Seeing you acknowledge in your Confession of faith that the Sacraments ought only to be ministred by such as are called therunto by ordinary vocation I demand if your vocation vnto the ministrie be like vnto the calling of all others who haue gone before you in the Church of Christ since the time of the Apostles whom both yee and wee repute and hould to haue been Iawfull pastors and teachers of his flock as S. Cyprian S. Augustin S. Ambrose and diuers others wishing you to shewin al points the conformitie of your vocation with that of theirs 5. who their Doctors Seing after the discours of the election of your Ministers Elders and Deacons yee acknowledge that the Scriptures make mention of a fourth kind of Ministers lest vnto the Church of Christ which also are very necessarie profitable Ephes 4. 1. Cor. 12. and are called by the name of teachers and doctors whose office it is to teach and instruct the faithfull in sound doctrine prouiding with all diligence that the puritie of the gospel be not corrupted ether throgh ignorance or false opinion I pray you to shew at what time any Doctors of such calling haue bene in your Church before Iohn Caluin because the places of Scripture noted by you teach and declare that God hath appointed such meanes in his church that it should neuer be left desolate nor yet his Doctrine to decay for wāt of Doctors other teachers 6. Their admission of Tinkers c. And seeing yee confes in the same place that men cannot profit so well in the knowledge aforesayd vnles they be first instructed in the learned tongues humane sciences for now God doth not commonly worke by miracles and that therefore it is necessary that seed be sowen for the tyme to come to the end that the Church be not left barren wast vnto posterity and also that for this effect schooles be erected wherin youth may be trayned vp in the knowledge and feare of God I demand why yee admitted at the first entry of your doctrine into Scotland and yet doe Taylors Skinars and other Artificers who were neuer instructed but in their owne craft and occupation which they left and abiured and out of their owne heades without any further calling vnto the ministery began to teach the people hauing for all their learning and forme of preaching some English books only which yet themselues very hardly vnderstood 7. If the only written word be Iudge Seeing that among other heads of your alleadged fayth this is one principall that nothing is to be beleeued Cal. l. 4. Inst c. 8. sect 8. but what is found in the written word I demaund what testimony yee haue in the same for assurance of your faith in this point And whether the fayth of the Apostles was groūded on the written word or not 8. S. Thomas Ghospell Where is it written that there is only foure Ghospels and that the Ghospell of S. Matthew with the other three ought to be recea ued and not the Ghospell of S. Thomas Or what authority hath moued you to receaue som books or chapters for canonical scriptur and to refuse or reiect others Or if any man deny any booke of the new Testament as Martin Luther doth the epistle of S. Iames what argumentes haue yee from the Scripture to condemne him Praef. in nou Test 9. VVhy Iewes credited Seeing yee giue so great authority to the Synagogue of the Iewes that according to their canon yee admit reiect sundry bookes of holy Scripture why giue yee not the like authority to the Christian church which hath gone before you in receauing such bookes as are approued by her for canonicall Scripture And if the only cause which moues you to reiect such bookes be because they were not approued by the Synagogue of the Iewes why by the same reason reiect yee not Christ himselfe seeing that Synagogue would not admit him for their Messias 10. Churches authoritie If it be the office of the church to discerne betwixt canonicall Scripture and not canoniall as a De capt Bab Luther b In prologo cont Pet. à Soto Brentius and other of your owne masters doe confes why should not the same church be heard of you in giuing her interpretation vpon any doubtfull place therof called in question Or why call yee more in dout the interpretation of the Scripture giuen by the Church then the very bookes themselues Or why prefer yee the priuat opiniō of Iohn Caluin and your selues before the vniuersall and vniforme consent of all Christian people before you 11. Citing only the written word Why esteeme yee Calu. l. 4 Inst c. 8. num 13. that yee haue an infallible marke of the true religion because yee cite only the written word seeing this hath beene common to all heretiques from the beginning Or what haue you more to say for your felues then they had for themselues in this point 12. If Scripture be easy If the Scripture be so easy as yee teach it to be c Luth de ser arbit what hath moued your owne writers to make so many cōmentaryes therupon Or what is the cause that ther is so great controuersy in religiō as we see at this day Yea euē vpon the expresse wordes of the last Testament of our Lord which according to the nature of a Testament should be most cleere 13. Conference of places If the priuate iudgment of euery one conferring Scripture with Scripture be a certaine and infallible rule of right interpretatiō as yee say how is it that so many grosse contradictions are foūd in your writinges gayn-saying not only one another but your selues also as is euident in your owne bookes 14. No meanes to be resolued Seeing that the Lutherans the Zuinglians and the Caluinists besides an infinite number of other sectes doe euery one alleage the written word for cōfirmation of their contrarie opinions how shall it be knowen to any man that would resolue himselfe in matters of religion which of them haue the true word sith it is the true vnderstanding that maketh the word and not the outward sounding of the voice as Christ himselfe saith who obiected to the Saduces Mat. 12. that they mistooke the Scriptures because they vnderstood not the meaning of them 15. Traditions Why deny yee any credit to be giuen to Traditions contrary to a Cal. l. 4. iust c. 10. the expres commandment of the Apostle writing to the Thessalonians in this maner b 2. Thes 2. Stand and keepe the Traditions which yee haue receiued whither by word or by our epistle And also contrary to the doctrne of all the auncient doctors of the church Or how haue yee the Scripture it selfe but by Tradition And seeing yee will giue no place vnto Traditions what assurance haue yee that since the Natiuitie of Christ there is only 1623. yeares Or whither it be lawfull for Christian men to call this point in
without such cōtradiction is sure and Catholike so that of the Protestantes and Puritanes which was streight with the sworde of Gods Church sticked in Luther and neuer since hath ceassed to be by learned Catholike men confuted and hath beene by a Generall Councell also examined and accursed At Trent nor neuer shall be able to get one day of quiet possession but euer oppugned and assaulted vntill it be quite againe dispatched as all other Heresyes haue beene before it is most certainly without all doubt hereticall The 6. Demaund The nature of Catholikes VVHENSOEVER there was such Going out and such after rising of some such wondering at it of others whether al wayes then in talke in books one sort of Christians were not commonly called Catholikes Aug. cō ep Fund cap. 4 de vera relig c. 7 and well knowne by that name And whether the said Christians were not alwayes true Catholikes so at length of all men confessed to bee Victor deperse-Vand l. 3. fol. 34 whatsoeuer smoke for a while their enemis made against thē by putting other names vpon them And now at this time of their Going out new rising let thē say whose name that is ours or theirs for example At Paris very lately a young Gentleman of our nation called M. Culpeper lying on his death bedde the night before he died there came vnto him a countrye man of ours as he saide vpon a message And being there vpō admitted vnto him by them that were about him praying for him teaching him how to dye after that he had done his Masters commendations by by he broke out saide vnto him in these very wordes O Master Culpeper In any case renounce the Catholike faith Now who heareth this and knoweth not what faith that good felow meant as himselfe also would not so haue spoken but that he knew well enough the tearme to be neither strange nor ambiguous nor obscure Or whether should I also not be vnderstoode if I should tel further how the Gentleman died Catholikely notwithstāding that a little before his death he said as in an agonie to a Catholike learned holy man his leader and director in soule matters that stoode then by his bedde side O tell me I praie you am I in the right waie And he assuring him that he was That is well quoth he And will you goe with me The saide catholike affirming that hee woulde That is well quoth he againe and so laye stil a while And anon againe he said But tell me I pray you am I right And he againe with good words assuring him That is well saith the Gentleman againe And will you goe with me Then after his answere a litle silence againe and with very cheerefull countenance the Gentlemen saieth O now I see my selfe that I am right Beholde my good Angell hath most glorioussye appeared vnto me and shewed me the dore open for me that I nay euen now enter in But you quoth he to the good man with whom he talked may not yet come And so lying a while longer with a smilinge countenance gaue vp his happie ghost Iul. 24. Dying I say a Catholique By which name here I aske the Protestant whether they know not what I meane As likewise in all other bookes written now adaies when they happen commonly vpon that name whether they or any body else stagger at it as not knowing whether we or they are meant therby The 7. Demaund The name of Heretikes LIKEVVISE whether they that haue beene of christian men at any tyme since heresyes first rose commonly called Heretiks plainely known by that name haue not alwayes been heretikes also indeed and so euer in the end Soz. li. 7 ca. 4. Iren. li. 3 ca. 15. of al men confessed to be Let them runne ouer the Ecclesiasticall Historyes and writings of the Fathers and bring vs some exception And let them say withall at this tyme whose name that is ours or theirs As in bookes written now a dayes vpon whome that name runneth and that so roundly that the Reader I warrant you whosoeuer he be neuer sticketh at the matter but knoweth well of whome he readeth to wit of them and not of vs. The 8. Demande The Name of Protestantes VVHETHER out of all this tyme since Christs Ascention Hier. cō Lucif Aug. de vtil cre c. 7. Chris ho 33. in Acta Ire li. 1. ca. 20. Lact. li. 4. c. 30. Opt. li. 3. they can bring vs any that in respect of the doctrine which they did professe or in respect of the seueral company with which they did communicate had a new name made of some mans name or otherwise taken vp whereby they cōmonly tearmed thēselues and in the world generally were tearmed and immediatly known thereby but if they were obstinate they were euer Heretikes or Schismatikes as Arians Pelagiaus Donatists c. Againe at this tyme which of vs haue such new names as whose names these be Protestants Puritans Precisians Vnspotted brethren Fellowes of loue Superilluminate Porklinges Lutherans Caluinistes Anabaptistes with many such more And further let them be asked whether they can auouch their common slander that among vs also there are such names as Dominicans Franciscans Iesuites with such other names of our Religious Let them tell vs then what seuerall article of fayth or what seuerall cōmunions those Religious haue and briefly whether it be not euident that they we that are not Monkes be both of one faith and both of one communion that is to say both frequenting the same churches and the same Sacramentes And as for the name of Papists let them shew that it was euer heard of before Luther Sure it is that it was not therefore can it not be the name of vs who by their owne confession were many hundred yeares before Luther was borne and not all that while without a name but then and now Aug. de vtil cre c. 17. to 6. Ser. con Ar. Col. 3 diei nu 2. Basil ep 71. and euer named Catholikes although it pleased Luther to nicke-name vs Papists as other Heretiks afore also nicke-named the true Catholikes our fore-fathers calling them Homousians Caesarians and such like Let them tell you this also why they doe not tearme vs by some one Popes name as Gregorians of Gregory or Leonians of Leo that was when Luther began or in like manner of some one or other So as we tearme them of Luther Lutherans of Caluin Caluinists and others Arrians of Arius Pelagiās of Pelagius c. Why I say do not they likwise tearme vs by the name of some one Pope but generally Papists of Pope wheras there haue bin Popes alwayes since the Apostles times What is the cause of this difference in our dealing Let them if their wisedome can giue me any other cause but only this which bitterly condemneth them and plainly cleareth vs That whereas we haue truely to
the heresie of the Eunomians Aug. ad quod wlt Deum heres 54. that by faith only man may obtaine life euerlasting 54. Of the Pelagians Why haue yee renewed the heresie of the Pelagians Aug. ad quod vult heres 11. teaching that infaÌ„ts may be saued without Baptisme 55. Of the Iouinians Why haue yee renewed the heresies of Iouinianus Aug. ad quod vult haer 81. teaching mariage to be as acceptable to God as virginitie that it is lawfull for Monkes Nunnes to marrie 56. Of the Vigilantians Why haue yee renewed the heresies of Vigilantius denying the inuocatioÌ„ of Saints the honoring of the relicks of the Martyrs Hier. con Vigil 57. Of the Eustichians Why haue yee renewed the heresie of the Eustachians affirming that it is not lawful to go in Pilgrimage vnto holy places 58. Of the Iconomachians Why haue yee renewed the heresie of the Iconomachians Concil Gang. breaking downe the Images of our Lord Iesus Christ of his Saints 59. Of the Beringarians Why haue yee renewed the heresie of Beringarius denying the body and blood of our Lord Iesus Christ to be reallie present in the Sacrament of the Altar 60. Of many other heresies Why haue yee reneued maÌ„y other heresies of the Albigenses Waldenses Wickliffits Hussits of Abailhardus of Almaricus of other more detestable heretiques condemned many years since by the church of God 61. Following heretiques only in some pointes Why haue yee followed the aforsaid heretiks in these pointsoÌ„ly in which they haue dissented froÌ„ the whole church of God and reiected the rest of their doctrine 62. Scottish Reformation Whether your Reformation which yee haue made in the realme of Scatland in pulling downe of the Churches be not rather like to the Reformatign of Turkes and Pagans then to a Reformation made by Christians 63. Churches made Stables Whither in making Stables of the Churches in Scotland so that horses were stabled on your Kinges graues and in diging vp the bones of Christian men resemble yee rather to be Christians or Infidels and Pagans 64. Burning Reliques What moued you to burne the holy Reliques of Saints who were Temples and Tabernacles of the holy Ghost when they liued which among all ChristiaÌ„s since the Apostles dayes vnto this present haue bene holden in honor and veneration 65. Burning the Doct. writinges Why burnt yee the writinges of the Doctors holy fathers as of S. Ambrose S. Augustine S. Hierome and others and yet shame not to say that yee professe one faith with them 66. Depossing magistrates Where is the veritie and effect of your solemne protestations promising that your ReformatioÌ„ was not to disposses any magistrat when yee haue not only raised vproares in the contrie and expelled thence the chiefe magistrates but in your preachinges would plainly thrall all kinges and kingdomes and haue them subiect to the election and punishmeÌ„t of the people setting forth your sundry bookes therupon 67. Libertie of Conscience Why in the begining of your new gospell preached yee liberty of conscience now constraine all men to subscribe to your new doctrine yee them whome yee know to beleeue the contrarie 68. Profession of pouertie Why preached yee when yee first vsurped authoritie to preache that the Ministers of the word ought to profes and obserue pouertie as the Apostles did and presently none in the whole realme are so couetous as yee are not only to giue mony vpoÌ„ land but also vpon planie vsurie 69. Churches patrimonie Why pretend yee to haue the benefices and patrimonie of the Church seeing yee cannot shew your selues to be lawfull heires and successours to them who were the true and right posessors therof before you And why haue yee reiected as Idolatrie all that which appertayneth to them whom yee cal papistes excepting only the patrimonie liuing of the Church Or if there were no Churchin the contry before your coming why pretend yee as patrimony any other thing theÌ„ hath already bene giuen to your congregation by those of your owne coate 70. Building Churches Seeing one spirit could not moue so many of our Kinges to build so many Churches Colledges Abbies and you to destroy the same which of you two may be iustly esteemed to be moued by the good spirit and which by the euil 71. Finally whether these your doinges tend not to the abolition of all memorie of our Lord Iesus Christ yea or no Seing already some of you doe dout in what time of the yeare he was borne as whether in winter or in summer so that apparently your next dout will be whether he was borne or not which appeares to be the end and conclusion of your new gospell THE TITLES OF THE DEMANDES Contayned in this booke of D. BRISTOVV 1 COLLATIO CarthagineÌ„sis pag. 6 2 Building of the Church 11 3 Going out 16 4 After-rising 18 5 VVondred at 20 6 Name of Catholikes 22 7 Name of Heretikes 26 8 Name of Protestants 27 9 Conuersion of Heathen Nationss 31 10 Miracles 34 11 England 38 12 Visions 41 13 Hoâ—or of Crosses 42 14 Vertue of Crosse 45 15 Honor of Saintes 46 16 Vertue of Saints 47 17 Casting out of Diuells 48 18 Destroying of Idolatry 52 19 Kinges 54 20 In all persecutions 57 21 Churches 60 22 Seruice 63 23 Apish imitation 66 24 Priesthood 67 25 Monkes 72 26 Fathers 73 27 Councells 75 28 Sea Apostolicke 77 29 Traditions Apostolike 78 30 Their owne Doctors 79 31 Vniuersality 80 32 Antiquity 82 33 Consent 83 34 Authority 84 35 Vnity 89 36 Keepers of the Scriptures 91 37 Store-house of all Truth 92 38 Old Heresyes 95 39 Where grew their dostrine 96 40 They neuer afore now 98 41 Studying of all Truth 99 42 Vnsent 101 43 Succession 102 44 Apostolike Church 103 45 Changing 105 46 Our Auncestors saued 108 47 Communion of Saints 109 48 VVhere Christ worketh 112 49 All enemyes 118 50 Sure to continue 119 51 Apostacy 119 THE TITLES OF THE DEMANDES Contayned in this other booke 1 PReachers 131 2 VVhence their doctrin 131 3 VVhence their vocation 132 4 If conforme to predecessors 132 5 VVho their Doctours 133 6 Their admission of Tinkers 134 7 If the oÌ„ly writteÌ„ word be Iudg 135 8. S. Thomas Ghospell 136 9. VVhy Iewes credited 137 10. Churches authoritie 137 11. Citing only the writteÌ„ word 138 12. If Scripture be easy 139 13. Conference of places 139 14. No meanes to be resolued 140 15. Traditions 141 16. Thinges vnwritten ordered 142 16. Church not inuisible 142 17. Their Church how long 143 18. The Sinagogue visible 144 19. Time of decaying 145 20. Sucession of theirs 145 21. Condemning heresies 146 22. Imitation of heretiques 146 23. Sacraments seales 147 24. Faith assures not grace 147 25. Value of Sacraments 148 26. Necessitie of Baptisme 148 27. Preachetiue Baptisme 148 28. Baptisme of Infidels infants 149 29. Ceremonies of Baptisme 150 30. Confirmation 150 31. Reall presence 151 32.