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B13579	A suruey of the apostasy of Marcus Antonius de Dominis, sometyme Arch-bishop of Spalato. / Drawne out his owne booke, and written in Latin, by Fidelis Annosus, Verementanus Druinus, deuine: and translated into English by A. M.; Survey of the apostasy of Marcus Antonius de Dominis, sometyme Arch-bishop of Spalato	Floyd, John, 1572-1649.; Hawkins, Henry, 1571?-1646.; De Dominis, Marco Antonio, 1560-1624. Archiepiscopus Spalatensis, suæ profectionis consilium exponit. Selections.	1617 (1617)	STC 11116; ESTC S117494	69,215	152

so that except the Churches reasons do so fully conuince you that it manifestly appeare to you that she proposeth to our beliefe that only which is conteined in the Scriptures except you see this I say you will not yeild nor do you thinke it meet that you should yeild being a man of such yeares Thus to stand vpon reasons drawne from Scripture is I say an hereticall tricke For those ancient Heretikes amongst whome as S. Augustine saith it was ordinarie to oppose their reasons and arguments to countermaund the definitions of the Church these heretikes I say did not vrge reason without Scripture but they boasted that they had and exacted likewise of the Church argumēts out of Scripture so cleere and so perspicuous that mans vnderstanding cannot resist against them And the same kind of conuincing arguments our Nouellestes require of the Catholike Church nor will they graunt any man to be an Heretike but such a oneas being conuinced by testimonies of Scriptures cleerly seeth that to be affirmed in Scriptures which the Church would haue to be beleeued notwithstanding he refuseth to belieue This is their doctrine which if we once admit to be currant t' is impossible there should be any men in the world properlie Heretikes For if that which the Church proposeth to be belieued they find not cleerlie deliuered in Scripture although they disagree from the Church they be not Heretikes as they say And on the other side if they see the doctrines of the Church to be cleerlie contained in Scripture they cannot dissent from them vnles they belieue either that God can lie or that the Scriptures of Christians be not the word of God And if they beleeue either of these two things they be not properly Heretiks For if they beleeue that God can lie they are not Heretikes but Atheists if they beleeue that God is true but thinke that Christian Scriptures be not his word they be not Heretikes but Infidells seing they wholy deny Scriptures and as Tertullian saith There can be no Heretike without Scriptures Praes c. 39. And if you say they be Heretiks that deny the Scriptures not wholy but in part then this followes that there can be no Heretike which doth not refuse some part of Canonicall Scriptures And then I aske of Protestants how they can taxe vs Catholikes for Heresy who from the Canon exclude no booke which they themselues admit nor do we find the doctrines cleerlie deliuered in Scriptures which they so boldly and clamorously contend to be conteined in them But my purpose is not at this time to ouerthrow this proud Tower of Heresy which is not to beleeue the Church vnlesse they see with their owne eys that her doctrine is conteined in Scripture 30. This only I vrge that you Antony were come to this last step towards Apostasy which is not to yield to the Churches authority without she make her word good by weighty reasons that out of presumption of your Wit and Learning but especially out of a great opinion of the ten Bookes you promise to print you haue shamefully reuolted frō the Church That which we read of Agar Sara's handmaide Gen. 16. may very well be applied to you Who perceauing that she had conceaued with child set light by her Mistresse For as soone as you had conceaued in your braine that new forme plot of an Ecclesiasticall gouernement and Christian vnion you forthwith contemned the iudgment of the Roman Church to whō you should haue beene obsequious submitting and captiuating your iudgment But it seemes by your manner of proceeding that you be of opinion that in those your ten Bookes more is conteined then in the whole Catholike world besids For you promise many great wonderfull Benefits which by your Reuolt from the Pope shall redound to the Church to witt the suppression of Schisme the vniting of Churches the extinguishing of Heresies the pacification of Princes from open Hostility and the combining of their forces for the subuersion of the Turke with the infranchisement of Christiā Captiues groaning vnder their yoke These are great and glorious things Let vs now see by what power you will performe them As Dauid with fiue stones encountred Goliah so you with the same number of bookes twice told will enter into combat with the aforenamed Monsters The Church say you shall shortly heare my voyce I will speake to the hart of Ierusalem I will call her forth Thus you and yet if I be not deceaued God only is he that speakes to the hart as for men euen the greatest the most learned and eloquent while they inuite men to heauenly matters of themselues can do no more but knocke at their eares Nor do I see vpon what grounds you may be so sure that your voyce should penetrate into the hart of the Church though I see very well that you imagine there is no small force but rather some diuine efficacy in your voyce Well what is that you will proclayme that shall be heard ouer Christendome Let vs now heare it from you own mouth I will say you shortly put forth my ten Bookes of the Ecclesiasticall Common wealth in which principally I endeauour that the Roman Errours may be detected the truth and soundnes both of Doctrine and Discipline may appeare that many of the Churches cast forth and reiected by the Roman Church may be reteyned still in a Catholike sense That the way of vnion betweene the Churches of Christ may be demonstrated or at least pointed at with a nod or finger And that if it be possible that is if it be possible my bookes wil do the deed we may all say and thincke the same thinges and so all Schismes may be repressed that the occasions may be taken away from Christian Princes of oppressing one another that therby the better they may direct their forces in such sort that the Churches of Christ groning vnder Infidel Tyrantes may be recouered to their former liberty Thus you write of your Booke What victories will this your Child yet in wombe get for the Church What ouerthrowes and woes will he worke vpon Heretiks if he may be once happily borne into the world 31. Whose birth therefore you iudge a matter of such consequence that any wickednes may be committed that he may be borne For I pray you is it not a wicked thing to forsake the Church Yes certainly and yet you finding no possibility to print your booke in a Catholike Country rent your self wholy from the Catholike Church that so your ympe finding no other way of passage to life might worke himselfe into the world by renting his mother Againe is it not great wickednes for Pastours to forsake their flock to the continuall tuition whereof the law of God seuerely bindeth them Without question it is Yet you write in this manner It was very necessary for me to leaue my flocke that so hauing broken also these bandes being at more liberty I might be the

A SVRVEY OF THE APOSTASY OF MARCVS ANTONIVS DE DOMINIS Sometyme Arch-bishop of SPALATO Drawne out his owne Booke and written in Latin by Fidelis Annosus Verementanus Druinus Deuine AND Translated into English by A.M. Permissu Superiorum M.DC.XVII THE AVTHOVR to the Reader GENTLE Reader I wish thee to peruse this Treatise with the same mind and affection wherwith it was written We make triall whether by whole some admonitiōs we can reclay me an Apostata by order a Priest in dignity an Arch-bishop and to vse no worse tearmes by nature and in manners a Man sinning out of human leuity and folly We would not arraigne him vpon other mens euidence but make him a course most reasonable both Plantisse and Defendant in his owne cause and the Holy Scriptures with the ancient Fathers his Iudges To whose Sentence and Authority if he yield we will entertaine with ioy his Returne whose Flight and Apostasy we now commiserate But if feare of shame be more forcible with him then loue of Truth if he will be stubborne in his errours and obdurate in his sinnes he shall perish to himselfe an example for others to beware and a meanes of saluation of many THE TRANSLATOVR to the Reader I Thought good to let thee vnderstand Courteous Reader that the Authour of this Suruey in citing the pages of the Arch-bishops Booke followeth the London Edition printed for Iohn Bill The wordes of the Arch-bishop I haue endeauoured to translate faithfully into English and haue not followed the supposed English Translation which indeed is no translation at all but a vayne and idle storish vpon the matter many times very opposite to the Text darke and without sense in so much that it may seeme the Translatour therof either did not vnderstand well the Latin tongue or was ashamed at the true conceits of his Arch-hishop and therfore would not set them forth in English A SVRVEY OF THE APOSTASY OF MARCVS ANTONIVS DE DOMINIS Sometimes Archbishop of SPALATO Drawne out of his owne Booke by Fidelis Annosus Verementanus Druinus NO sooner was your Booke Marke Antony deliuered into my hands by a friend of mine wherein you set downe the purpose of your going but I presently perused it I expected from such an Apostata some new and colourable reasons of reuolte from the Catholike Church When I found nothing but vulgar excuses vsurped by ancient Heretikes of all ages growne by long vsage worne thred bare I could not but wonder at your Proiect how you could perswade your selfe that with a few silly and ill compacted leaues a wickednes of all others the greatest and fowlest could so easily be shrowded And not only you bring nothing wherwith to excuse your crime but so vnwarily and grossely you discouer your selfe that from the steps left printed in your booke the whole race of your Apostasy may not only be traced and tracked out but fully shaped forth It is needlesse therfore for him that would know you to seeke out matters a far off or to listen to rumors euer vncertaine and often false The Rat by his owne sauour is sufficiently bewrayed out of your owne booke may be gathered inough and too much to declare Who you were and who now you are From hence haue I taken an Inuentory of your Apostasy to the publishing wherof foure causes haue moued me First least with the vaine titulary sound wherewith you set your selfe forth in the front of your booke any be deceaued to thinke that which Tertullian writeth should not be true Tertul. de praesc ca. 3. That those are not to be esteemed prudent nor faithfull nor learned whome heresies can peruert The second that by this your example others may become more wary in following your stepps whose fal so deseruedly they dread to behold Thirdly that the English Protestants may learne to be ashamed to glory so much in you whome ouer greedily they admitted with promise to themselues you would proue a fatall writer against Rome They that know you what will they say Doubtles that one of weake sight may raigne amongst the blind that beggers haue nothing but a few ragges to boast of that men are easily perswaded that shall come to passe which earnestly they desire The fourth cause concerneth your selfe who may reape this aboundant fruite out of this Suruey to know your selfe The speciall end of my writing is your saluation Should not I write for him for whome Christ died should I spare my labour of writing for you when God of sheding his bloud for you made no end but with his life Peruse then with a quiet mind what charity hath suggested regard not how sharpe the things are which you read but how true how authentically proued God being the Iudge your owne conscience giuing euidence Your disease will not permit that I should deale coldly or dissemble with you it hath wrought into the in most parts of your body it hath dispersed it selfe into the bowells nor could I search into it lurking in the quick without your payne and feeling Strong must the medicines be that must cure you And nothing is stronger then the Truth nothing more wholesome to a man then the knowledge of himselfe the roote of all euill and errours being not to know ones self Christ threatens that Pastour who knows not himselfe with the penalty of Apostasy which of all other is the greatest If thou knowest not thy selfe Cant. 1. vers 8. go forth and follow after the steppes of thy flockes and feed thy kids besides the tabernacles of the Pastours Which place S. Augustine most elegantly declareth and so as he may seeme plainly to speake vnto you Aug. ep 40. If you know not your selfe sayth he go your wayes I do not cast you forth but get you hence that those which are within may say vnto you he went out from vs but he was not of vs. Go treade you the footing of your flockes not of one flock but of diuers and wandring flockes Go feed your goates not like to Peter to whome it is said feed my sheep Go feed your goates in the shepheards tabernacle not in the pastures where is one flock one Pastour That this punishment is inflicted on your self if you haue not lost togeather with faith all sense reason you cannot but acknowledg We truly haue not thrust you out but freely you went forth of your selfe Scarce had you departed when you lighted vpon steps diuers path-wayes of doctrine Lutheran Caluinian Zuinglian Anabaptistcall Arian different and opposite one to another Proceeding further you arriue not to the Tabernacle of one Pastour but to the shep-heards Tentes being not so much for the number of persons as for variety of opinions many Wherfore now at last looke back by what gate you entred into these mischiefes you knew not your selfe Had you but known your selfe you would neuer haue imagined much lesse haue writtē in the sixt page of your booke I am not ashamed to

cup. 3. to witt the consent of people and notions the authority which was first bred by miracles nursed by hope brought vp by charity founded in antiquity The succession of Priests euen from the seate of Peter the Apostle to whome our Lord after his resurrection committed his flock vnto this present Bishoprick Lastly the name Catholike which not without cause this Church only amongst so many heresies hitherto hath enioyed But say you she smothers oppresseth and destroyeth the aduersaries books by all meanes possible she do●h so indeed like a mother she wisely and piously tenders the good of her children like a shep-heard she lookes carefully to her flocke as the seruant of seruants Whome our Lord hath placed ouer his family forbiddeth them to tast of poysoned meates warily preuenting least such deadly food should be brought into her house what fault is there in all this This is no diffidence but prouidence nor is the weaknes of her doctrine which is diuine the cause of her feares but the frailty and inconstancy of mans mind For experience sufficiently approues nor do you deny that which S. Aug. cont Epist Fund Augustine affirmes That there is no errour whatsoeuer but may be so glossed that it may easily steale in by a faire gate to the minds of the ignorant And who sees not if dangerous Bookes for the vse of the learned should be freely brought into Countries that are not tainted with heresy that scarce truly or rather not scarcely can it be but that they must light into the hands of the ruder sort especially if they should be permitted in such a number as you would haue that is to say to all Bishops and Deuines Pag. 9. that haue fully ended their studies Yea and moreouer to Students and scholers also to see whether their maisters truly alleadge the testimonies of heretikes This were too great a multitude and would make poyson ouer cōmon Wherfore the Catholike Church with great wisedome hath thought it more expediēt that the learned which may securely read such books rather should want this vaine contentment of curiosity or vnnecessary furtherance of learning then that the vnlearned by so common bringing in of such infectious merchandize should be brought into manifest daunger of their saluation 11. Neither truly as you suppose doth this daunger of drinking falshood by perusall of hereticall books belong to the common sort of men only whome you tearme voyd of iudgment and discretion I take it you meane heardes-men shepheards craftes men such like which kind of people notwithstanding for the most part is safest of all of they be not more by others example and authority then by their owne reading peruerted The daunger indeed threatens the vulgar sort but the vulgar sort of the learned In which number are found not a few rash hoat spirits men rather died then imbued with sacred learning that seeme to themselues and many times also to the people learned Catholikes constant when rather they are like vnto men easily remouable from their faith vnlearned apre to worship their owne fancies as diuine oracles Wherfore no Catholike vnles some giddy fellow voyd both of experience and reason will mislike this Roman sollicitude in prouiding so carefully that books condemned be not read rashly and promiscuously euen of those that are otherwise held learned but with choyce mature counsaile and regard had to places times persons and causes And if there be any that would read these books not out of an impious leuity to find out perhaps some better faith nor out of daungerous curiosity by such reading to become more learned but with a purpose to confute them the Catholike Church will neuer deny them faculty if charity be their motiue and they thought meet for the burthen What is there heer done but with great counsaile and wisedome What practise that the Church vsed not in auncient times Aboue 800. years ago more or lesse the seauenth Oecumenicall Synode the second Nicene Canon the ninth decreed that the bookes of the heretiks which they had condemned should be conueyed to the Bishop of Constantinople his pallace there to be laid vp amongst other hereticall bookes You will say that this Canon was directed only to the vulgar not to the Deuines to Bishops much lesse Hear what followes But if there be any that conceale these bookes be he Bishop or Priest or Clergy man let him be deposed and if he be a lay man or a Monke let him be anathematized What can be more manifest Leo ep 48. But Leo the Pope for learning holines surnamed the Great but much the greater by his office with no lesse carefulnes ordeyneth that with all Priestly diligence care be had that no bookes of heretikes differing from godly sincerity be had of any yea and that some of thē should he consumed by fire Moreouer the fourth Councell of Carthage or rather the fifth held in S. Augustines time permitted not hereticall bookes to be read for Bishops curiosities but restrained them to their limites of time Can. 16. necessity Canon 16. ordeyning thus Bishops may read hereticall books according to the time and necessity Is not this practise then of the Roman Church both ancient pious and full of wisedome What will not the reprobate catch at to their owne destruction that are offended with so holsome a custome Aelian lib. 4. cap. 16. The spider suckes poyson from flowers the beetle being toucht with the breath of the purest Rose dieth yea that flower of flowers by whose odour we breath life to the Iewes was an odour of death to death And you Antony are scandalized with the Churches piety in suppressing hereticall books her prudence in this practise strikes you blind her motherly care you calumniate you wrest the motiues of loue to causes of bitter hatred 12. Now as this other saying of yours that the Roman Church for so seuerely prohibiting the books of heretiks may wel iustly be called in question for her doctrine is not only in it self false but in the sequele impious For that which is said of a thing hoc ipso per se that is as belonging to the thing of it self by it selfe is spokē likewise of euery such thing according to Philosophy nor any man that knowes what he saieth will deny it Therfore that which agreeth to the Roman Church of it selfe and meerly for this respect that she prosecuteth her aduersaries books must agree likewise to euery Church that with like industry suppresseth her aduersaries bookes If you do graunt but this once then you must giue sentence against the ancient Church and restore to life all those Heretikes who with their bookes haue beene long since turned into ashes For we haue already declared with what diligence our Forefathers and ancient Councels haue prohibited their aduersaries bookes which care and solicitude Christians and pious Princes haue imitated by their Edictes Iustinian the Emperour being in person at the