_o success_n unto_o a_o future_a trial_n have_v a_o constant_a and_o unchandgeable_a purpose_n never_o to_o decline_v nor_o vary_v from_o this_o ground_n which_o i_o have_v here_o present_v unto_o your_o christian_a examination_n §._o 3._o the_o three_o consideration_n touch_v the_o protestant_n zeal_n in_o condemn_v this_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a as_o heretical_a blasphemous_a etc._n etc._n 1._o i_o considere_v three_o that_o this_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a as_o it_o be_v general_o renounce_v by_o our_o evangelicall_a congregation_n so_o it_o be_v severe_o censure_v by_o many_o of_o our_o writer_n 2._o hence_o it_o be_v that_o 79._o that_o pag._n 79._o d._n field_n himself_o chardge_v purgatory_n with_o the_o disgraceful_a imputation_n of_o heresy_n and_o yet_o he_o grace_v it_o so_o far_o as_o to_o affirm_v that_o augustine_n give_v occasion_n unto_o this_o heresy_n in_o the_o beginning_n 3._o hence_o it_o be_v that_o m._n rogers_n in_o the_o 121.122_o the_o pag._n 121.122_o catholic_n faith_n of_o our_o english_a church_n spend_v his_o tempestuous_a phrase_n against_o the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n say_v that_o hereby_o the_o papist_n nourish_v most_o curse_v and_o damnable_a error_n and_o that_o 123._o that_o pag._n 123._o it_o teach_v we_o to_o be_v our_o own_o saviour_n 4._o hence_o it_o be_v that_o m._n powell_n in_o his_o inconsiderate_a violence_n assign_v many_o goodly_a reason_n why_o potest_fw-la why_o de_fw-fr antichr_n pag._n 453_o nullus_n nullus_n inquam_fw-la papicola_n salvari_fw-la potest_fw-la no_o papist_n can_v be_v save_v include_v 123._o include_v pag._n 123._o the_o figment_n of_o purgatory_n in_o that_o number_n likewise_o in_o the_o same_o kind_n of_o precipitation_n set_v down_o 23._o 19_o 23._o de_fw-fr antichr_n l._n 2._o c._n 19_o blasphemous_a opinion_n deliver_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n against_o the_o doctrine_n contain_v in_o our_o lord_n prayer_n he_o insert_v this_o particular_a viz._n 457._o viz._n pag._n 457._o she_o teach_v that_o we_o mu_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a 5._o but_o forasmuch_o as_o the_o glorious_a emperor_n constantine_n great_a in_o birth_n great_a in_o victory_n and_o great_a in_o christian_a religion_n which_o till_o his_o time_n be_v plant_v in_o the_o continual_a effusion_n of_o blood_n building_n a_o magnificent_a 60._o magnificent_a at_o constantinople_n see_v euseb_n in_o vita_fw-la constant_n l._n ●_o c._n 60._o church_n in_o honour_n of_o the_o 12._o apostle_n do_v foresee_v in_o his_o religious_a providence_n that_o the_o people_n move_v with_o the_o celebrity_n of_o that_o place_n will_v flow_v thither_o and_o there_o pray_v for_o he_o after_o his_o decease_n whereby_o he_o shall_v be_v partaker_n of_o their_o devotion_n for_o the_o benefit_n of_o his_o soul_n i_o be_v desirous_a to_o understand_v here_o brief_o by_o the_o way_n whether_o this_o imcomparable_a prince_n follow_v the_o instruction_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n herein_o and_o whether_o the_o priest_n together_o with_o the_o people_n supplicate_v unto_o god_n pro_fw-la anima_fw-la imperatoris_fw-la for_o the_o thereof_o the_o d._n field_n talk_v of_o name_v name_n &c._n &c._n see_v before_o pag._n 31_o but_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o her_o best_a age_n pray_v for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a and_o this_o example_n itself_o be_v a_o invincible_a demonstration_n thereof_o soul_n of_o the_o emperor_n after_o his_o death_n as_o 71._o as_o ibid._n cap._n 71._o eusebius_n relate_v who_o be_v a_o reverend_a bishop_n and_o in_o special_a grace_n with_o constantine_n be_v guilty_a of_o a_o blasphemous_a opinion_n against_o our_o lord_n prayer_n or_o not_o 6._o and_o my_o desire_n to_o receive_v full_a satisfaction_n unto_o this_o point_n be_v the_o rather_o enkindle_v within_o i_o because_o our_o sovereign_a lord_n the_o king_n to_o who_o all_o good_a catholic_n wish_v the_o happiness_n of_o constantine_n in_o faith_n imitate_v his_o bless_a mother_n a_o true_a helena_n in_o her_o virtue_n though_o not_o in_o her_o fortune_n make_v this_o just_a demand_n according_a to_o the_o sublimity_n of_o his_o excellent_a apprehension_n 69._o apprehension_n see_v the_o book_n of_o the_o conference_n at_o hampton_n court_n pag._n 69._o what_o be_v it_o now_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o we_o shall_v appeach_v 69._o appeach_v omnes_fw-la nôrunt_fw-la constantinum_n fuisse_fw-la admirandum_fw-la in_o christianismo_fw-la etc._n etc._n epiphan_n hare_n 69._o constantine_n of_o popery_n &_o superstition_n if_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n be_v then_o use_v i_o see_v no_o reason_n but_o that_o we_o may_v still_o continue_v it_o which_o royal_a sentence_n i_o apply_v due_o unto_o this_o particular_a of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o how_o effectual_a it_o be_v with_o i_o the_o ingenious_a reader_n may_v well_o perceive_v if_o he_o will_v vouchsafe_v to_o make_v a_o little_a experience_n thereof_o in_o his_o own_o respective_a meditation_n 7._o i_o return_v speedy_o unto_o my_o purpose_n for_o i_o be_v not_o willing_a to_o eclipse_v the_o light_n of_o my_o discourse_n with_o the_o interposition_n of_o m._n powell_n dark_a conceit_n final_o therefore_o remember_v that_o m._n calvin_n be_v the_o ipse_fw-la dixit_fw-la in_o the_o pure_a gospel_n in_o which_o respect_n it_o please_v since_o please_v in_o a_o sermon_n at_o s._n mary_n church_n in_o oxon._n 4._o year_n since_o d._n airay_fw-fr to_o exhort_v his_o auditor_n persuade_v they_o very_o earnest_o and_o entreat_v they_o that_o they_o will_v by_o all_o mean_n defend_v the_o estimation_n of_o m._n caluin_n and_o the_o rather_o because_o he_o be_v the_o man_n against_o who_o the_o fine_a the_o and_o what_o think_v you_o of_o the_o lutheransi_fw-fr do_v not_o d._n hunnius_n himself_o beseech_v god_n to_o preserve_v his_o church_n merciful_o from_o th●_n infection_n of_o caluin_n see_v caluin_n judaiz_n in_o fine_a papist_n do_v principal_o bend_v their_o force_n i_o content_v myself_o with_o his_o s_z eldershippes_n censure_n viz._n purgatory_n be_v a_o pernicious_a fiction_n of_o satan_n disgraceful_a unto_o the_o great_a mercy_n of_o god_n evacuate_v the_o cross_n of_o christ_n dissipate_v and_o subvert_v our_o faith_n pure_a and_o horrible_a blasphemy_n against_o the_o blood_n of_o jesus_n christ_n etc._n etc._n 8._o hence_o it_o be_v that_o we_o protestant_n have_v sentence_v purgatory_n to_o be_v a_o antichristian_a doctrine_n for_o fine_a for_o and_o what_o think_v you_o of_o the_o lutheransi_fw-fr do_v not_o d._n hunnius_n himself_o beseech_v god_n to_o preserve_v his_o church_n merciful_o from_o th●_n infection_n of_o caluin_n see_v caluin_n judaiz_n in_o fine_a he_o be_v antichrist_n that_o deni_v christ_n to_o be_v come_v in_o the_o flesh_n and_o we_o pretend_v that_o howsoever_o this_o doctrine_n do_v not_o positive_o deny_v that_o christ_n be_v come_v in_o the_o flesh_n in_o regard_n of_o his_o incarnation_n and_o nature_n as_o he_o be_v a_o man_n 6._o man_n institut_fw-la lib._n 3._o cap._n 5._o §._o 6._o yet_o it_o deni_v the_o same_o consequent_o in_o regard_n of_o his_o satisfaction_n and_o office_n as_o he_o be_v a_o redeemer_n 9_o in_o which_o our_o specious_a venditation_n of_o reserve_v inviolated_a honour_n unto_o christ_n 7._o christ_n epist_n joh._n 2._o vers_fw-la 7._o i_o see_v that_o we_o insist_v direct_o in_o the_o step_n of_o novatians_n nestorian_n and_o the_o like_a the_o first_o pretend_v that_o they_o forsooth_o do_v exhibit_v initio_fw-la exhibit_v see_v s._n ambros_n de_fw-fr penitent_a cap._n 2._o in_o initio_fw-la reverence_n unto_o god_n by_o their_o doctrine_n inasmuch_o as_o they_o teach_v that_o he_o only_o and_o no_o man_n can_v forgive_v sin_n the_o second_o can_v not_o endure_v that_o a_o woman_n shall_v be_v style_v the_o mother_n of_o there_o god_n thus_o also_o the_o infatuate_v presbyterian_o glory_n in_o their_o excellent_a cause_n say_v 16._o say_v see_v m._n rogers_n in_o the_o preface_n of_o his_o cathol_n doctr_n num_fw-la 16._o our_o controversy_n be_v whether_o jesus_n christ_n shall_v be_v king_n or_o no._n the_o end_n of_o all_o our_o travail_n be_v to_o set_v up_o the_o throne_n of_o jesus_n christ_n our_o heavenly_a king_n etc._n etc._n which_o colourable_a piety_n and_o popular_a zeal_n in_o ancient_a or_o late_a heretic_n advance_v their_o opinion_n as_o mountibanck_n extol_v their_o ware_n do_v move_v i_o unto_o a_o just_a
his_o triple_a evasion_n 11._o first_o he_o use_v the_o art_n of_o recrimination_n say_v that_o aërius_n hold_v some_o heresy_n wherein_o the_o papist_n have_v great_a affinity_n with_o he_o and_o with_o other_o etc._n other_o tarian●_n etc._n etc._n heretic_n namely_o in_o that_o they_o teach_v it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o eat_v flesh_n and_o in_o that_o they_o admit_v none_o but_o continent_n person_n unto_o the_o communion_n but_o as_o this_o be_v nothing_o pertinent_a unto_o the_o business_n in_o hand_n so_o conscience_n and_o equity_n may_v have_v treat_v with_o the_o apologist_n to_o despise_v such_o a_o poor_a and_o unlearned_a pretence_n for_o first_o what_o do_v the_o heretical_a prohibition_n of_o flesh_n belong_v unto_o the_o papist_n i_o do_v sometime_o abstayn_v from_o flesh_n say_v cantic_a say_v serm._n ●●_o cantic_a s._n bernard_n but_o my_o abstinence_n be_v a_o satisfaction_n for_o sin_n not_o a_o superstition_n for_o impiety_n if_o any_o man_n abstayn_v from_o flesh_n by_o the_o rule_n of_o physician_n we_o reprehend_v not_o the_o care_n which_o he_o have_v of_o his_o own_o body_n if_o any_o man_n abstayn_v by_o the_o discipline_n of_o 2._o of_o carthusian_n who_o gerson_n defend_v part._n 2._o such_o as_o refrayn_v it_o we_o approve_v his_o virtue_n if_o any_o man_n abstayn_v in_o the_o frenzy_n of_o manichee_n i_o detest_v his_o blasphemy_n etc._n etc._n second_o what_o do_v the_o exclusion_n of_o incontinent_a person_n from_o the_o participation_n of_o the_o sacrament_n appertayn_a unto_o they_o do_v they_o interdict_v marriage_n and_o do_v they_o abrogate_v the_o institution_n of_o god_n or_o if_o they_o do_v not_o so_o as_o cantic_a as_o see_v s._n bernard_n serm._n 66._o in_o cantic_a their_o work_n testify_v in_o their_o defence_n that_o they_o do_v not_o how_o then_o do_v the_o aforesaid_a heresy_n assimilate_v they_o unto_o tatian_o and_o unto_o such_o profane_a imp_n the_o author_n of_o the_o treatise_n concern_v the_o 3._o conversion_n of_o england_n discover_v our_o imperfection_n in_o this_o kind_n of_o object_v heresy_n unto_o the_o catholic_n 18._o catholic_n part._n 2._o chap._n 2._o nun_n 18._o lay_v down_o two_o rule_n whereby_o all_o our_o argument_n of_o this_o nature_n be_v abundant_o dissolve_v for_o say_v he_o either_o we_o do_v not_o hold_v that_o which_o the_o sectary_n object_n unto_o we_o or_o at_o least_o not_o in_o the_o sense_n which_o they_o object_v it_o or_o else_o the_o thing_n be_v no_o error_n in_o itself_o according_a to_o the_o sense_n in_o which_o we_o hold_v it_o etc._n etc._n howbeit_o this_o be_v not_o a_o peculiar_a fault_n in_o my_o brethren_n for_o thus_o also_o the_o 2d_o the_o see_v s._n aug._n the_o nupt_a &_o e●cupisc_n l._n 2._o c._n 2d_o arrian_n object_v sabellianisme_n unto_o the_o catholic_n and_o thus_o the_o pelagian_o chardged_a they_o with_o manichisme_n and_o so_o do_v jovinian_a likewise_o because_o they_o then_o against_o he_o as_o now_o against_o luther_n do_v constant_o affirm_v that_o virginity_n excel_v marriage_n but_o what_o pronounce_v s._n augustine_n of_o these_o disorder_a companion_n they_o do_v not_o or_o they_o will_v not_o understand_v what_o we_o say_v again_o 3._o again_o ibid._n c._n 3._o definite_a obijcere_fw-la nomen_fw-la &_o dogma_fw-la alienum_fw-la leave_v of_o this_o foolery_n to_o object_v unto_o catholic_n the_o name_n and_o fancy_n of_o heretic_n which_o counsel_n if_o 2._o if_o against_o d._n kellison_n book_n 2._o d_o sutcliffe_n papist_n sutcliffe_n in_o his_o picture_n of_o a_o papist_n m._n ormerod_n the_o etc._n the_o pictoribus_fw-la atque_fw-la poëtis_fw-la etc._n etc._n painter_n 243._o painter_n de_fw-fr antichr_n pag._n 243._o m._n powell_n and_o other_o have_v observe_v in_o their_o writing_n wherein_o i_o always_o find_v more_o heat_n than_o wit_n they_o have_v bring_v less_o disgrace_n unto_o their_o person_n and_o small_a disadvantage_n unto_o their_o cause_n which_o be_v evil_a in_o itself_o be_v make_v worse_o by_o their_o defence_n 12._o second_o he_o answer_v by_o a_o demand_n say_v what_o council_n do_v ever_o condemn_v this_o proposition_n we_o mu_o not_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a as_o heretical_a but_o this_o simple_a device_n yield_v i_o no_o satisfaction_n for_o as_o 118._o as_o ep._n 118._o s._n augustine_n protest_v that_o the_o universal_a church_n successive_o from_o the_o bless_a apostle_n make_v supplication_n for_o the_o dead_a so_o he_o prescribe_v this_o admonition_n of_o singular_a importance_n viz._n to_o call_v any_o thing_n in_o question_n which_o be_v frequent_v by_o the_o universal_a church_n it_o be_v the_o part_n of_o most_o insolent_a madness_n farther_n do_v not_o the_o solemn_a provision_n of_o sundry_a ●_o sundry_a 1._o nicem_fw-la can_v 65._o ex_fw-la arabic_n 3._o carthag_n can_v 29._o 4._o carthag_n can_v 79._o 1._o braccarens_fw-la cap._n 34.2_o cabilonens_fw-la can_v 39_o tribur_n iens_fw-la cap._n 15._o see_v s._n cyprian_n lib._n 1._o ep_v ●_o counsel_n touch_v prayer_n and_o oblation_n for_o the_o dead_a sufficient_o declare_v that_o to_o impugn_v and_o reject_v the_o same_o it_o be_v a_o heresy_n and_o that_o the_o contemner_n thereof_o be_v guilty_a of_o this_o crime_n final_o s._n augustine_n s._n epiphanius_n and_o the_o universal_a church_n with_o mutual_a voice_n and_o conformable_a judgement_n have_v pass_v sentence_n upon_o aerius_n as_o a_o heretic_n even_o in_o the_o aforesaid_a proposition_n and_o will_n d._n morton_n be_v his_o advocate_n now_o and_o will_v he_o now_o require_v what_o council_n do_v ever_o condemn_v it_o as_o heretical_a beside_o d._n morton_n can_v not_o be_v ignorant_a that_o whereas_o some_o truth_n be_v teach_v correspondent_o by_o the_o protestant_n and_o papist_n against_o heretic_n and_o whereas_o he_o conceive_v that_o many_o truth_n be_v deliver_v by_o the_o protestant_n also_o against_o the_o papist_n it_o will_v be_v a_o extreme_a difficulty_n for_o he_o to_o show_v what_o council_n condemn_v all_o the_o contrary_a proposition_n thereunto_o and_o pronounce_v they_o to_o be_v heretical_a if_o any_o man_n will_v require_v this_o service_n at_o his_o hand_n 13._o but_o now_o at_o length_n m._n doctor_n will_v seem_v to_o come_v unto_o the_o point_n and_o yet_o he_o never_o deflect_v from_o it_o more_o admirable_o then_o in_o his_o answer_n which_o he_o reserve_v unto_o this_o last_o place_n three_o therefore_o he_o say_v that_o this_o proposition_n we_o mu_o not_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v heretical_a as_o that_o true_a antiquity_n give_v her_o approbation_n unto_o the_o protestant_n in_o this_o behalf_n and_o what_o be_v your_o reason_n because_o invocatio_fw-la mortvorum_n non_fw-fr vere_n antiqva_n invocation_n of_o the_o dead_a be_v not_o true_o ancient_a 14._o the_o manner_n of_o this_o speech_n be_v heathenish_a the_o matter_n absurd_a for_o do_v antiquity_n teach_v the_o apologist_n to_o phrase_n the_o saint_n so_o scornful_o &_o to_o term_v they_o dead_a man_n in_o such_o disgrace_n no_o but_o julian_n the_o famous_a apostata_fw-la have_v learn_v he_o this_o lesson_n who_o in_o derision_n of_o the_o christian_n piety_n say_v that_o they_o tumble_v at_o the_o sepulchre_n of_o the_o dead_a 1._o contra_fw-la julian_n l._n 10._o object_n 1._o let_v any_o man_n read_v s._n cyrills_n excellent_a repulse_n of_o this_o accusation_n and_o he_o shall_v find_v that_o protestant_n do_v symbolize_v with_o julian_n and_o reinforce_v his_o stale_a objection_n 15._o i_o pass_v by_o the_o manner_n and_o come_v unto_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o aforesaid_a speech_n wherein_o i_o regard_v not_o his_o exception_n against_o the_o antiquity_n of_o prayer_n to_o the_o saint_n howbeit_o i_o know_v long_o since_o that_o m._n rogers_n translate_n the_o sweet_a meditation_n of_o s._n augustine_n think_v good_a to_o pretermitt_v one_o whole_a 24._o whole_a 24._o chapter_n wherein_o s._n augustine_n invocate_v the_o bless_a saint_n and_o therefore_o whether_o d._n fields_n assertion_n 148._o pag._n 148._o viz._n the_o romanist_n dare_v not_o abide_v the_o trial_n of_o their_o doctrine_n by_o the_o indubitate_a writing_n of_o antiquity_n be_v sincere_a or_o not_o the_o reader_n may_v discreet_o judge_v but_o i_o note_v and_o pity_v the_o unaptnesse_n and_o inconsequence_n of_o his_o discourse_n for_o how_o do_v these_o thing_n cohere_v invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v not_o true_o ancient_a therefore_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v not_o defensible_a by_o antiquity_n 16._o peradventure_o m._n doctor_n want_v sufficient_a leisure_n and_o so_o he_o may_v plead_v the_o immaturity_n of_o his_o labour_n for_o the_o protection_n of_o his_o error_n and_o the_o reader_n may_v well_o conceive_v it_o so_o forasmuch_o as_o in_o the_o next_o 35._o next_o cap._n 35._o chapter_n save_o one_o be_v draw_v by_o the_o objection_n of_o 6._o of_o de_fw-fr notis_fw-la eccles_n c._n 6._o bellarmine_n to_o apologise_v for_o luther_n uncivil_a and_o base_a folly_n viz._n the_o state_n of_o marry_a
hour_n he_o lie_v in_o the_o grave_n etc._n etc._n we_o may_v conjecture_v we_o can_v determine_v we_o have_v semblable_a reason_n but_o no_o invincible_a proof_n 6._o wherefore_o d._n field_n have_v not_o propound_v unto_o we_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o protestant_n and_o catholic_n but_o that_o difference_n alone_o which_o be_v mere_o betwixt_o the_o catholic_n themselves_o who_o teach_v most_o consonant_o uniform_o and_o perpetual_o that_o there_o be_v a_o purgatory_n and_o that_o there_o be_v a_o temporal_a pain_n inflict_v in_o the_o future_a life_n thus_o they_o grant_v the_o thing_n itself_o and_o presuppose_v it_o as_o analytic_a as_o poster_n analytic_a aristotle_n say_v that_o subiectum_fw-la must_v be_v praecognitum_fw-la the_o subject_n must_v be_v foreknowen_a and_o admit_v before_o we_o will_v demonstrate_v any_o thing_n upon_o the_o same_o and_o then_o afterward_o they_o dispute_v concern_v other_o accidental_a point_n such_o as_o be_v here_o remember_v by_o d._n field_n and_o what_o be_v this_o but_o the_o liberty_n of_o school_n which_o may_v well_o consist_v with_o the_o purity_n of_o religion_n it_o be_v a_o exercise_n of_o wit_n without_o destruction_n of_o faith_n the_o sun_n delight_v to_o run_v his_o course_n as_o a_o giant_n 18.6_o psal_n 18.6_o and_o yet_o he_o never_o exceed_v his_o annual_a or_o diurnal_a confine_n for_o he_o know_v his_o rise_n 103.19_o psal_n 103.19_o and_o his_o go_v down_o likewise_o the_o catholic_n may_v liberal_o expatiate_v in_o these_o point_n provide_v always_o that_o they_o contain_v themselves_o within_o the_o obedience_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o compass_n of_o approve_a truth_n otherwise_o 2.37_o 2._o reg._n 2.37_o as_o it_o be_v death_n for_o shemei_n to_o transgress_v the_o precinct_n assign_v unto_o he_o by_o solomon_n so_o it_o be_v at_o their_o peril_n if_o they_o go_v beyond_o the_o limit_n which_o the_o spouse_n of_o the_o wise_a solomon_n have_v prescribe_v in_o this_o case_n 7._o but_o we_o protestant_n for_o who_o d._n field_n have_v advocate_v in_o this_o business_n deal_v herein_o after_o a_o other_o manner_n for_o we_o first_o deny_v that_o there_o be_v any_o purgatory_n or_o temporal_a pain_n in_o a_o future_a estate_n we_o damn_v it_o as_o blasphemous_a heretical_a and_o antichristian_a doctrine_n then_o consequent_o and_o necessary_o we_o deny_v the_o place_n the_o time_n the_o instrument_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v certain_a accidental_a secondary_a and_o subsequent_a respect_n for_o in_o our_o dispute_n with_o the_o catholic_n we_o propose_v not_o the_o question_n thus_o whether_o some_o soul_n suffer_v in_o corporal_a fire_n torment_v there_o by_o devil_n a_o hundred_o year_n &c._n &c._n for_o this_o be_v the_o difference_n among_o themselves_o only_o but_o whether_o there_o be_v any_o purgatory_n or_o temporal_a pain_n of_o soul_n or_o not_o as_o for_o example_n if_o any_o man_n shall_v demand_v whether_o in_o the_o country_n of_o utopia_n the_o soil_n be_v fertile_a the_o situation_n pleasant_a and_o the_o air_n healthful_a i_o will_v prevent_v he_o and_o say_v sir_n there_o be_v no_o such_o country_n and_o therefore_o your_o demand_n of_o the_o fertility_n pleasure_n and_o healthfulness_n be_v superfivous_a and_o to_o no_o purpose_n 8._o thus_o i_o be_v now_o sufficient_o instruct_v to_o perceive_v that_o though_o d._n field_n do_v glory_n in_o these_o position_n viz._n the_o thing_n whereupon_o the_o difference_n grow_v betwixt_o we_o and_o the_o romish_a faction_n be_v never_o receive_v general_o by_o the_o church_n and_o dedicat_fw-la and_o see_v his_o ep_n dedicat_fw-la the_o thing_n which_o papist_n now_o publish_v as_o article_n of_o faith_n purgatory_n be_v in_o that_o number_n be_v not_o the_o doctrine_n of_o that_o church_n wherein_o they_o and_o we_o viz._n waldensians_n albigensian_o lutheran_n etc._n etc._n who_o be_v sometime_o actual_a and_o true_a member_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n live_v together_o in_o one_o church_n one_o that_o be_v to_o say_v when_o our_o father_n wickliff_n luther_n &c._n &c._n be_v papist_n &_o not_o separate_v from_o the_o visible_a communion_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n communion_n yet_o he_o do_v miserable_o collude_v herein_o against_o his_o own_o conscience_n which_o in_o so_o principal_a a_o author_n throw_v down_o his_o gauntlet_n of_o defiance_n in_o such_o manner_n be_v a_o very_a lamentable_a case_n 9_o for_o where_o be_v that_o man_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o aforesaid_a communion_n who_o deny_v purgatory_n or_o show_v any_o doubtfulness_n therein_o against_o the_o essential_a doctrine_n in_o which_o the_o true_a difference_n betwxit_fw-la the_o papist_n and_o protestant_n do_v stand_v most_o eminent_o at_o this_o day_n i_o do_v employ_v much_o time_n i_o search_v into_o the_o volume_n of_o antiquity_n i_o neglect_v no_o mean_n to_o gain_n all_o possible_a satisfaction_n in_o this_o thing_n and_o yet_o i_o can_v not_o find_v so_o much_o as_o the_o shadow_n of_o any_o one_o man_n who_o see_v before_o pag._n 54._o etc._n etc._n how_o purgatory_n have_v be_v deny_v and_o by_o who_o by_o who_o this_o particular_a be_v impugn_a unless_o he_o be_v in_o the_o number_n of_o such_o as_o depart_v from_o the_o visible_a society_n of_o the_o church_n 10_o thus_o necessity_n compel_v i_o to_o infer_v that_o d._n field_n have_v disable_v his_o own_o book_n and_o overthrow_v his_o church_n papist_n may_v triumph_v in_o the_o victory_n which_o their_o chief_a enemy_n have_v wrought_v in_o their_o behalf_n yea_o they_o may_v joyful_o applaud_v the_o excellency_n of_o their_o cause_n which_o enforce_v her_o great_a adversary_n to_o prostitute_v themselves_o unto_o such_o base_a and_o dishonest_a course_n 7._o confess_v l._n 5._o c._n 7._o 11._o final_o therefore_o as_o s._n augustine_n be_v in_o despair_n to_o receive_v contentment_n from_o any_o manichee_n when_o faustus_n the_o most_o renown_a in_o that_o sect_n yield_v no_o sufficient_a 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