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to_o have_v be_v a_o abuse_n upon_o sundry_a misconceit_n set_v down_o in_o mr._n ms._n defence_n pag._n 22_o 23_o 24_o 25._o but_o not_o one_o of_o they_o popish_a except_o that_o of_o wash_v away_o sin_n by_o it_o which_o be_v the_o very_a ground_n of_o hasten_a infant-baptism_n as_o appear_v from_o the_o passage_n forename_a by_o i_o that_o which_o make_v person_n of_o year_n defer_v their_o own_o baptism_n make_v they_o hasten_v the_o baptism_n of_o their_o infant_n whereas_o mr._n b._n will_v have_v mr._n cradock_n gospel_n liberty_n read_v i_o have_v read_v it_o and_o do_v find_v that_o neither_o in_o his_o second_o part_n chap._n 12._o nor_o here_o mr._n cradock_n be_v well_o use_v by_o mr._n b._n mr._n cradock_n pag._n 114._o count_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n the_o weak_a rule_n to_o discern_v by_o and_o then_o only_o he_o leave_v christian_n to_o it_o when_o there_o be_v no_o other_o light_n to_o go_v forward_o mr._n b._n himself_n pag._n 302._o conclude_v against_o 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