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that_o 〈◊〉_d take_v infallibility_n from_o counsel_n and_o from_o the_o present_a church_n because_o he_o say_v that_o the_o unanime_n profession_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n giuâ—_fw-la testimony_n according_a to_o the_o distanceâ—_n their_o time_n to_o the_o scriptura_fw-la the_o latiùs_fw-la patet_fw-la verbum_fw-la quà m_fw-la scriptura_fw-la word_n of_o christ_n 〈◊〉_d the_o primitive_a custom_n be_v the_o oâ—â—_n christian_n engine_n which_o have_v once_o â—â—lished_v all_o heresy_n whereunto_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o he_o speak_v withâ—_n exclusion_n of_o the_o church_n present_v each_o heresy_n for_o it_o be_v well_o knowâ—_n that_o the_o church_n which_o do_v aboâ—â—_n arianisme_n and_o nestorianisme_n 〈◊〉_d the_o rest_n of_o the_o heresy_n before_o 〈◊〉_d time_n be_v that_o church_n whâ—_n know_v of_o they_o and_o that_o she_o diâ—_n by_o her_o pastor_n and_o for_o the_o most_o pâ—_n in_o counsel_n though_o not_o without_o 〈◊〉_d censent_fw-la of_o that_o part_n of_o the_o chuâ—â—â—_n and_o those_o her_o pastor_n which_o liâ—â—_n in_o the_o precedent_a age_n which_o oâ—_n 〈◊〉_d or_o agreeable_a profession_n be_v â—nd_v partly_o by_o their_o book_n as_o in_o 〈◊〉_d act_n of_o the_o counsel_n appear_v â—his_v day_n and_o partly_o by_o the_o tradit_n of_o the_o particular_a church_n wheâ—_n they_o have_v live_v and_o die_v which_o â—â—nner_n the_o church_n do_v still_o observe_v in_o condemn_a heresy_n as_o they_o
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authoritatis_fw-la veritate_fw-la firmatum_fw-la establish_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o truth_n and_o truth_n of_o authority_n and_o contrariwise_o of_o the_o other_o that_o there_o be_v multi_fw-la paucorum_fw-la fraud_n decepti_fw-la many_o deceive_v by_o the_o fraud_n or_o circumuention_n of_o a_o few_o whereby_o heretical_a impiety_n endeavour_v to_o weaken_v what_o the_o catholic_a father_n in_o the_o power_n of_o truth_n and_o authority_n have_v establish_v aug._n sed_fw-la nunc_fw-la nec_fw-la ego_fw-la nicenun_n nec_fw-la tu_fw-la debes_fw-la ariminense_n tanquam_fw-la praeiudicaturus_fw-la proffer_v concilium_fw-la nec_fw-la ego_fw-la huius_fw-la authoritate_fw-la nec_fw-la tu_fw-la illius_fw-la detineris_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la authoritatibus_fw-la non_fw-la quorumque_fw-la proprijs_fw-la sed_fw-la utrisque_fw-la communibus_fw-la testibus_fw-la &c_n &c_n baro_n p._n 337._o ex_fw-la aug._n have_v i_o say_v mention_v these_o two_o counsel_n he_o forbear_v to_o urge_v his_o 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ibidem_fw-la the_o authority_n of_o truth_n itself_o which_o can_v lie_v do_v there_o establish_v the_o thing_n which_o we_o dispute_v of_o see_v what_o s._n athanasius_n have_v testify_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o that_o council_n to_o convince_v heretic_n efficax_n ad_fw-la omnem_fw-la impietatem_fw-la evertendam_fw-la etc._n etc._n infrà _fw-la in_o addition_n ad_fw-la athan._n petit_fw-fr augustinus_n à _fw-fr donatistis_fw-la ut_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la svam_fw-la demonstrent_fw-la non_fw-la in_o sermonibus_fw-la &_o rumoribus_fw-la afrorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o concilijs_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la suorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o literis_fw-la quorumlibet_fw-la disputatorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o signis_fw-la &_o prodigijs_fw-la fallaâ—ibus_fw-la etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la in_o praescripto_fw-la legis_fw-la in_fw-la prophetarum_fw-la praedictis_fw-la in_fw-la euangelistarum_fw-la praedicationibus_fw-la baro._n p._n 337._o &_o in_o eandem_fw-la sententiam_fw-la plura_fw-la p._n 338._o 4._o the_o 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