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A12700 A brotherly persvvasion to vnitie, and vniformitie in iudgement, and practise touching the receiued, and present ecclesiasticall gouernment, and the authorised rites and ceremonies of the Church of England. VVritten by Thomas Sparke Doctor in Diuinitie. And seene, allowed, and commended by publike authoritie to be printed Sparke, Thomas, 1548-1616. 1607 (1607) STC 23019.5; ESTC S102433 84,881 104

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