EloquioruÌ„ Dei. Tolet. coment in Rom. 3.2 according to Saint Pauls testimonie Vnto the Iewes were committed the Oracles of God these Oracles as Gods pledges were preserued by them saith Cardinall Tolet and according to the number of the Hebrew letters they were diuided into two and twentie Bookes which is the Canon of Scripture now taught and receiued by the reformed Churches The other Bookes which wee terme Apocryphall were neuer receiued of the Iewes for Canonicall Bell de verbo Dei lib. 1. cap. 10. as Bellarmine himselfe doth testifie This Canon of the Iewes was so true and perfect at Christs comming that neither Christ nor any of his Apostles complained of it nay more they cited many things out of the Canonicall Bookes of Scripture for proofe of their doctrine with this speciall character As it is written when as in all the Gospell of Christ there is not so much as one authoritie cited by Christ or his Apostles out of the Bookes which we terme Apocryphall This Canon of the Iewes as it was intirely preserued by them and is now receiued by vs so it is likewise warranted by Christ himselfe for Saint Luke tells vs that our Sauiour after his Resurrection beginning at Moses and all the Prophets Luk. 24.27 expounded in all the Scriptures the things concerning himselfe and what hee meant by all the Scriptures hee afterwards expounds in the 44. verse of the same chapter Ibid. ver 44. These are the words which I speake vnto you which were written in the Law of Moses and in the Prophets and in the Psalmes concerning mee and hee giues the reason in Saint Luke Luk. 24.44 That all things must bee fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and in the Prophets and in the Psalmes concerning me Here then is the true Canon of Scripture deliuered and rightly diuided by Christ himselfe into three seuerall rankes into the Law the Prophets and the Psalmes vnder all or any of which rankes the Books which we terme Apocryphall neither are nor euer were conteined And this was the constant Tenet of the Primitiue Church touching the true Canon of the Scriptures in the first Age. In the second Age An. 100. to 200. Euseb hist Eccles. li. 4 c. 25. Melito Bishop of Sardis In an Epistle to Onesimus numbreth the Bookes of the Old Testament wherein hee maketh no mention of Iudith Tobit Ecclesiasticus nor the Maccabees and this is likewise confessed by Bellarmine Bell de verbo Dei li. 1. cap. 20. Many Ancients saith he as namely Melito did follow the Hebrew Canon of the Iewes Cum diligeÌ„ter de omnibus explorauerat omni inuestigatione comperit hos libros esse à veteris TestameÌ„ti Canone reticiendos Eus li. 4. ca. 26. And Eusebius more plainely tells vs that when hee had made diligent search of all the Bookes of Scripture hee accounted those bookes which wee terme Apocryphall to bee reiected from the Canon In the third Age. An. 200. to 300. Origen in his Exposition vpon the first Psalme saith We may not be ignorant there are two and twentie books of the Old Testament after the Hebrewes which is the number of the letters among them This is likewise witnessed by Eusebius that as Origen receiued the Canon of the Iewes Euseb lib. 6 cap. 18. so likewise he reiected those sixe bookes which wee terme Apocryphall with the Iewes In the fourth Age An. 300. to 400. Hilary Bishop of Poictiers tells vs The Law of the Olde Testament is contained in two and twentie bookes In viginti duos libros lex TestameÌ„ti veteris deputetur vt cum literaruÌ„ numero conuenirent qui ita secunduÌ„ Traditiones veteruÌ„ depâ—tantur vt Mosi sint libri quinque Iesu Naue sextus Iudicum Ruth septimus c. Hilar. in Prolog in Psal explanationem according to the number of the Hebrew letters And there he tells vs further how they are disposed and put in order according to the tradition of the Ancients in this manner There are fiue bookes of Moses Iosuah is the sixt the Iudges and Ruth the seuenth the first and second of Kings the eight the third and fourth of Kings the ninth the two bookes of Chronicles the tenth Esdras the eleuenth Psalmes the twelfth Solomons Prouerbes Ecclesiastes Canticles 13. 14. 15. the twelâ—e Prophets the sixteenth Esay Ieremy with the Lamentations Daniel Ezechiel Iob and Hester doe make vp the number of 22. bookes Cyril of Hierusalem giues the like lesson to the Reader Veteris Testamenti libros meditare duos et viginti Tu itaque cum sis filius Ecclesia non transgredi eris illius terminos Cyril Catech 4. Peruse the two and twentie bookes but meddle not with the Apocrypha meditate diligently vpon those Scriptures which the Church doth confidently reade and vse no other Athanasius tells vs Sunt itaque Canonici veteris Testamentilibri 22. literis Hebraicis numero pares praetèr istos autem sunt adhuc alii etusdem veteris instrumenti libri noÌ„ sunt Canonici qui Catechumenis tantum leguntur Sapientia Solomonis c. Athanas in Synops Nec ab hâc sententia alienus fuit Damascenê° et Athanasius quos Theologi multi secuti sunt Canus loc Theol. lib. 2. ca. 10. Euse Chro. li. 2. ex Hier. versione Eusebio atque reliquis licuit aliquando dubitare Can. lib. 2. ca. 10. The Christians had at that time a definite number of bookes comprehended in a Canon and of that Canon touching the Olde Testament they were twentie two bookes equall to the number of the Hebrew letters and as touching the Apocryphall books as namely the book of Wisedome Maccabees and the rest libri non sunt Canonici they are read onely to the Catechumens but are not Canonicall This testimony is so true that Canus confesseth hee was not onely of our opinion but also drew many Diuines after him to this opinion Eusebius Bishop of Caesarea saith The Hebrew Historie of the Maccabees reckons from thence the raigne of the Grecians but those bookes are not receiued among the diuine Scriptures This Authour is likewise acknowledged in this Tenet to be ours Haec suÌ„t quae Patres intra CanoneÌ„ concluseruÌ„t ex quibus fidei nostrae assertiones constare volueruut scienduÌ„ tamen est qd et alii libri suÌ„t qui noÌ„ sunt Canonici sed Ecclesiastici à maioribus appellati suÌ„t vt sapientia Solomonis et alia Sapientia quae dicitur filii Syrach eiusdem ordinis est liber Tobiae et Iudith et Machabaeorum libri qua omnia legi quideÌ„ in Ecclesiis voluerunt noÌ„ tameÌ„ proferri ad authoritatem ex his fidei confirmandam Ruff. siue Cypt. in explic Symb. Bell. de verbo Dei lib. 1. cap. 20. Quod verò Ruffinê° asserit ex patruÌ„ Traditione eos libros à canone reiiciendos pace Lectoris dictum sit patruÌ„ traditiones ignorauit Can. lib. 2. c. 11. Sicut
Iudith et Tobiae MacabaeoruÌ„ libros legit Ecclesia sed eos inter Canonicas scripturas non recipit sic et haec duo volumina sapientia Solomonis et Syrach legit ad adificationeÌ„ plebis non authoritateÌ„ dogmatum coÌ„firmandum In Praefat. lib Solom Admitto HieronymuÌ„ ea fuisse opinione quia nonduÌ„ generale CoÌ„ciliuÌ„ de his libris aliquid statuerat c. Bell de verbo Dei lib. 1. cap. 10. Ipso ergo sacra Codicis 〈◊〉 pandam tibi Omnes libellos c. vltimuÌ„ nomen duplex cui est Angelum Malachiam Greg. Naz. Car. Iamb ad SeleucuÌ„ Iamb 3. De quibê° tamen nunc dubitare nefaâ— est antequam auteÌ„ ab Ecclesiâ coÌ„muni coÌ„sensu recepti essent nihil piaculi fuit eos in CanonicoruÌ„ numeruÌ„ ac sedeÌ„ minimè admittere Iacob Bill in Iam. 3. Nazian Non oportet libros qui sunt extrà Canonem legere nisi solos Canonicos Noui et Veteris Testamenti Concil Laod Can. 59. Ruffinus as some say Cyprian in reciting the Canon of the Scripture testifies the like in this age These be the bookes which our Fathers haue included within the Canon out of which they would haue the assertions of our faith to appeare but yet wee must know that there bee also other bookes which are not Canonicall but are called of our Ancestors Ecclesiasticall as is the Wisedome of Solomon Ecclesiasticus Tobias Iudith and the bookes of Maccabees all which they will indeed haue to bee read in the Church but not to bee alledged for confirmation of faith Bellarmine confesseth with vs that Ruffinus did follow the Hebrewe Canon but his fellow Canus is not contented with such a moderate confession but returnes this answere Although Ruffinus did affirme that the bookes of Maccabees were to bee rejected by the tradition of the Fathers yet by the Readers leaue hee was ignorant of that Tradition Saint Hierome is our witnesse As the Church readeth Iudith Tobias and the Maccabees but receiueth them not for Canonicall Scriptures so these two bookes namely the Wisedome of Solomon and Iesus the sonne of Syrach doth the Church reade for the edification of the people not to confirme thereby the authoritie of any doctrine in the Church This is likewise confessed by Bellarmine I admit saith hee that Hierome was of that opinion because as yet in those dayes a generall Councell had decreed nothing touching those bookes except the booke of Iudith which Hierom afterwards receiued Gregory Nazianzen writing to Seleucus promiseth him that he will shew him a catalogue of the Canonicall bookes and accordingly beginning from Genesis cites the bookes in order to Malachie the last of the Prophets This authoritie in our behalfe is likewise confessed by Iacobus Billius a Romanist in his Commentary vpon those verses but hee excuseth him in this manner That hee omitted other bookes as namely Iudith the Maccabees c. of which notwithstanding to make a doubt in these dayes would bee accounted a wicked thing but before they were generally receiued of the Church it was no sinne not to admit them amongst the number of Canonicall Scriptures The Councell of Laodicea Wee ought to reade onely the bookes of the Old and New Testament and in that 59. Canon the Councell recites onely those Canonicall Bookes of Scripture which we allowe and the Canons of this Councell are confirmed by the sixt Generall Councell in Trullo and Binius himselfe confesseth that the booke of Iudith by the authoritie of this Councell is rejected amongst the Apocrypha And this was the constant opinion of the Primitiue Church Can. 2. Liber Iudith authoritate huius Prouincialis Concilii inter Apocrhyphos reiicitur Binius in Concil Rom. sub Syluest Not. touching the intire rule of Scripture in the fourth Age. In the fifth Age An. 400. to 500. Epiphanius after he had reckoned vp the Canon of two and twentie Bookes Vtiles quidem sunt et coÌ„modi sed in numeruÌ„ receptorum non referuÌ„tur quare neque in Aaron neque in Testamenti Arcam repositi sunt Epiph. li. de Mens Ponder censureth the Bookes of Wisedome and Ecclesiasticus in these words They are fit and profitable but not reckoned amongst those bookes which are receiued by our Church and therefore were neither layd vp with Aaron nor in the Arke of the new Testament In MachabaeoruÌ„ libris etsi aliquid Mirabilium numero inserenduÌ„ conveniens fuisse ordini inueniatur de hâc tameÌ„ nullá curâ fatigabimur quiae tantuÌ„ agere proposuimus vt de Diuini Canonis Mirabilibus exiguaÌ„ expositionem taÌ„geremus Aug. de Mirab sacrae Scrip. l. 2. c. 34. Has supputatio non in Scripturis sanctis quae appellantur Canonica sed in aliis inuenitur in quibê° sunt et MachabaeoruÌ„ libri De civ Dei l. 18. c. 36. Saint Austen Although there may something bee found in the books of Maccabees meet for this order of writing and worthy to bee ioyned with the number of Miracles yet we will not weâ—ry our selues with any care thereof for that we haue intended onely to touch a short rehearsall of the miracles conteined in the diuine Canon And for a further explanation of the true Canon different from the Apocryphall Scriptures he tells vs This reckoning is not found in the holy Scriptures that are called Canonicall but in certaine other bookes amongst which are the bookes of the Maccabees And as concerning the authoritie of these bookes when it was obiected against him that Razis killed himselfe and therefore it was lawfull by the Scripture for a man to kill himselfe amongst other answeres hee returnes this for one The Iewes doe not esteeme this Scripture called the Maccabees in such sort Scriptura quae appellâ— tur Machabaorum recepta est ab Ecclesia non inâ—tilitè◠si sobrie legatur vel audiatur maximè propter illos Machabaeos qui pro Dei lege indigna perpess sunt Aug. contra SecunduÌ„ Ep. Gaud. li. 2. c. 23. as the Law the Prophets and the Psalmes to which Christ giueth testimony as to them that beare that witnesse of him saying It behoued that all these things should be fulfilled that are written of mee in the Law the Prophets and the Psalmes but it is receiued of the Church not vnprofitably so that it bee read and heard with sobrietie especially because of these Maccabees which indured grieuous persecutions for the Lawe of God In the sixth Age An. 500. to 600. Quarehi libri noÌ„ inter Canonicas Scripturas currunt M. Quoniam apud Haebreos quoque super hac differentia recipiebantur sicut Hier. caterique testaÌ„tur Iun. de part diuinae legis lib. 1. cap. 3. SuÌ„tpratereà alii quidem libri vt Sapientia Solo monis liber Iesu filii Syrach et lib. Iudith et Tobiae et libri Machabaeorqui leguÌ„tur quideÌ„ sed noÌ„ scribuÌ„tur in canone Isid Praenot Elucid de script Scripturis sac c. 6 7. Iunilius Bishop of
Africa excludeth from the Canonicall bookes Iudith the Maccabees and the booke of Wisedome and concerning them he puts this question and resolues it Why are not these books inserted amongst the Canonicall Scriptures Because saith he the Iewes did make a difference of them as S. Hierom and others doe testifie Isidore is a witnes that our doctrine was professed in the church in his daies there are other bookes as namely the Wisdom of Solomon the book of Iesus the son of Syrach the books of Iudith and Tobias and the Maccabees which are read but not written in the Canon In the seuenth Age An. 600. to 700. Gregory the Great did account the bookes of Maccabees Apocryphall De qua re non inordinate agimus si ex libris licet noÌ„ Canonicis sed tameÌ„ ad aedificationeÌ„ ecclesiae editis testimonium proferimus In Iob. lib. 19. cap. 13. B. Gregoriê° authoritate vt opinor Hier motuâ— videtur coÌ„cedere illos non esse Canonicos cum tamen de tis producat testimonia Cathat opusc de lib. Canonicis Secundum Greg. in Moralibus liber Iudith Tob. et MachabeoruÌ„ Ecclas atque lib. Sapientiae non suÌ„t recipieÌ„di ad coÌ„firmaÌ„duÌ„ aliquid de fide Occ. Dial. part 3 tract 1. l. 3. c. 16. Wee doe not amisse saith hee if wee produce a testimony out of the bookes of Maccabees though not Canonicall yet published for the instruction of the Church This is witnessed also by Catharinus their own Scholeman Gregory saith hee led as I conceiue by the authoritie of Saint Hierome did seeme to graunt that those bookes were not Canonicall although hee produced testimonies out of them But learned Occham more plainely declares his opinion touching Gregorie According to Gregories doctrine saith hee the booke of Iudith Tobias the Maccabees Ecclesiasticus and the booke of Wisedome are not to bee receiued for the confirmation of any doctrine of faith In the eighth Age An. 700. to 800. Damascene who was canonized a Saint for his seruice at the 2.d. Councell of Nice tells vs it is operae pretiâ—m c worth our paines to search and know 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Damasc Orth. fid l. 4. c. 18. that there are two and twentie bookes of Canonicall Scripture and as touching the Apocryphall hee termes them 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 they are full of vertuous instructions but are not numbred amongst the Prophets neither were they layd vp in the Arke Nec ab hâc sententia alienus fuit Damascenê° quos Theologi multi secuti sunt Canus loc Theol. lib. 2. cap. 10. This Author is confessed to bee ours in this poynt insomuch as Canus professeth that Damascene and Athanasius were of his opinion and were followed in this by many Diuines In the ninth Age An. 800 to 900. Nicephorus Patriarch of Constantinople giues vs to vnderstand 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Niceph. Patr C.P. Canon Script in operibus Pithei In libro Iesu filii Syrach hac praefata senteÌ„tia legitur queÌ„ libruÌ„ B. Hier. atque Isidorê° inter Apochry id est dubias scripturas deputatuÌ„ esse abque dubita tione testaÌ„tur Qui etiaÌ„ liber non teÌ„pore ProphetaruÌ„ sed sacerdotum sub Simone Pont. Max. regnaÌ„te Pto lemao Euergete coÌ„scriptus est Alâ— aduers Elip l. 1. col 941 that the bookes of the Old Testament were twenty and two And in treating of the Apocryphall bookes hee mentioneth in particular the books of Maccabees the Wisdome of Solomon Ester Iudith Susanna Tobit Alcuinus Abbot of Saint Martins at Tours in France writing against Elipantus Bishop of Tolledo tells him that hee vrged authorities out of the booke of Iesus the sonne of Syrach but saith hee Saint Hierome did testifie that without question it was to bee reputed amongst the Apocryphall and doubtfull bookes and withall addeth This booke was not written in the time of the Prophets but vnder the â—â—igne of Ptolomey and Simon the high Priest In the tenth Age An 900. to 1000. Aelfrick Abbâ—t of Malmsbury in his Saxon treatie of the old Testament Aelfrick of the old Testament pa. 17. 22. 23. tells vs There are two bookes more placed with Solomons workes as if he had made them which for likenesse of stile and profitable vse haue gone for his but Iesus the sonne of Syrach composed them one is called Liber Sapientiae the booke of Wisedome and the other Ecclesiasticus very large bookes and read in the Church of long custome for much good instruction amongst these bookes the Church hath accustomed to place two other tending to the glory of God and intituled Maccabeorum I haue turned them into English and so reade them you may if you please for your owne instruction In the eleuenth Age An. 1000. to 1100. Petrus Cluniacensis after the recitall of the Canonicall bookes saith There are besides the authenticall bookes sixe others not to be rejected as namely Iudith Tobias Wisedome Ecclesiasticus and the two bookes of Maccabees which though they attaine not to the high dignitie of the former yet they are receiued of the Church De author veter Test Epist contr Petro Busâ—â—nos as containing necessary and profitable doctrine In the twelfth Age Omnes ergo fiunt numero 22 sunt praterea alit quideÌ„ libri vt Sapientia Soloâ—monis liber Iesu filis Syrach et liber Iudith et Tob. et libri Machab qui leguÌ„turqui dem sed non scribuntur in Canone Hugo de S. Vict. Praeno Elucid de scrip et scrip sacris ca. 6. cap 7. Omnes sunt numero 22 suÌ„t pratereà et alii libri vt sapientia c. Rich. Except li. 2. cap. 9. An. 1100. to 1200. Hugo de Sancto Victore All the Canonicall bookes of the Olde Testament are twentie two there are other bookes also as namely the Wisedome of Solomon the booke of Iesus the sonne of Syrach the bookes of Iudith Tobias and the Maccabees which are read but not written in the Canon Richardus de S. Victore was liuing at this time and hath the same words All the bookes are twenty two there are other bookes also as namely the booke of Wisedome and Maccabees and which are read in the Church but not written in the Canon In the thirteenth Age An. 1200. to 1300. Hugo Cardinalis speaking of the bookes reiected by vs Hugo in Prologum Galeatum saith These bookes are not receiued by the Church for proofe of doctrine but for information of manners And in his Preface to Tobias hee saith they are not accounted amongst the Canonicall Scriptures Prolog in Tobiam Bonauenture in his Preface before the Exposition of the Psalter sheweth which are the Canonicall bookes of Scripture and passing by the bookes of the New Testament hee reckoneth all those and those onely that Hierome doth sorting them into their seuerall rankes and orders as the Hebrewes doe In the fourteenth Age An. 1300. to 1400. Gul. Occham saith According to Hierome in his
Prologue before the booke of Proverbs and Gregory in his Moralls the bookes of Iudith Tobias and the Maccabees Ecclesiasticus and the booke of Wisdome are not to bee receiued for confirmation of any matter of faith Occham Dial. part 3 Pract. 1. li. 3. cap. 16. so also it readeth those two volumes of Ecclesiasticus and Wisedome for the edification of the people but not for confirmation of poynts of faith and religion Postquam auxiliante Deo scripsi super libros sacrae scripturae Canonicos alios inteÌ„do scribere qui non sunt de Canone scil liber Sapientiae Ecclus. Iudith Tobias et libri Machabaorum In Praefat. Tobiae Nicholas Lyra After that by the assistance of God I haue handled the Canonicall bookes of Scripture beginning from Genesis and proceeding to the end of the Apocalypse being confident of the same ayde and assistance I purpose to write of those bookes which are not in the Canon as namely the booke of Wisedome Ecclesiasticus Iudith Tobias and the bookes of Maccabees This Author is so truely ours in this poynt Nicholas Lyra in prafatione in libruÌ„ Tobia dicit neque eum neque Iudith neque Machabaorum neque Sapientiae neque EcclesiasticuÌ„ neque Baruch neque vltimos Esdrae in Canone haberi recipi tamen in Ecclesia legique ad mores informandos quanquaem eorum authoritas ad probanda ea quae in contentionem veniunt minus idonea reputetur Ioh. Fr. Pic. Mirand Theorem 5. that Picus Mirandula professeth Lyra saith Neither the bookes of Tobit nor Iudith nor the Maccabees nor Wisedome nor Ecclesiasticus nor Baruch nor the last bookes of Esdras are to bee reckoned in the Canon but notwithstanding they are receiued of the Church and are read for rectifying of manners although their authoritie is of lesse account for proofe of those things which are in controuersie In the fifteenth Age An. 1400. to 1500. Alphonsus Tostatus giues his voyce with the reformed Churches Quanquam isti libri ab Ecclesia recipiantur nullius authóritatis solidae sunt ideò ad confirmanduÌ„ et probanduÌ„ ea quae in dubium venerint inutiles sunt c Tost praef in lib. Paralip q. 2. Denique liber iste non est de Canone id est inter Scripturas Canonicas coÌ„putandus quamuis de eius veritate non dubitatur Dyonis Carth. prolog in Ecclesiast Perer. in Dan. lib. 16. p. 742. Although saith hee the bookes in question bee receiued of the Church yet are they not of any solid authoritie and therefore they are improfitable to prooue and confirme those things which are called in question according to Saint Hierom. Dionysius Carthusianus in writing vpon Ecclesiasticus saith That booke is not of the Canon that is amongst the Canonicall Scriptures although there bee no doubt made of the trueth of that booke This is confessed likewise by our aduersaries Dyonisius Carthusianus and Lyra doe not denie the Historie of Susanna to bee true but they denie the bookes of Iudith Tobit and the Maccabees do appertaine to the canonicall Scriptures Ita 22 volumina supputaÌ„tur quibê° quasi literis et exordiis in Dei doctrina c. Wald. doct fidei lib 2. art 2. circa initium Anton. par 3. tit 18. ca. 6. juxt fineÌ„ Thomas Waldensis cites out of Hierome the Canon of the olde Testament in these words As there are twentie two letters by which we write in Hebrew all that wee speake so there are accounted twentie two bookes by which as letters wee are instructed in the doctrine of God and withall addeth Dicit Thomas 2.2 Nichol de Lyra super Tobiam scil isti non sunt tanta authoritatis quòd ex dictis eorum posset efficaciter argumentari in his quae sunt fidei sicut ex aliis libris sacrae scripturae vndè fortè habent authoritateÌ„ talem qualeÌ„ habent dicta sanctorum Doctorum approbato ab Eccâ—esia that the whole Canonicall Scripture is conteined in the two and twentie bookes Antoninus tells vs that Aquinas and Nicholas de Lyra say the Apocryphall bookes reiected by the Hebrewes are not of that authoritie that a man may argue from their sayings as efficaciously touching poynts of faith as from other writings of the sacred Scriptures and therefore happily they haue such authoritie as the sayings of holy Fathers which are approued by the Church but not as the Canonical Scriptures themselues In the sixteenth Age An. 1500. to 1600. Reliqui viz. Iudith Tobiae MachabeoruÌ„ libri cuÌ„ Sapientia et Ecclesiastico à Diuo Hier. inter Apocrypha locaÌ„tur Nec turberis Nouitie si alicubi reperias libros istos inter Canonicos supputari vel in sacris CoÌ„ciliis vel in sacris doctoribus NaÌ„ ad Hieronymi lineam reducenda sunt taÌ„verba Conciliorum quam DoctoruÌ„ sic vt libri isti non sint Canonici id est regulares ad firmandâ—m ea quae sunt fidei possunt tamen dici Canonici id est regulares ad aedificationeÌ„ FideliuÌ„ Caiet in finecom Hist veter Testament Cardinall Cajetan tells vs The bookes in question betwixt vs as namely Iudith Tobit the Maccabees the books of Wisedome and Ecclesiasticus are reckoned by Hierome amongst the Apocryphall books neither be thou troubled saith hee O Nouice if elsewhere you finde these bookes reckoned amongst the Canonicall Scriptures both by sacred Councells or by the holy Doctors of the Church for they are to bee reduced to the rule of Hierome that those bookes may not bee accounted Canonicall that is to regulate our faith but they may bee termed Canonicall for the edification of the faithfull This testimony of Cajetan against the Tenet of the Church of Rome fully agrees with vs in so much that Ambrosius Catharinus a Romanist professeth that Cajetan in this poynt committed almost as many sinnes as hee deliuered words And his fellow Canus protesteth that hee is ashamed that a man otherwise ingenious and learned and a godly pillar of their Church In huius vero confirmatione argumenti Ambrosius Cathâ—rinus Caietanum affirmat tot peccata admisisse quot verba penè effudit Can lib. 2. cap. 11. should so much degenerate from the learned professors of the Romane Faith that when all Writers agree that the name of Canonicall is sacred and diuine onely Cajetan should say the Bishops and Councels did otherwise vnderstand it And for a conclusion Arias Montanus in his Edition of the Bible Accesserunt et huic Editioni libri Graecè scripti quos Ecclesia Orthodoxa Hebraorum Canonem secuta inte Apochryphos receÌ„set Arias Mon. in the Frontispice of the Bible Edit Antwerp ex Offic. Plant. Ann. 1584. tells vs there are added to that Edition bookes writen in Greeke as namely Toby Iudith Hester the Booke of Wisedome Ecclesiasticus Baruch the Additions to Daniel and the two bookes of Maccabees the which bookes saieth hee the Orthodoxe Church following the Hebrew Canon reckons amongst the Apocrypha And thus by
our aduersaries owne confessions the true and Orthodox Church did reiect those Apocryphall bookes which our Church refuseth which the Trent Councell allowes at this day for Canonicall And thus briefly I haue produced a Catalogue of ancient Fathers and moderne Writers in the Romane Church who haue witnessed with vs the same Canon of Scripture which wee professe at this day whereby I haue giuen you a taste of that challenge which God willing I purpose heereafter to make good in the principal points of our Religion that our Church and doctrine hath continued Visible in all ages euen to the dayes of Luther SECT VI. Our Aduersaries pretences from the authorities of Fathers and Councels to prooue the Apocryphall bookes Canonicall answered THe former Testimonies are so true and pregnant in our behalfe that our learned aduersaries are inforced to confesse that most of those Authours did reiect the bookes in question for Apocryphall To say nothing of the Trent Anathema layd vpon those reuerend Fathers and learned Doctors of the ancient and moderne Churches who reiected those bookes in all ages let vs weigh their chiefest reasons and arguments for defence of their cause and it will appeare there are no solid and certaine authorities to proue the Apocryphall books in question for canonicall Bell. lib. 1. de verbo Dei c. 12. To instance in particulars Bellarmine saith the booke of Iudith was held by Hierome for Canonicall and withall pretended this reason for it This booke hath a singular testimony from the famous and first generall Councell of Nice It is true that both contending parties subscribe to this first and best Councell of Nice but I pray where is that Canon to be found and sure I am there is no such testimony extant Asseruit esse ApocryphuÌ„ Salm. Com. in Hebr. disp 2. Acost lib 2. de Christo Reuel c. 13. Quod mihi dubituntis suspicionem subindieare videtur naÌ„ Nicena Synodus olim hunc libruÌ„ in Canonem redegerat cur annis 80 post non accenset eum Synodê° Laodicena cur Nazianzenus eius non meminit quid sibi vult quod idem c. Lind. Panopl lib. 3. cap 3. as is pretended by the Cardinall nay more Salmeron his fellow Iesuite protesteth Saint Hierome affirmed the booke of Iudith Apocryphall And Acosta the Iesuite professeth è Canone exemit hee exempted it out of the Canon and as touching the Councell of Nice their owne Lindanus proclaimeth that this assertion giues him great cause of doubting for if the Nicene Councell did anciently reckon the booke of Iudith in the Canon why did not the Councell of Laodicea reckon it why did not Nazianzene make mention of it what meant hee to say the Church at that time did reade the bookes of Iudith Tobie and the Maccabees but did not receiue them amongst the Canonicall Scriptures Againe looke vpon the Councell of Laodicea called in the yeare 364 there you shall finde the booke of Iudith Bin. Not. in Concil Rom sub Syluest by the testimony of Binius himselfe reiected for Apocryphall and this Councell is confirmed by the second Canon of the sixt Generall Councell of Trullo which the Fathers of that Councell would neuer haue done if the first Generall Councell of Nice had decreed the contrary I proceed to the examination of the chiefest ground and principall cause of their Trent Decree The third Councell of Carthage called in the time of Siricius Bishop of Rome about the yeere 399 Placuit vt praeter scripturas Canocas nihil in Ecclesiâ legatur sub nomine diuinarum scripturaruÌ„ sunt autem Canonicae Scripturae Tobias Iudith Hester Esdrae libri duo MachabeoruÌ„ libri duo Conc. Carth. 3. circa tempora Syriâ—ij Canone 47. touching the Apocryphall bookes makes this declaration It pleaseth vs that nothing be read in the Church besides the Canonicall Scriptures and there they publish for the Canonicall bookes Tobie Iudith Hester Esdras and the two bookes of Maccabees And to this Councell say the Romanists Saint Austen subscribed This testimony I confesse is extant in the 47. Canon of this Councell but giue mee leaue to tell you the Church of Rome doth not generally avowe that Canon of that Councell It is the confession of Cardinall Baronius Haud omnes Haudomnes Canones in hâc Synodo sanciti probantur sed diuersisaliis coÌ„ciliis Carthaginensibus vt inter alios iste quo sacroruÌ„ libroruÌ„ certus numerê° definitur Baron An. 397. nuÌ„ 46. Canones 50. quoruÌ„ tituli hîc assignaÌ„tur non omnes in hâc Synodo sed diuersisaliis coÌ„ciliis CarthagineÌ„sibê° sanciti probaÌ„tur inter alios 19.30 et 47. which last Canon is the CanoÌ„ in question Bin. in CoÌ„cil Carth. 3. c. Not all the Canons of this Councell are established but they are allowed in diuers other Councels of Carthage as namely that Canon wherein the number of sacred bookes were defined And Binius the publisher of the Councells makes the like acknowledgment that the 50 Canons which were intituled to that Councell were not all confirmed by it but by other Councells of Carthage as namely the 47 Canon and that which argues suspition of a forged Canon the bookes of Maccabees which are inserted in the Latine copie of that Councell are not to bee found in all or any of the ancient Greeke copies or Manuscripts Hic Canon Carthaginensis Concilii extat in collectione CanonuÌ„ Cresconii Africani Episcopi nonduÌ„ edita sed ibi Machabee ruÌ„ libri non recensentur ne in omnibê° Gracis codicibus editis Mss Christ Iustellus obseru Not. in Cod. CanonuÌ„ Eccle. Africanae Bell. de Roman Pont. lib. 2. ca. 31. Quintum Bell. de CoÌ„cil author lib. 2. cap 8. Decimo Neither is this Councell of that authoritie as the Romanists themselues pretend for when our learned Protestants doe otherwise produce this Councell against the head of their Church Bellarmine makes answere This Prouinciall Councell ought not to bind the Bishop of Rome nor the Bishops of other Prouinces If wee oppose against it the Councell of Laodicea which decreed those bookes for Apocryphall Bellarmine makes answere The Councell of Carthage is of greater authoritie then that of Laodicea because it is later and because it was Nationall but the Councell of Laodicea was prouinciall In the one place when it seemingly makes for him hee termes it a Nationall Councell in the other when it plainely makes against him hee termes it Prouinciall But Oportet esse memorem Falsehood had need haue a good memory It is vsuall with Bellarmine with Canus with Costerus and the best learned Romanists to excuse Saint Hierome Saint Austen Saint Gregorie and many others which denied the Apocrypha for part of the diuine Canon with this generall Answere It was no sinne Bell de verbo Dei lib. 1. cap. 10. no heresie in them to reject those bookes because no Generall Councell in their dayes had decreed any thing touching them If therefore no Generall Councell had decreed
VIA DEVIA THE BY-WAY Mis-leading the weake and vnstable into dangerous paths of Error by colourable shewes of Apocryphall Scriptures vnwritten Traditions doubtfull Fathers ambiguous Councells and pretended Catholike Church Discouered By HVMFREY LYNDE Knight Scriptura Regula credendi certissima tutissimáque est Bell de Verb. Dei 40 1 cap 2. LONDON Printed by Aug. M. for ROB. MILBOVRNE and are to be sold at his Shop at the Grayhound in Pauls Churchyard 1630. TO THE INGENVOVS AND Moderat Romanists of this Kingdome H. L. Wisheth the knowledge of the Safe way that leadeth to eternall Happinesse CHristian is my name and Catholique is my Sirname the one I challenge from my Baptisme in Christs Church the other from my profession of All sauing Truâ—th in Gods Word If you question this my right or claime I will produce my Euidence out of ancient and vndoubted Records and ioyne Issue with you vpon the marks of your owne Church Antiquitie Vniuersalitie Succession and if I prooue not the Faith which I professe to bee Ancient and Catholike I will neither refuse the name nor punishment due to Heresie As touching the Visibilitie of our Church I haue answered your Iesuites Challenge by the Title of Via Tuta the Safe Way wherein I haue appealed to the best learned of your owne side both for the Antiquitie of our Religion and the Noueltie of your owne If you require further satisfaction in this point read peruse the Articles of our Church tell me without a preiudicate opinion if our Church was not Ancient Visible long before Luthers dayes Our 22. Bookes of Canonicall Scripture were they not published and receiued in all ages before Luther Our three Creeds The Apostles Nicene Athanatius Creed were they not anciently beleeued and generally receiued in the Church before Luther Our Liturgie and Book of Common Prayer was it not the same for substaÌ„ce which was taught and professed in the bosome of the Romane Church before Luther Our two Sacraments of Baptisme and the Lords Supper were they not instituted by Christ were they not published and receiued in all ages before Luther These are the Foundations of our Church and all these in despight of malice it selfe must bee acknowledged by our aduersaries that they are taught by vs and were vniuersally receiued long before Luthers dayes And as touching the particular tenets of our Church opposite to your Trent Creed our spirituall receiuing of Christ by faith onely whereby wee are made truely and really partakers of Christs body crucified is agreeable to all Christian Confessions and taught by all antiquitie before Luther Our publique Communion of Priest with people had Antiquitie and Vniuersalitie in the best and first ages Bel. de Missa lib. 2. ca. 9 10. by Bellarmines confession long before Luther Our Prayer and Seruice in a knowne tongue was publiquely deliuered and anciently taught by Bellarmines confession long before Luther Bell de verbo Dei lib. 2. cap. 16. Our Communion in both kinds was instituted by Christ and continued in the Primitiue Churches by Bellarmines confession long before Luther Idem de Euch. lib. 4 cap. 24. Nay more the Psalmes of Dauid which vvee sing and some of you blasphemously tearme Geneua Iigges were in ancient vse amongst the common people long before Luther In Bethlem where Christ vvas borne turne whither thou wilt saith Hierome the Husbandman holding his Plough Hier. in 1. Epist 17. ad Marcel continually singeth Alleluia the Mower when hee sweateth and is wearie refresheth himselfe with Psalmes the Gardiner as hee dresseth his Vine with his hooke hath some piece of Dauid in his mouth These I say are the chiefe principles of our Religion these vvee holde vnder the Charter of the great King and all these by the testimonies of our aduersaries themselues were publikely known and generally practised long before Luthers dayes Doe you looke for an outvvard Forme of a glorious and Visible Church in obscure ages Doe you looke for A Citie vpon a Hill in the darke night of errour and ignorance I appeale to your ovvn consciences to vvhat purpose were the prophecies of Christ and his Apostles that the Church should flie into the wildernesse and lie hid there that Faith should not bee found on the earth that the time will come when they will not suffer wholsome doctrine but shal be giuen to Legends fables that some should giue heed to the spirit of errour and doctrine of Deuills that after a thousand yeeres Sathan should be let loose and deceiue the foure quarters of the earth were all these things foretold that it might bee fulfilled what was spoken are the thousand yeeres long since expired and yet shall vve thinke that none of these prophesies are accomplished Admit the man of Sinne bee not reuealed yet the Mysterie of iniquitie began to vvorke in the Apostles time and the Euangelist tells vs the tares vvhich the thiefe fovved in the night had almost choaked the good corne and lest there might be some expectation of a great multitude which shold assume the Title of an eminent and glorious Church our Sauiour himselfe by way of preuention cals his Church by the name of A little flocke Luke 12.32 as if a small number were the ancient Character of the true Church The malignaÌ„t Church hath many heretikes and hypocrites which indeed make a great noyse for a visible Church when as those wicked persons saith Austen although they seeme to bee in the Church August de Bapt. lib. 6. cap. 3. yet they appertaine not to the true Church That many are called is the Church visible that few are chosen is the Church inuisible Neither doe vvee hereby make two churches when we consider this Church after a two fold maner Bellar. de Eccles li. 3. cap. 15. In the Church something is beleeued some thing is seene we see that company of men which is the Church but that this coÌ„pany is the true Church we do not see it but beleeue it this is Bellarmines confession this is ours Againe looke back and take a briefe Suruey of the Church in seuerall ages It began with two in Paradise there remained in the flood but eight persons in that number there vvas an accursed Cham. In Sodome not ten persons nay scarce three righteous to be found there was but one Ioshua and Caleb of many thousands that entred the land of Canaan In the fiery trial but three children at the comming of Christ there was Simeon and Anna Ioseph and Mary Zacharie and Elizabeth and not many more knowne to bee sincere professours of Gods Trueth in the Church of Hierusalem In the Colledge of the Apostles there were but twelue and one was the sonne of perdition In the time of persecution for three hundred yeres after Christ Eusebius tels vs Euseb lib. 8 cap 2. the Church was ouerwhelmed to the ground and the Pastors of the Churches hid themselues heere
the true Canon of Scripture in their dayes how comes it to passe that Bellarmine cites the Councell of Nice for the booke of Iudith Why doe the Romanists claime the antiquitie of their Canon from the Councell of Carthage Why doe they professe in honor of that Councell that it was generally receiued and that S. Austen subscribed to it when as that Canon touching the Apocryphal Scriptures was not decreed nor confirmed by that Councell by their owne confessions But admit the Councell of Carthage had decreed it yet can any man prooue that the Church at that time did receiue the bookes of Iudith of Hester of the Maccabees and the rest for the rule of faith Shall we thinke that Saint Austen maintained the Canon of Scriptures contrary to Saint Hierom must wee beleeue that the Councell of Carthage within lesse then thirtie yeeres did decree contrary to the Councell of Laodicea nay more is it so much as probable that both those Councells should bee confirmed by one and the same generall Councell of Trullo and yet one should decree a contrary Canon of Faith against the other And as touching Saint Austens subscription to that Councell it is a sufficient allegation against it that the 47 Canon was neuer decreed in that Councell and the rather it appeares by this for that St. Austen did not allowe the booke of Iudith of Wisdome of Ecclesiasticus and the Maccabees for Canonicall all which are expressely decreed in the Councell of Carthage for Canonicall Touching the booke of Iudith St. Aug. de Ciuit. Dei lib. 18. c. 26. l. 17. c. 20 he tells vs the Pewes neuer receiued it in to the Canon of Scriptures withal there he professeth that the Canon of the Iewes was most authentical Touching the bookes of Wisedome and Ecclesiasticus hee tells vs Solomon was a Prophet as his workes namely the Prouerbes the Canticles and Ecclesiastes doe witnesse all which are Canonicall August de Ciuit. Dei lib. 17. c. 20. but Ecclesiasticus and the booke of Wisedome were onely called his for some likenesse of stile but all the learned affirme them none of his yet the Westerne Churches held them anciently of great authoritie And lastly touching the bookes of Maccabees hee declareth by pregnant and seuerall reasons that they are Apocryphall First by way of distinction hee tells vs this reckoning is not found in the Canonicall Scriptures but in other bookes which the Church receiueth for Canonicall Secondly hee tells vs they are accounted Canonicall for the suffering of holy Martyrs whereas the Canonicall bookes are simply and absolutely of themselues and for themselues Canonicall Thirdly hee tells vs the Church did receiue them not vnprofitably which is as poore a testimony as hee could haue giuen of his own works Fourthly they are receiued with this condition if they be soberly read in the Church And lastly hee giueth this speciall reason in behalfe of the true Canon of Scripture Christ giueth his Testimonie to those bookes as namely to the Law to the Prophets to the Psalmes because all they beare witnesse of him but the Apocryphall bookes neither witnes any thing of Christ neither are they conteined vnder all or any of those bookes which Christ himselfe diuided into the Law the Prophets and the Psalmes It is true Proto canonici Deuterocanonici there was Canon Ecclesiasticall wherein all or most part of the Apocryphall bookes which are now read and receiued in our Churches were anciently read for example of life and instruction of manners and for that cause were commonly called Canonicall and in this manner Saint Austen speaking of thâ— Maccabees tells vs Hos libros non Iudai sed Ecclesia habet pro Canonicis Aug. de ci uit Dei lib. 18. cap. 36. These books the Church did account Canonicall which the Iewes did not yet withall he professeth in the same Tract that those bookes which were not in the Iewes Canon and yet were receiued of the Church for Canonicall were of lesse force and authoriritie when as it cannot bee denied that all the bookes truely and diuinely Canonicall were alwayes reputed of equall force and authoritie Againe there was Canon diuinus Aug de Ciuit Dei lib. 17 cap. 20. a diuine Canon which was held the rule of Faith wherein was numbred onely the twentie two bookes of Scripture committed to the Iewes and this Canon St. Austen who termed the bookes of Maccabees Canonicall doth distinguish from the Canon Ecclesiasticall and giues his very instance in the bookes of Maccabees In Machabaeorum libris etsi aliquid MirabiliuÌ„ de diuini Canonis Mirabilibus exiguaÌ„ expositioneÌ„ tangeremus Aug. de Mirabil sacrae Scrip. lib. 2. cap. 34. There may be something saith he found in the books of Maccabees worthy to bee ioyned with the number of those miracles yet hereof will wee haue no care for that we intend the miracles Diuini Canonis which are conteined in the diuine Canon And thus he distinguished the bookes of Maccabees which he termed Canonicall for instruction of life from the diuine Canon of Scriptures Canon MoruÌ„ Canon Fidei Caiet which were receiued for confirmation of faith and that diuine Canon onely hee acknowledgeth to be giuen by inspiration from God and to bee of most certaine credit and highest authority in the Church and for that cause hee giues this further rule Bell de verbo Dei lib. 1. cap. 10. The bookes which were receiued of all Churches such as were in the diuine Canon among the Iewes were of greatest authoritie and ought to bee preferred before those which were not generally receiued of the all Churches Diuum AugustinuÌ„ fuisse certissimuÌ„ omnes libros Canonicoâ—esse infallibilis veritatis sed noÌ„ fuisse aequè certum de omnibus libris quos enumerauerat qui esseÌ„t canonici na si ità sentiebat rem noÌ„ fuisse adhuc à generali Concilio definitam et proptereà potuisse sine labe haeresios quosdaÌ„libros ab aliis non recipi IdeÌ„ ibidem and thereupon Bellarmine confesseth by way of solution That Saint Austen was most certaine that all Canonicall bookes were of infallible truth but was not alike certaine that all the bookes of Scripture were Canonicall for if he did think so yet hee knew the poynt was not as yet defined by a generall Councell and therefore without any staine of heresie some books might not bee receiued of some persons for Apocryphall Since therefore the pretended Canon of the Nicene Councell is not extant since their suggested Canon of the third Councell of Carthage by their owne confessions is not confirmed in that Councell since the bookes of Maccabees which are ioyned with the Apocryphall bookes in the Latine copies are not to bee found in the Manuscripts of the ancient Greeke coppies nay more since contrariwise wee haue the testimonie of Christ and his Apostles for the intire Canon comprehended in the Law in the Prophets and in the Psalmes since
we haue the Councell of Laodicca in the Primitiue Church generally receiued and aftewards confirmed by a general Councel since wee haue the consent of the ancient Fathers and the ample testimonies of Bishops and Cardinals and learned Writers in the bosome of the Roman Church who witnesse with vs the Antiquity and Vniuersality of our Canon in all ages I hope wee may with good reason reiect the Apocryphall Scriptures as often as they are produced against vs for Freewill for Purgatory for Prayer for the dead for Invocation of Saints for Worshipping of Angells and the like these things I say rightly considered and patiently heard on both sides I shall appeale to their owne learned Cardinall Cajetans confession who concludes for the antiquitie of our doctrine and the Vniuersalitie of the Iewes Canon Duas maximas vtilitates ex IudaeoruÌ„ obstinacia percipimê° altera est fides libroruÌ„ sacrorum Si enim omnes conuersi essent ad ChristuÌ„ putaret iam mundus Iudaeorum ad inuentioneÌ„ fuisse quod fuerit promissâ—s Messiis sed vbi inimici Christi Iudai perseuerant et testantur nullos alios apud Patres fuisse libros canonicè sacroâ—nisi istos Cajet CoÌ„ment in Rom c 11. Bell. de verbo Dei lib. 1. cap. 2. with one and the same reason All Christians receiue a double benefit by the Apostacie and obstinacie of the Iewes one is to know which are the true bookes of the Olde Testament for if all the Iewes had beene converted to the faith of Christ then would the world haue suspected that the Iewes had invented those promises which are of Christ the Messias but now for as much as the Iewes are enemies vnto Christ they beare witnesse vnto vs that there are no bookes Canonicall but those onely which the Iewes themselues acknowledged to bee Canonicall To conclude therefore this first poynt since the Scripture is the most certaine and safest rule of Faith by our aduersaries owne confession since the Canonicall bookes of Scripture which are the onely rule of Faith are conteined in the Law in the Prophets and the Psalmes vnder all or any of which the Apocryphall bookes are not conteined I say to leaue this certaine and safe way and receiue Apocryphall additions to that Word Deut. 4.2 c. 12.32 Prou. 30.6 Reuel 22.18 when it is strictly forbidden by God himselfe Thou shalt not adde to this Word this is Via dubia a doubtfull and vncertaine way this is Via Deuia a wandring and By-way But because our aduersaries insist vpon an other ground viz. NoÌ„ aliundè nos habere Scripturam esse diuinaÌ„ et qui sunt libri sacri quaÌ„ ex Traditioniê° noÌ„ scriptis Bel. de verb. Dei lib. 4. c. 4. That by no other meanes wee can know the Scriptures to be diuine nor the bookes to bee holy and Canonicall but onely from vnwritten Tradition I will leaue them to their Apocryphall Scriptures and pursue them in their vnwritten traditions in the next place SECT VII The Romanists in poynt of Traditions contradict the truth and themselues grounding most of their erronious Doctrine vpon vnwritten Traditions and yet frequently alledge the written Word for them IT is the first Article of the Romane Creed to which all Bishops and Priests are sworne Bulla Pij 4. Art 1. I admit and embrace the Apostolicall and Ecclesiasticall Traditions and the other obseruations and constitutions of the Church What are meant by those Obseruations and Constitutions of the Church and how the Priests are bound to imbrace them The Councell of Trent declareth in this manner Necnon Traditiones ipsas tum ad fidem tum ad mo res pertineÌ„tes pari pietutis affectu ac reuerentia suscipit veneratur Conc. Trid Sess 4. Decret 1. Traditions appertaining to faith and manners as if they were dictated by Christ himselfe with his owne mouth or by the holy spirit and preserued by a continuall succession in the Catholique Church the Councell receiueth with equall reuerence and religious affection as shee receiues the holy Striptures themselues Heere was the first alteration made touching the rule of Faith and from the Decree of this Councell Bellarmines doctrine began to take place Regula partialis noÌ„ totalis Bell. The Scripture is but a partiall not a totall rule of Faith for certainly till this time Traditions concerning faith and manners were neuer reputed of equall authoritie with the Scriptures nor a part of the Rule of Faith It was the Tenet of Aquinas and the later Schoolemen knew no other doctrine till the Councell of Trent Aquin. in 1. ad Tim. cap. 6. The doctrine of the Prophets and Apostles is called Canonicall because it is the rule of our vnderstanding and therefore no man ought to teach otherwise But you shall obserue from and after this time the Romanists performed their oath Ex abundanti I may say more then enough Cardinall Baronius tells vs Tradition is the foundation of Scriptures Baron An. 58. n. 11. and excels them in this that the Scriptures cannot subsist vnlesse they bee strengthened by Traditions but Tradition hath strength enough without the Scriptures And that the world may know it is vsuall with our aduersaries not onely to equall their vnwritten Traditions but also to aduance them aboue the Scriptures let their sayings bee weighed by any indifferent man and it will appeare the Scriptures are of so little vse or esteeme with them as if they were not worthy to be named in poynts of controuersie betwixt vs. Lindan Panopl l. 1. c. 22. l. 5. c. 4. l. 1. c. 6. c. Traditions saith Lindan are the most certaine foundations of Faith the most sure ground of the sacred Scriptures the impenetrable buckler of Ajax the suppresser of all heresies On the other side the Scripture saith hee is a nose of waxe a dead and killing letter without life a meere shell without a kernell a leaden rule a wood of thieues a shop of heretiques and the like Costerus the Iesuite tels vs for certain It was neuer the minde of Christ either to commit his mysteries to parchment or that his Church should depend on paper writings but say the Rhemists Rhem. Test in 2. Thess 2. v. 19. Wee haue plaine Scriptures all the Fathers most euident reasons that wee must either beleeue Traditions or nothing at all nay more saith Costerus The excellencie of the vnwritten word doth far surpasse the Scriptures which the Apostles left vs in parchments Coster Euchrist cap. 1 pag. 44. the one is written by the finger of God the other by the penne of the Apostles the Scripture is a dead letter written in paper or parchment which may be razed or wrested at pleasure but Tradition is written in mens hearts which cannot be altered the Scripture is like a scabberd which will receiue any sword either leaden or woodden or brazen and suffereth it selfe to be drawen by any interpretation Tradition retaines the true
sword in the scabberd that is the true sense of the Scripture in the sheath of the letter The Scriptures doe not containe clearely all the mysteries of Religion for they were not giuen to that end to prescribe an absolute forme of faith but Tradition containes in it all truth it comprehends all the mysteries of faith and all the estate of Christian Religion and resolues all doubts which may arise concerning faith and from hence it will follow that Tradition is the Interpreter of all Scriptures the Iudge of all Controuersies the Remouer of all errors and from whose judgment we ought not to appeale to an other Iudge yea rather all Iudges are bound both to regard and follow her judgement Now if we looke backe and consider those blasphemous speeches vsed against the Scriptures and compare those passages with the reuerend regard they giue vnto Traditions wee cannot but conceiue there were some speciall reasons that induced the Pope Trent Councell to set Traditions in the first place Quam TraditionuÌ„ authoritateÌ„ si tollas nutare iam vacillare videbuntur Andrad de Orth. expli lib. 2. Andradius who well vnderstood the state of the Church of Rome being present at the making of that decree giues this generall lesson in their behalfe Many poynts of Romane doctrine would reele and totter if they were not supported by the helpe of Traditions But it may not bee forgotten Sutor de Translat Bibl. c. 22. their owne Monke Petrus de Sutor more particularly shewes one speciall cause why the Scriptures were denied vnto the lay people viz. Because many things being taught by the Romane Church and not contained in the Scriptures would more easily drawe the people from the traditions and obseruances of their Church And another reason why Traditions are in that speciall request aboue the Scriptures is rendred by their owne Bishop Canus Canus loc Theol lib. 3. cap. 3. Because Tradition is not onely of greater force against heretiques then the Scripture but almost all disputation with heretiques is to bee referred to Traditions Thus you see by the confessions of two learned Romanists there was great cause why traditions should haue the first place amongst the Articles of the Creed for the one saith they preuent the reading of the Scriptures which otherwise would discouer the doctrine of their Church the other saith they are more availeable then the Scriptures to confute the doctrine of heretiques These testimonies premised for the honour and authoritie of Papall Traditions let vs examine what are meant by Traditions and next which are those Traditions that are of that high esteeme in the Romane Church for if their Traditions bee of equall authoritie with the Scriptures and yet are not contained in the Scriptures there is great reason they should bee approoued by testimonies and witnesses aequiualent to the Scriptures Kellis Suruey l. 8. c. 3. Doctor Kellison tells vs that Tradition is nothing else but an opinion or custome of the Church not written in holy Scriptures but yet deliuered by the hands of the Church from time to time from Christians to Christians euen to the last age And Saint Austen declareth more properly VVhatsoeuer the Vniuersall Church doth hold Aug. lib 4. contra Donat c. 24. not being ordained by Councells but hath beene euer held that is beleeued most rightly to be an Apostolicall Tradition It appeares therefore that Papall Traditions which are of equall authority with the Scriptures must haue Vniuersalitie of Churches and consent of ages or to vse the wordes of their Trent Councell Such as are preserued by a continuall succession in the Catholike Church All doctrinall Traditions of this nature are receiued by the Reformed Churches for wee all professe with the same Father Conc. Trid. Sess 4. Whatsoeuer is vsed by the Church throughout all the world is to bee obserued and it would bee most insolent madnesse to dispute against the same Let vs heare therefore out of their owne mouthes what are those Traditions which are not written in any Apostolique Authour and yet haue those requisite conditions and speciall characters of the Roman Church viz. Antiquity Vniuersality and Succession Pet. à Soto in lib. cont Brentium Petrus à Soto giues vs to vnderstand that the sacrifice of the Altar the vnction of Chrysme Inuocation of Saints Prayers for the dead the Popes Supremacie Consecration of water in Baptisme the whole Sacrament of Confirmation Orders Matrimony Penance Extreame vnction Merit of workes Necessitie of satisfaction and confession to a Priest are all Traditions of the Romane Church Canis in Catech. c. 5. de precept Eccles Coster in refut script Wallesij antith 6. Canus loc Theol. li 3. ca. 3. Canisius and Costerus referre to Traditions the worship of Images set times of fasting all the Ceremonies of the Masse Melchior Canus tells vs the imploring helpe of holy Martyrs and celebrating their memories the worshipping of Images the consecrating and receiuing of the body and blood of Christ by the Priest the Sacraments of Confirmation and Orders not to bee reiterated are no where happily to bee found in Scriptures but amongst all the Romanists as it is obserued by reuerend Whitakers there is none doth so fully and punctually set downe the Traditions of the Romane Church as their Bishop Lindan who amongst other Traditions Whit. coÌ„tr 1. c. 5. quest 6. mentions the Reall presence the Communion vnder one kinde priuate Masse Indulgences Purgatory Peters liuing and dying at Rome All or most of these Traditions are substantiall and fundamentall poynts and the denyall of them makes a man an heretike in their Church Now it is very obseruable in the first place that no vnwritten Tradition hath any ground or foundation in the Scripture Peres de Tradit p 4. for Tradition is so taken saith Peresius that it is distinguished against the doctrine which is found in the Canonicall bookes of Scripture and consequently touching all or any of the Papall Traditions there is no vse at all of Scriptures Herein then stands the difference betwixt the Church of Rome and vs Multa pertinere ad Christianorum doctrinam et fideÌ„ quae nec apertè nec obscuâ—è in sacris literis coÌ„tinentur Canus loc Theol. ca. 3. fund 3. There are many things saith Canus belonging to the doctrine faith of Christians which are neyther contained in the sacred Scriptures manifestly or obscurely and this he vnderstands by the Traditions of his owne Church There is no point of Faith taught in our Church which is not expressely contained in the Scriptures or by necessarie consequence deduced from thence and if we receiue the witnesse of men yet the witnesse of God is greater 1. Ioh. 5.9 But that which is incongruous to common sense and altogether different from the Romish doctrine those men which generally professe that vnwritten Traditions are so called because they are distinguished from the word written as Bellarmine confesseth
de Imag c. 16. whom the Church condemneth Bellarmine answers This booke was written in the beginning of his first conuersion to the Catholike Faith Aug. de corrept gra cap 1. D. Augustinus duÌ„ toto spiritus ac verboruÌ„ ardore pro defensione diuinae gratiae pugnat aduersus Pelagianos liberuÌ„ arbitriuÌ„ cuÌ„ iniuria diuinae gratiae exâ—olleÌ„tes in alteraÌ„ quasi foueam delaâ—s vtdetur minusque interdum iribuere quam par sit liberae hominis volâ—tati Sixt. Seneâ—â— in Bib. sanct l. 5 in Prefat Nos noÌ„ moueat Augustinus vel tantillum c. Episc Bitont comment in Ep. ad Rom. ca. 5. p. 270. 10. Saint Austen saith In doing good none can bee free in will and act vnlesse hee be free by him that said If the Sonne free you you are truely freed Sixtus Senensis saith Whilst Saint Austen doth contend earnestly against the Pelagians for the defence of diuine Grace hee doth seeme to fall into an other pit and sometimes attribute too little to Freewill But saith the Bishop of Bitonto Let not Saint Austen mooue vs at all for it is proper ana peculiar to him that when he opposetth any errour hee doeth it with that vehemencie that hee seemes to fauour an other errour euen so when hee prosecutes Arrius hee seemes to fauour Sabellius when Sabellius Arrius when Pelagius the Maniches when the Maniches Pelagius and this is very considerable and ought especially to be noted in him Lastly Saint Austen vpon the words of Christ saith Thou art Peter August de verb. Dom. Serm. 13. and vpon this Rocke which thou hast confessed vpon this Rock which thou hast knowne saying Thou art Christ the Son of the liuing God will I build my Church for the Rocke was Christ. Stapl. princip doct lib. 6. c. 3. Stapleton answers It was lapsus humanus an humane errour caused by the diuersitie of the Greek and Latin tongue which either hee was ignorant of or marked not Bell. li 1. de Pont. ca. 10. Bellarmine replies Saint Austen was deceiued by the ignorance onely of the Hebrew tongue But Albertus Pigghius concludes with a witnes against him Nusquam hanet nusquam figit sed vbique explorat vbique tentat et suberatur omnia et quicquid probabile occcurrit alicubi amplectitur qd coÌ„tinuò post displicet retractatur Ociose secum inquireÌ„tu et tentaÌ„tis omnia Alb. Piggh. Hier. Eccles lib. 3. c. 5. Nusquam haeret nusquam figit He neuer resolues certainly vpon any thing but as if he were idle-headed giuen to crotchets hee fetcheth about this way and that way and at length lighting vpon some probabilitie layeth hold on it and then dislikes it and presently retracts it Thus if wee may credit their best learned Romanists St. Austen did not agree constantly with himselfe nor others his doctrine is opposed by the consent of Fathers in the Trent Councell hee vsed not his owne meaning in fighting against heretiques If hee had been liuing in these dayes he would haue been of an other mind He is inconstant and fixeth in certaine vpon nothing but as an idle-headed man full of crotchets one while hee resolues an other while he retracts it You haue heard Saint Austens confession and our aduersaries solution touching the chiefe poynts in question betwixt vs wherby as yet I see no cause why the Romanists should brag of the ancient Fathers in generall nor of St. Austen in particular I proceed in the next place to examine the faith of Austen the Monke that it may appeare whether that doctrine which hee published heere in England aboue a thousand yeeres since bee consonant to our Religion or the doctrine of the Roman Church SECT XIII Saint Gregory pretended to bee the Founder of the Romane Religion in England by sending Austen the Monke for conuersion of this Nation in his vndoubted writings directly opposeth the Romish faith in the maine poynts thereof AVsten the Monke was sent into England by Gregorie the Great about the yeere 600 and is tearmed by the Romanists of this latter age Englands Apostle To say nothing of the haughtinesse of his person through whose pride and contempt twelue hundred poor Christians and holy men of Bangor were murdered as it is related by Venerable Bede Bede Hist Ang l. 2. c. 2 let vs obserue the doctrine of that age and because we haue no Records of the Monkes doctrine let vs reflect vpon Gregory the Great whose writings are extant and who without doubt professed the substance of that Faith which by his Warrant and Commission was then published in England by Austen the Monke It is the generall vote of the Romanists in this latter age that the Faith which Gregorie deliuered in his dayes was so true and Catholike that If an Angell from heauen should teach other doctrine then that we haue receiued from Gregorie wee are not to heare him Canus the Bishop of Canaries well vnderstood that this Assumpsit was of too large an extent and therfore wisely by way of preuention giues this caueat to the Reader Canus li. 11 loc Theol. c. 6. p. 540. It is fitting for a Diuine to bee admonished and not suddenly to bee perswaded that all things are perfect which great and learned Authors haue written as for example Gregorie and Bede the one in his Historie of England the other in his Bookes of Dialogues haue published such miracles commonly receiued and beleeued which the censurers of this age will thinke to be doubtfull and vncertaine I speake not this to decline the doctrine of Gregorie Quid est hoc quaeso te qd in hiâ— extremis temporibus tâ—m multa de animabus c Greg. Dial lib 4. cap. 40. for howsoeuer many ceremonies and strange opinions through visions and apparitions of dead men which Gregorie in his Dialogues complained of sprung vp in his dayes yet the principall poynts of doctrine did as yet remaine sound and stable so that setting aside his Dialogues which are but Aniles fabulae no way fit to prooue Articles of Faith In his vndoubted Writings there will bee found few or no substantiall points which are not agreeable to the Tenets of our Church and altogether different froÌ„ the Roman and that this may become more manifest to the Reader I haue compared the Trent Doctrine and ours with Gregorie that by parallelling the Articles on both sides the Antiquitie of the true Church may visibly appeare by the faith of Gregory The Canonicall Bookes of Scripture Gregorie We doe not amisse Non inordinatè agimê° si ex libris licet noÌ„ Canonicis sed tamen ad edificationeÌ„ Ecclesia editis testimonium proferamê° Greg. Moral lib. 19. ca 13. Artic 6. if wee bring forth a testimony out of the bookes of Maccabees which though they are not Canonicall yet are they set forth for the edification and instruction of the Church Church of England The books of Maccabees the Church doeth reade for
the compasse of Demetrius assembly which wanted a right and a lawfull calling But let vs see with what esteeme and authoritie this Councel is receiued in the Romane Church Cardinall Bellarmine tels vs Si tollamus authoritateÌ„ praesentis Ecclesiae praesentis Concilii in dubiuÌ„ reuocari possunt omniuÌ„ aliorum Conciliorum decreta et totu fides Christiana Bell. de effect SacraÌ„ lib. 2. c 25. If we take away the authoritie and credit of the present Church and Councell of Trent the Decrees of other Councels and the whole Christian Faith may bee called in question This Iesuite who first assured vs That the Church might continue safe without Councels if occasion required at least two thousand yeres now without any regard to the sacred Gospel of Christ professeth That if the Roman Church and Trent Councell were remoued the Faith of all Christians would be indangered and Campian his fellow Iesuite as man rauished with the fame of that Synod proclaimes to after ages The elder that Councell waxeth the more it will flourish and as a true Romish Proselyte cries out to the astonishment of poore Protestants O good Lord with what diuersitie of people out of all Countreys with what choyce of Bishops throughout all Christendome with what excellencies of Kings and Common-weales with what profound Diuines with what deuotion with what lamentations with what abstinence and fasting with what flowers of Vniuersities with what knowledge of strange tongues with what sharpe wits with what studie with what endlesse reading with what store of vertues and exercises was that sacred place replenished This Councell is like the great Diana of the Ephesians that carries the vniuersall applause let vs looke herefore into the lawfulnesse and authoritie of this Councell for if it be of men Acts 5.39 it will come to nought but if it bee of God we cannot ouerthrow it lest happily we be found euen to fight against God himselfe First then as this Councel wanted a right calling of the Emperor so likewise it wanted a requisite condition to make it Generall for that Councell is truly Generall wherunto al christian States are summoned assembled in his name and shall this be held the great Councell of the Christian world the chiefe supporter of all other Councels and the whole Christian faith which was confined to a small number and some fewe Nations Looke vpon the three Patriarks of Constantinople Antioch and Alexandria were they all present Look vpon the Grecians Armenians Medes Persians Egyptians Moores Aethiopians were they summoned to this Councel do not these people beleeue in Christ haue they not Bishops did their Ambassadours come from all these Nations to the Councell Nay more were the Legats of the kingdome of England of Denmarke of the King of Swetia of Scotland and the Dukedome of Prussia there present Looke vpon the assemblie of their Bishops and it will appeare by their Historie of Trent Historie of Trent lib 2 p. 140. Engl that this Generall and great Councell consisted but of fortie three Bishops and some of those also were but Titular as namely Richard Pates Bishop of Worcester and blind Sr Robert Bishop of Armach these had the bare titles of Bishops were no Bishops at all and two of those Bishops saith Illiricus were taken in adultery Illyr in Protest contr Conc. Trid. the one strucken with a dart the other taken in a trap by the husband and hanged by the necke out of a window to bee seene by all that passed by in the street Binius the publisher of the Councels giues vs to vnderstand that the whole number of Patriarks Archbishops and Bishops vnder Pope Paul the Third who gathered the Councell by the greatest account came but to 62 from which if we take the Titular Bishops and those who through infirmitie could not meet at one the same time there could not be present aboue 43 both as Illiricus and as the Historie of Trent doe witnesse and must we say or can we think that the whole Christian Faith and decrees of all Councels must depend vpon the number of 62 if they were all allowed and agreed together And that which is most remarkable in the fourth Session vnder the same Pope the poynts of greatest moment were discussed and decreed by the number of fiftie three Bishops then I say the prime Articles touching the Canonical books of Scripture touching Traditions then equalled to the Scriptures touching the authentical Edition of scriptures touching the Iudge of all controuersies in poynts of Faith were handled and resolued for Articles of Faith by those few Bishops whereas sometimes it is caried by a single voyce or two and so the number of the whole at most is reduced to thirtie It is true I must confesse that there were many other learned Diuines present but it seemes they were chiefly gathered for the instruction of those Bishops and saith Stella If you will make answere Quod si responder is quod hi Episcopi secum ducant Theologos qui eos illuminent vt contigit in sacro Tridentino CoÌ„cilio in hâc re quidem non possum me a risu temperare Stell in Lucam 6. p. 184. the Bishops bring with them learned Diuines which may instruct them what to say what to answere as it was vsed in the Councell of Trent yet in this I cannot forbeare laughter Neither was the accesse vnto the Councell safe for all those that were inuited neither was it free for all men to dispute and argue the poynts of controuersie freely Pope Iulius the third after the death of his predecessour Pope Paul made a decree That none of the Princes and free Cities of Germanie should haue audience except they would first vow their obedience to the Councell and for that end and purpose hee published his Breue Erit Concilium vt qui temere locuti sunt dicta recantaturi veâ—i aut aut eoruÌ„ inaudita causa in executione ita ordinataruÌ„ ConstitutionuÌ„ haeretici declarentur Breue Iuliâ— 3. citat à Caluino There shall be a Councell that they which haue spoken rashly either may recant their sayings or else without further hearing or receiuing of the matter may bee denounced and condemned for heretikes according to the Constitutions already made Here was plaine dealing and short warning for euery man either to resolue to subscribe to the Trent Doctrine or else to be proscribed for an heretique The Bishops of Apulia did intimate no lesse in the name of all the Bishops PapaluÌ„ RomanuÌ„ adiutor ero ad defendenduÌ„ coÌ„tra omnes homines sic me Deê° adiuuet et saÌ„cta EuaÌ„gelia Ca. E N Extra delure iurand That they were nothing else but the Popes creatures and his bondslaues for there was an oath proposed seuerally to all to bee taken in this maner I will defend the Papacie against all men So helpe mee God and his holy Gospell And as there was an oath proposed in behalfe of the Papall
his heauenly Angels to witnes that notwithstanding you obtrude the invisibility of our church as a stumbling blocke to the ignorant notwithstaÌ„ding your great brags of an outward face of an eminent and glorious Romane Church yet your Trent faith and doctrine vvas far froÌ„ the knovvledge of Christ his Apostles nay more if any Iesuite or all the Iesuites aliue can proue your Roman Faith had Antiquity Vniuersalitie and Succession in al ages and that your Trent Articles were plainly commonly and continually taught receiued de Fide as Articles of Faith before Luther let all the Anathema's in your Trent Councel fall vpon my head And as touching the great noise and rumors of your Catholike Church if you wil consider and vveigh it vvith wisdom and moderation you shall find it wholly depends vpon tvvo doubtfull and vncertain coÌ„clusions viz. The Infallibilitie of the Pope and the Intention of the Priest These are but tvvo slender threds to vphold the Vniuersall faith of all Christians and therfore blame not vs if such things seeme harsh and vntunable in our eares that many millions of soules shold depend vpon the Infallibility of one man that man by your own supposall may draw vvith him innumerable soules to hell That man vvho hath the name and nature of Antichrist in his person in the one as he is against Christ and his doctrine in the other as he claimes to be Christs Vicar sit in his stead for the very name of Antichrist imports both Anti-Christ signifies Against Christ and to be in the place of Christ That man vpon vvhose forehead by the testimonies of learned Authors the vvord Mysterie Dr. Iames in his Epist Dedicatory of the Corruption of the Fathers c. the very mark of the Beast was sometimes writteÌ„ That man who is pointed at by the Apostle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to be that Antichrist by his habitation seated vpon seuen hills Reuel 17. That man who hath the character of the man of sin 2. Thess 2.4 which aduaÌ„ceth himselfe aboue all that are called Gods I haue said you are Gods Psal 82.6 viz the Kings and Princes of the earth That man who hath published the doctrine of Deuils 1. Tim 4. by forbidding of meats and Marriage vnto Priestes Lastly that man whose Infallibility Conc. Flor. in Decret Eugenij whose Succession whose Orders whose Baptisme and Christianitie it selfe depends vpon the Intention of a silly Priest Bell de Iustif li 3. â— 8 of whose Intention none can be assured by your owne confessions It is not the great souÌ„d of a visible Church that must outface the truth for the emptiest vessels make the greatest souÌ„d neither is it the name of Catholike which you wholly appropriate to your selues sufficient to proue your Church Catholike nay more your pretences of Scriptures of Traditions of Fathers of Councels of an Infallible Church are but figge-leaues to couer the nakednesse of your nevv borne faith for it shall appeare by this small Treatise that your chiefest scriptures on which you build your Trent doctrine are Apocryphal your Traditions which you haue equalled to the Scriptures are Apostaticall your Fathers which you assume for Interpreters of the Scriptures are spurious and counterfet your Councels which depend vpoÌ„ the Infallibilitie of the Popes iudgment are erronious doubtful and your preteÌ„ded Catholike Church which is made the onely rule of Faith is neither a whole nor yet a sound member of the Catholike and Vniuersall Body This way therefore which you take is a cloke colour to darken truth by outward shewes and specious pretences and therefore Via Deuia a vvandring and By-way Neither is it your bitternesse and inuectiues against a Lay man shall make me silent in Gods cause for I say with Moses Num. 12.29 Would God al the Lords people could prophecie and I hope there will neuer be wanting a Mildab a Medab to assist Moses and Aaron that may bee able to vindicate Gods Honor and Truth ease our painful Pastors and Ministers which most laboriously performe the work of an Euangelist and conuert soules by preaching which yours peruert by Controuersies of Disputations I hope I say there wil be alwaies some who wil publish to the shame of your Romish Pastors the palpable ignorance of the Laitie who with an implicite faith inuolued obedience resigne vp their sight and senses to blind guides Let the Trueth of God and his Church flourish no rayling accusation of an Aduersary shall deterre mee from my seruice to his cause In the meane time I will appeale to your own consciences whether it bee Catholike doctrine or sauour of Christian Charitie which your Iesuites teach viz. Haereticos non magis audiendos esse etiamsi vera et sacris literis coÌ„sentanea dicant aut doceant quaÌ„ Diobolum Mald. in Math. 16.6 That the Reformed Churches are no more to be heard then the deuill himselfe although they speake trueth and agreeable to the Scriptures nay more I speak it with shame and griefe Discept Tâ—â—ol Sect. 2. the Pope at this day allowes the Talmud of the Iewes and yet prohibites the Books of Protestants Giue mee leaue therefore to speake to you as somtime S. Austen spake to the Donatists Aug. contr Petâ—l lib. 3. cap. 59. If you will be wise vnderstand the trueth it is well if otherwise it shall not grieue mee that I haue taken this paines for you for though your hearts returne not to the peace of the Church yet my peace shall returne to mee in the Church The cause is Gods the labour is mine if you wil reade it impartially and can shew me any error clearely faithfully and moderately I wil make a work of Retractations and professe openly with righteous Iob Iob 31.35 36. O that mine aduersary would write a Booke against mee I would take it vpon my shoulder and bind it as a Crowne vnto me H. L. The Contents Sect. 1. THe safest and onely infallible way to finde out the true Church is by the Scriptures Pag. 1. Sect. 2. Our Aduersaries pretences from the obscuritie of Scriptures and inconueniences of the Lay peoples reading them answered p. 16. Sect. 3. The Scripture according to the Iudgement of the ancient Fathers is the sole Iudge of Controuersies and Interpreter of it selfe p. 43. Sect. 4. Our Aduersaries howsoeuer they pretend by taking an oath to make the Fathers Interpreters of the Scriptures yet indeed they make themselues sole Interpreters of Scriptures and Fathers p. 58 Sect. 5. The intire Canon of Scriptures which wee professe without the Apocryphall additions is confirmed by pregnant testimonies in all ages and most of them acknowledged by the Romanists themselues p. 86 Sect. 6. Our Aduersaries pretences from the Authorities of Fathers and Councels to proue the Apocryphall Bookes Canonicall answered p. 122 Sect. 7. The Romanists in poynt of Traditions contradict the truth and themselues grounding
Lind. lib. 2. Strom. c. 2. c. they are dead characters a killing letter without life a matter of contention a wood of theeues a shop of heretiques imperfect doubtfull fall of perplexities not to be permitted to the common people Laicis lectioneÌ„ scripturarum permittere esset sanctuÌ„ dare canibus Margaritas antè porcos proiicere Hos de express verbo Dei for this were all one saith Hosius as to giue that which is holy vnto dogges and cast pearles before swine Nay more Cardinall Bellarmine assures vs that the people will not onely reape no benefit but detriment by reading them for they would easily take occasion to erre both in manners and doctrine Populus non solum non caperet fructum ex Scripturis sed etiaÌ„ caperet detrimentum Bell. de verbo Dei lib. 2 cap. 15. Bell. ibid. And for confirmation of his assertion among other proofes he giues this instance If an ignorant lay-man should reade of the adultery of Dauid of the incest of Thamar of the lyes of Iudith and many such like things conteined in the Scriptures either it would cause him to imitate their examples or hee would thinke them to bee lying inuentions or being not able to resolue them would be in danger to beleeue nothing at all These the like examples which in trueth concerne the liues and manners of men not the doctrine are registred by the will and mercie of that good God to preuent despaire in others who may vnhappily fall into the like sinnes and yet that no man might presume to commit the like sinnes by their examples hee who reades of the adultery of Dauid shall read likewise of the punishment allotted to his sinnes and hee that reads the particular examples of Thamar and Iudith shall finde such seuere and fearefull iudgements in generall denounced against those sins that he shal haue little cause or comfort to follow their examples in such particulars but from hence rather we may obserue the sinceritie of the Pen-men of the holy Ghost who impartially set downe the vices of the best men and greatest Patriarkes as well as their vertues and by this declaration of the sinnes of the regenerate and best seruants of Christ wee are taught to humble our selues and to flie to our Sauiour for mercie and grace that euery tongue may confesse to thee O God Thou onely art holy And certainely from hence I meane from these the like examples Saint Austen Saint Hierom and the ancient Fathers confuted the Pelagian Heretikes who with Bellarmine and his associates maintained the perfection of righteousnesse in this life But admit these and many such like places were hard to be vnderstood in Scriptures Est fluuius planê° et altus in quo agnus ambulet et elephas natet Greg. ad Leand. praef Ioh. cap. 4. yet there is milke for babes as well as stronger meate for stronger men there is depth saith Gregorie for the Elephant to swimme and shallow fords for the lambe to wade in Hee that gaue a heart and wisedome to the Apostles to preach that heauenly word opened the heart of Lydia a poore ignorant woman to vnderstand it and for that purpose saith Chrysostome the Spirit of God hath so ordered and disposed the Scriptures Chrys in Conc. 3. de Lazaro that Publicanes and Fishers and Tent-makers and Shepheards Apostles and vnlearned men should be saued by those bookes and to that ende no ignorant man should pretend obscuritie for his excuse it is ordained that the labourer and seruant the widow woman and the most vnlearned man by hearing them should reape some benefit Nay more saith he to whom are the Scriptures obscure who is there that heareth the words Blessed are the meek Blessed are the merciful Blessed are the pure in heart and the like that shall need an Expositor Besides the words the Miracles the Histories they are knowne and euident to all and lastly he concludes that the difficultie and obscuritie of the Scriptures which the Romanists pretend at this day Is but a vaile and pretext to cloake idlenesse Praetextê° est et causatio pigritiaeque velamentuÌ„ Chrysost Nos libeÌ„â—èr fâ—emur tuÌ„c teÌ„poris Laicos in Scripturarum lectione fuisse versatos Azor. Tom. 1. Moral li. 8 cap 26 Ita prouidit dulcis paternemineÌ„ esse tam rudeÌ„ et imperitum quin si humilitèr legat multa illie vtilia veraque intelligat neminem tam doctuÌ„ quin illic multo plura ignoret quaÌ„ sciat Aâ— of l. 2 de Christo Reuel c. â— This doctrine was so frequent generall among the Ancients in the Primitiue church that Azorius the Iesuite is inforced to confesse We willingly grant that in those dayes the lay people were conuersant in the reading of the Scriptures And if we looke vpon the lay persons of their times Acosta his fellow Iesuite ingenuously professeth that Our gracious God hath so prouided in holy Writ that there is none so rude and ignorant but by reading the Scriptures in humility may vnderstand many things both profitable and true as likewise there is none so learned but hee may still bee ignorant of more then he knowes nay more saith hee I haue seene some men vtterly vnlearned Vidi viros prorsus illiteratos c. Idem cap. 5. and scarce knowing Latin haue gathered out of the Scriptures such profound knowledge that I haue wondred at them But the spirituall man iudgeth all things Heere is a free confession and a faire euidence from two learned Iesuites the one testifieth that the scriptures were vsually read by the Lay people in the Primitiue Church the other witnesseth of his owne knowledge that an ignorant man hath receiued great benefit and likewise that great profite may redound to the people by reading them in these daies But put the case a Lay man should not vnderstand those things which are contained in the Scriptures notwithstanding ex ipsà Lectione out of the very reading of them there will arise great holinesse and sanctitie of life Admit many things are hard to bee vnderstood in the Scriptures which neuer any Protestant denyed yet saith Hierome Hiero. in Epist ad Paulinum there is the Booke of Genesis most plaine for euery mans vnderstanding therein you may see the creation of the World the beginning of Mankind the confusion of Languages plainely described and as touching the booke of Iob there you may learne a patterne for Patience and there you may see the Resurrection plainly deciphered Magna vtilitatis est ipsa obscuritas eloquioruÌ„ Dei quia exereet sensum vt fatigatione ditatetur c. Greg. lib. 1. Hom. 6. in Ezek. nay more The obscuritie of the Scripture is very profitable saith Gregory for it doth exercise the senses whereby one may vnderstand that which otherwise hee would be ignorant of for if the sacred Scriptures were easie and familiar in all places they would be neglected which obscure places by study and industry being
attentiue that the words of the dead may bee read and heard He lyeth voyd of life and feeling in his graue and his words preuaile Christ doth sit in heauen and is his Testament gainsaid Open it let vs reade we are brethren why doe we striue Let our mindes be pacified our Father hath not left vs without a Testament he that made the Testament is liuing for euer Hee doeth heare our words he doth know his owne words let vs reade why doe we striue SECT III. The Scripture according to the Iudgment of the ancient Fathers is the sole Iudge of Controuersies and Interpreter of it selfe BVsaeus the Iesuite knowing that the Scriptures were not such euident testimonies of the Roman faith Si non potes effugere vel disputationeÌ„ vel collationeÌ„ de rebus fidei cuÌ„ haeretico cui tameÌ„ de doctrinâ inferiorem non esse existimas primuÌ„ ab eo percuÌ„ctare vnde argumenta suav lit depromere coÌ„trà fideÌ„ Catholicam si respondeat vt solent ex scripturis diuinis oppone illi nul laÌ„vel incertaÌ„ ex Scripturis sperari victoria nisi prius constet veri sint possessores scripturae illi an nos vbi sit vera fides et potestas exponeÌ„di scripturas Busaeus in Panatio Tit. Haeres as his fellowes pretended by way of preuention giues this caueat to his disciples If you cannot auoyd disputation with an heretique touching poynts of faith although you finde you are able to match him yet first demand of him from whence hee will deriue his arguments against the Catholique faith if he answere as commonly they doe Out of the sacred Scriptures tell him there is no victory at least but vncertaine to be hoped for from them vnlesse it may appeare who hath best right to the Scriptures and to whom belongs authoritie to expound them By this Iesuites confession the poynts in controuersie are sub judice in question to which side the right of Scriptures doe belong and to whom authoritie to expound them and sooth to say the controuersies of this age are now brought to this narrow issue that our aduersaries are well content to trie their cause by Scriptures if the Reformed Churches would graunt them but this one poore request That they may be sole Iudges and Interpreters of the Scripture A request no doubt which in most mens vnderstanding will seeme vnreasonable that Christ and his Apostles should bee iudged by man or that a man should bee Plaintiffe and Iudge in his owne cause It was the constant profession of Saint Austen August lib. Confess 13. c. 23. Men spirituall whether they rule or bee ruled iudge according to the Spirit but they iudge not of the spirituall knowledge which shineth in the firmament of the Scriptures for it is not lawfull for any man to judge ouer so high authoritie for bee the man neuer so spirituall yet must hee be a doer not a Iudge of the Law And in the conclusion of the Chapter hee giues his speciall reason for it There a man is said to bee Iudge where he hath power and authority to correct He therefore who shall first dare to correct the scripture let that man by S Austens rule assume authoritie to iudge them and as touching that Tenet that a man should be Plaintiffe and Iudge in his owne cause it was a doctrine so different from the Primitiue Church that in the midst of heresies I say in the first and best ages wherin Saint Austen and Epiphanius mention aboue fourescore heresies euen then when the Fathers had greatest reason to stand vpon the priuiledge of their Church they neuer made answere like the Romanists You must heare the Church and our Church is that Catholique Church that is the sole Iudge of controuersies and according to our Interpretation whose right it is to iudge of the Scriptures it is so and so but on the contrary they made the Scriptures sole Iudges of their cause and withall professed the Text of Scripture was the truest Glosse in expounding of it selfe I speake not this as if our reueren'd Diuines did make the Scriptures sole Iudges of our cause excluding the testimonie of the Church for we haue a church as wel as they we haue churchmen as well versd in Scriptures and Fathers as themselues neither doe wee denie the authoritie of the Fathers which ioyntly agree in poynts of faith for the right expounding of the Scriptures onely wee say the Authour of the Word who best knew his owne meaning was best able to expound himselfe and in this manner the ancient Fathers as they grounded their Church vpon the Scriptures so likewise they referred backe the meaning of the Scriptures vnto the Authour of them as if hee that was Iudge of all men should bee iudged of none and such wee know is the wisdome and goodnesse of God Eaverò quae in mysteriis occultat nec ipsa eloquio superbo erigit quo non audeat accedere mens cardiuscula et in erudita quasi pauper ad diuitem sed inuitat omnes humili sermone quos noÌ„ soluÌ„ manifestâ pascat sed etiaÌ„ secretâ exerceat veritate hoc in promptis qd â—â—reconditis habens Aug. Ep. 3. that hee hath oftentimes hidde these things from the wise and learned which he hath reuealed vnto babes and sucklings and as for those things which it hideth in miseries saith Austen it lifteth them vp not with stately speech whereby an vnlearned minde should not presume to approach as a poore man to a rich but with a lowly speech inuiteth all men that it might not only feed them with manifest but also exercise with obscure trueth hauing that in manifest that it hath in obscure places and as concerning obscure places the same holy Father tells vs Illi verò qui ea quae in diuinislibris obscura sunt intueri nequiuerint arbitrentur se digitum quideÌ„ meuÌ„ ineuers posse sydera verò quibê° demoÌ„strandis intenditur videre no posse et illi ergo et isto me reproheÌ„dere desinant et lumen oculorum diuinitùs sibi praeberi depreceantur Aug. de doct Chris l. 1. Prolog that if they cannot see the things which are obscure and dark in the Scriptures the fault is in themselues not in the precepts as if I should poynt with my finger at a starre which they would gladly see and their eye-sight were so weake that although they did see my finger yet they could not see the starre at which I poynt let them cease to blame me and let them pray to God that hee will giue them eye-sight And in his foure Books of Christian Doctrine where he purposely treateth of expounding the Scriptures he plainely prooueth that the meaning of the Word is learned out of the Word and the obscure places are expounded by the manifest and heerein hee toucheth the freehold of the Romane Church Magnificè et salubritèr spiritê° sanctê° ita Scripturas sanctas modisi auit vt
that Pygmeis being put vpon Gyants shoulders doe see further then the Gyants themselues But Bishop Fisher doth more warily excuse it and with plausible reasons assure vs that Many things Nec cuiquaÌ„ obscuruÌ„ est quin posterioribê° inge niis multa sint tam ex Euangeliis quaÌ„ ex scripturis c. Roffeas Consur Assert Luther Art 18. as well in Gospells as in the rest of the Scriptures are now more exquisitely discussed by later wits and more clearely vnderstood then they haue been heretofore eyther by reason that the yee was not as then broken vnto the Ancients neither did their age suffice to weigh exactly that whole sea of Scriptures or because in this most large field of Scriptures euen after the most diligent reapers some eares will remaine to bee gathered as yet vntouched How forcible motiues these reasons may seeme to other men I will not heere dispute sure I am they are vaine excuses for Romane Bishops and Cardinals who are bound by their generall Councell and the Popes Bull to obey the Exposition of Fathers as an Article of their faith But admit these opinions should bee excused for the particular Tenets of some priuate men let vs see how faithfully the Popes Pastors of these latter times haue interpreted the Scriptures with the vniforme consent of Fathers Moses saith Whit. Durae â—s in Camp 9. Reason pag. 269. God made man after his Image Pope Adrian interpreteth therefore Images must bee set vp in Churches Saint Peter saith Behold De obed maior vnaÌ„ sanctaÌ„ c. here are two swoâ—ds Pope Boniface concludes Therefore the Pope hath power ouer the spirituall and the temporall Saint Matthew saith Giue not that which is holy vnto dogs Iewels Defence p â—2 Mr. Harding expounds it Fiet vnum ouile et vnê° Pastor quod quidem de Christo intelligi non potest sâ—d dâ—â—liquo alio Ministroqâ—â— bresâ—t loco eius Ioh de Par sâ—de pot Reg Papati c. 30. therfore it is not lawfull for the vulgar people to reade the Scriptures Saint Iohn saith There shall bee one Fold and one Sheepherd Iohannes de Parisijs tels vs This place cannot bee expounded of Christ but must bee taken for some Minister ruling in his stead The Prophet Dauid saith Thou hast put all things vnder his feet Antoninus expounds it Anton. in sum part 3. tit 22. c. 5. Haebr 2. Thou hast made all things subiect to the Pope the cattle of the field that is to say men liuing in the earth the fishes of the sea that is to say the soules in Purgatory the fowles of the ayre that is to say the soules of the blessed in heauen And lastly whereas our Sauiour Christ witnesseth of himselfe In Concil Later sub Leo 10. p. 671. All power is giuen to me both in heauen and earth Stephen Archbishop of Patraca applyed it to Pope Leo the tenth in the Councell of Lateran in the audience of the Pope himselfe who thankfully accepted it and suffered it to bee published and printed and as it is rightly obserued by learned Du Moulin Pope Innocent the third in his Booke of the Mysteries of the Masse Buckler of faith pa. 30. the booke of sacred Ceremonies Durants Rationalls Tolet and Titleman and others do most ridiculously wrest the Scriptures altogether different from their right meaning and the Expositions of the Fathers as for instance The Scripture saith The Rocke was Christ therefore say they the Altar must bee of stone It is written I am the light of the world therfore Tapers must be set vpon the Altar It is written Let him kisse me with the kisses of his mouth therefore the Priest must kisse the Altar It is written Thou shalt see my back parts Exod. 33.23 therefore the Priest must turne his backe to the people It is written Laua me ampliús Psal 51. Wash mee againe therefore the Priest must wash his hands twise It is written Exod. 3.5 Put off thy shooes for this place is holy therefore the Bishop at Masse changeth his hose and shooes And lastly the Pope himselfe at the time of his coronation casteth certain copper money amongst the people vsing the words of Peter Siluer and gold haue I none but that which I haue I giue thee These and the like Expositions doe much resemble the strict order of Monkes who reading the words in Matthew Districtissimi MonachoruÌ„ simplicitèr intelligentes fecerunt sibi cruces ligneas easque sibi iugiter humeru circuÌ„ferentes c Ioh. de Polemar orat in CoÌ„cil Basil pag. 385. Hee that taketh not vp his crosse and followeth me is not worthy of mee made themselues woodden crosses and so carried them on their backes continually causing all the world to laugh at them for howsoeuer they may seeme to bee the expositions of some priuate spirits yet hee that makes oath in verbo Sacerdotis to receiue expound the Scriptures with the vniforme consent of Fathers and shall render such Expositions of the Text can bee no true Catholique Hieron 24. q 3. cap. Haeresis For whosoeuer doeth otherwise vnderstand the Scripture saith Hierome then the sense of the holy Ghost who is the Penman of the Scripture requires although hee hath not departed from the Church yet hee may bee tearmed an heretique But as the Fryar said wittily in his Sermon the trueth which hee preached was like holy water which euery one called for apace yet when the Sexton cast it on them they let it fall on their backs in like manner the Romanists seemingly call for the Scriptures they commonly vaunt that they expound and receiue them according to the vniforme consent of Fathers but as Vincentius Lyrinensis said of the heretiques of his time When they shall begin not onely to vtter those sayings Vbi caeperuÌ„t illas voces noÌ„ iam proferre sedetiam exponere non ad c. VinceÌ„t Lyrin c. 36. but also to expound them then the bitternesse then the sowernesse and madnesse is perceiued then a new deuised poyson will be breathed out then are prophane Nouelties disclosed then may you see the bounds of the ancient Fathers to bee remooued the Catholique Faith to bee then butchered and the doctrine of the Church torne in pieces Pope Pius the fourth who first published the Articles of the Creed was not ignorant that the Scriptures must be farre fetched and hardly strayned to make them speake for the Trent doctrine hee well vnderstood that it was too generall and strict a tye vpon euery Masse Priest to receiue and interpret the Scriptures with the vniforme consent of Fathers knowing well that many Masse Priestes were vtterly ignorant of the Fathers and therefore to qualifie the rigour of that oath adioyned these words to the aforesaid Article Artic. 2. Also that sacred Scripture according to that sense which the Mother Church hath holden whose right is to iudge of the true sense and
Bell de verbo Dei lib. 4. c 2. do signifie that doctrine which is not written by the first Author in any Apostolique Booke either for want of a continued succession in their Traditions or to make the ignorant beleeue the Scripture makes in all poynts for them I say for those very points which they terme Traditions vnwritten they produce the Word written See the Gag of the Gospell as for instance Purgatory is termed an vnwritten Tradition and therefore by Bellarmines testimony is not to bee found in any Apostolike Author yet the Cardinall Bel. de Purgatorio for this very poynt cites twentie seuerall places in the written Word to prooue it Invocation of Saints is a Tradition vnwritten and therefore not to bee found in Scripture yet the Cardinall prooues it out of the Word written Bell. de sancta Bâ—at l. 1. c. 20. Goe to my seruant Iob and he will pray for thee The Communion in one kind is a Tradition vnwritten and therefore not to be found in any Apostolique Author yet Fisher Bishop of Rochester proues it out of the Word written Roffen advers Luth. Aâ—t 16. Giue vs this day our daily bread Prayer and Seruice in an vnknowne tongue is a Tradition vnwritten and therefore not to bee found in Scripture Ledes de diuin scrip quauis linâ—uâ non legendâ c. 22. yet Ledesma the Iesuite prooues it strongly out of the Word written Our Sauiour opened the booke of the Prophet Esay and afterwards closed it How poore and weake are these and the like authorities deduced from the Scriptures I leaue to euery mans iudgement but sure I am the number of their Traditions is vncertaine and the nature of them is destroyed by their owne Tenets when they confound the written word with their vnwritten Doctrines It was the ancient rule of Vincentius Lyrinensis In ipsâ Catholicâ Ecclesia magnopere curandum est vt id teneamus qd vbique qd semper quod ab omnibê° credituÌ„ hóc est enim verè proprieque Catholicum qd ipsa vis nominis raticque declarat VinceÌ„t Lyrin c. 3. In the Catholique Church we ought to bee carefull to hold that which hath been beleeued in all places at all times and of all persons for that is truely and properly Catholique which the force and reason of the name doth declare Those men therefore which assume the name of Catholique and accurse all those who receiue not Traditions with equall reuerence and authoritie with the Scriptures let them proue that their doctrinall Traditions before named haue been euer held and beleeued at all times in all places and of all persons let them proue they were receiued with the vniforme consent of Fathers let them proue they were decreed in a constant succession from age to age from Christians to Christians throughout the whol vniuersal Church These are requisite conditions and ancient characters of Apostolique Traditions But that there are any such or euer were in the Chuch of Rome excepting those onely which are expressely or by necessary consequence deduced from the word of God although they are daily pretended by them yet to this day were neuer proued And hence it is that for want of sure footing and foundation in the Scriptures many Rituall Traditions and Obseruations of the ancient Church are changed and many doctrinall Traditions and Constitutions of the Roman Church are newly brought in which are pretended to be ancient Touching Rituall Traditions 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Bass de Spirit sanct ca. 27. Saint Basil tels vs It was not lawfull for any man to kneele in the Church vpon the Sunday and this Traditionn saith he was giuen vnto vs in secret charge by the Apostles of Christ Yet this Tradition is altered St. Austen saith Betweene Easter and Whitsuntide it was not lawfull for any man to fast Aug. ad Casulanum by the Tradition of the Apostles yet this Tradition is abrogated Sententiae haec infantibê° Eucharistiam esse necessariam cercitèr sexentos annos viguit in Ecclesia Mald. Com. in Iohn 6. The giuing of the Eucharist to Infants was an ancient Tradition continued in the Church six hundred yeeres after Christ saith Maldonat yet this Tradition is abolished And as touching the doctrinall Traditions and Constitutions of their Church which are made of equall authoritie with the Scripture you shall scarcely find any of them I say confidently you shall finde none of them to haue been receiued de Fide as Articles of faith with the Vniuersalitie of Churches the consent of Fathers and continued succession of the now receiued doctrine in all ages That this may the more plainely apeare I will examine the Tenets of the Papall Traditions ab Initio and see what the Romane Church in generall and the Greeke Church in particular which for many hundred yeeres communicated in the same Faith with the Romane hath taught and beleeued concerning their doctrine SECT VIII The most generall pretended Traditions of the Romane Church were vtterly vnknown to the Greeke Church and want Antiquitie Vniuersalitie and Succession the proper markes of true Traditions in the Roman Church TO examin the foundation of the Greek Church let vs look vp to the time of the Apostles where wee shall finde S. Iohn writing to the seuen Churches in Asia Reuel 1 11 and Saint Paul sending his Epistles to the Corinthians to the Ephesians to the Thessalonians all principall members of the Greeke Church In these Churches according to the doctrine of the Apostles there is nothing that makes for the now Romane Faith and Doctrine but rather against it and that the Romanists may not vainely arrogate to themselues the title of Catholike and Vniuersall Church as if the whole Christian Faith were confined to the Bishop of Rome and his Diocesse it is plaine and euident that Saint Peter taught the word at Antioch Saint Andrew in Greece and Muscouie Saint Iames in Iudea Saint Iohn in Asia Saint Philip in Assyria Saint Thomas in India Saint Matthew in Aethiopia Saint Thaddeus in Armenia Saint Paul in all the countreyes from Arabia to Slauonia St. Bartholomew in Scythia Saint Simon in Persia Ioseph of Arimathea in Great Britaine and all these published the same Faith for substance which wee at this day professe in the Church of England Looke vpon the Greeke Church in generall Terra Graecorum vndique destinata est fides Aug. Ep. 178. Ep. 170. Saint Austen tells vs From the land of Grecia the faith into all places was spread abroad and in particular Saint Chrysostome tells vs The name of Christians beginning first from the citie of Antioch as from a spring hath flowed ouer the whole world And without doubt that famous Citie in Greece gaue the first name and title to the Christians and therefore was called Theopolis Antioch the Citie of God It cannot bee denyed that the Easterne Church is before Rome in time shee hath larger bounds and multitudes
Monks of former ages giues the reason which occasioned the Romanists of these later times to stand vpon iustification of their Traditions About the time the Deuill was let loose that is to say a thousand yeeres after Christ certaine Monkes saith he for the vpholding of Pope Hildebrands faction desired other doctrines Alienas doctrinas appetunt magisteria humana institutionis inducunt Lib. de vnit Eccles p. 233. and brought in masteries of humane Institution and to preuent the knowledge of the truth they permitted not yong men in their Monasteries to studie the sauing knowledge of the Scriptures to the end Vt inde ingenium nutriatur siliquis daemoniorum qua sunt consuetudines humanarū Traditionū Ibid. p. 228. that their rude wit might bee nourished with the huskes of deuils which are the customs of humane Traditions that being accustomed to such filth they might not taste how sweet the Lord was This learned Author giues vs to vnderstand that the vnwritten doctrines in the Roman Church were but filth and huskes of Deuils which without doubt the heretiques of former ages had scattered and left behind them And thus the Priests and Fryars haue receiued the doctrine of Traditions from the Monks the Monkes from the heretikes and both ioyntly sympathize with the heretike Eutyches in the generall Councell of Chalcedon and make one and the same generall acclamation Concil Cha. Act. 1 Thus I haue receiued of my forefathers thus I haue beleeued in this faith I was baptized and signed in the same haue I liued till this day and in the same I wish to die I speake not this to decline the authoritie of Apostolique Traditions for I know well the same Apostle who tels the Scriptures are able to make vs wise vnto saluation giues also this warning to the Church of Thessalonica stand fast 2. Thess 2.15 and hold the Traditions which yee haue been taught whether by word or our Epistle Here the Apostle calls his owne written Epistle a Tradition and for ought can appeare that which hee taught by word of mouth was but the word written for a man may teach one and the same doctrine diuers waies but what Protestant I pray did euer refuse to hold the traditions which Saint Paul and the rest of the Apostles taught by word of mouth Wee generally confesse that they were of equall authoritie with the Word written but who can tell vs what Traditions those were if they were not written We may grant without preiudice to our cause that Saint Paul deliuered more to the Thessalonians by word of mouth then was conteined in that Epistle although the words alleadged inforce no such thing for wee take not vpon vs to maintaine that the first Epistle to the Thessalonians contained all the doctrine to saluation but doth it therefore follow that he deliuered more vnto them then was contained in the whole Scriptures When Paul came to Thessalonica three Sabbath dayes saith the Text hee reasoned with them out of the Scriptures He taught them Acts 17.2 that it behooued Christ to suffer and rise againe from the dead and that Iesus was Christ and after that Acts 26.22 hee witnesseth both to small and great saying none other things then those which the Prophets and Moses did say should come Therfore whatsoeuer hee deliuered to the Thessalonians although it be not found in his written Epistle yet it must needs be contained in the holy Scriptures Againe if the Thessalonians had insisted onely vpon vnwritten Traditions yet the Apostle would by no meanes approoue of it for hee professeth that the Iewes of Beraea were more noble then those of Thessalonica and there he giues the reason for it Acts 17.11 In that they receiued the Word with all readinesse of mind and searched the Scriptures daily whether those things were so And hence we haue an example of the vndoubted Traditions of the Apostles themselues which were examined by the touchstone of the Scriptures but no man can shew me that euer the Scriptures were examined by vnwritten Traditions We say therefore that all vnwritten Traditions which concerne the saluation of the beleeuer are either immediately or at least by sound inference deriued from the Scriptures and those also haue a manifest and perpetuall testimony of the Primitiue Church and the vniforme consent of succeeding Christians in all ages And whereas our adversaries charge vs that we likewise holde doctrinall Traditions which haue no foūdation in the Scriptures as namely the Canon of the Scriptures the keeping of the Sabbath the baptizing of Infants and the perpetuall Virginitie of the blessed Virgin it is sufficiently apparant that these things are also deriued from the Scriptures for as wee deny not that the Canon of the Scripture may bee tearmed a Tradition in a large sense yet wee say euen that Tradition is deriued also from the testimony of the Apostle Saint Paul yea and of Christ himselfe who witnesseth that whatsoeuer he spake was written in the Law in the Prophets the Psalmes vnder which none of the Apocryphall Books are contained Touching the Sabbath day wee hold the obseruation of it to bee perpetuall Acts 20.7 1. Cor. 16.2 Reue. 1.10 and vnchangeable because we find it noted in the Scriptures Touching baptisme of Infants Bellarmine himselfe prooues it first from the proportion betweene Baptisme and Circumcision secondly from two places of Scripture Iohn 3.5 Math. 19.14 Lastly concerning the perpetuall Virginitie of Marie although for the honour and sanctitie of that blessed Virgin wee beleeue it Index Biblicus in Regiis Biblus vocabulo Maria multis scripturae locis significari perpetuam virginitatem Maria ostendit yet this doctrine is not de necessitate but de pietate fidei it is more for pious credulitie then for necessitie and yet if we require Scripture for it the Fathers proue it out of the 44 of Ezech. 2. as Hierome sheweth in his Commentaries vpon that place Now if any man list to be contentious and demand of vs where it is written that the Sonne of God is of the same substance with the Father Where is it written that Christ is God and man subsisting in one person Where is it written that the holy Ghost proceedeth from the Sonne as well as from the Father or where is the word Trinitie to bee found written in the whole body of the Scripture If any man shall deny the truth of these things because they are not plainly in the same words deliuered in the Scriptures what can his question argue lesse then a plaine cauilling and shifting of a knowne truth for as Athanasius in the like case answered the Arrians touching the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of the substance with the Father Athan. Ep. quod decreta Synodi Nicaenae cōgruis verbis sunt exposita Albeit the word bee not found in the Scriptures yet it hath the same meaning that the Scriptures intend and import the same with them
whose eares are intirely affected towards Religion And in like manner Saint Austen made the like answere Quia etsi fortassè nomen ipsum non inueniret res tamē ipsa inveniretur quid est enim contentiosius quá vbi de re cōstat certare de nomine Aug. Epist 174. Albeit the word perhaps be not found there yet the thing it selfe is found and what more friuolous quarrell is it then to contend about the word when there is a certaintie of the thing I will not require of our aduersaries to shew mee in the Scriptures the word of Transubstantiation of Masse of Supremacie and the like because they receiue them as Traditions which are not conteined in the Scriptures but on the other side if any Romanist will deny that the Articles of the Apostles Creed are not contained in the Scriptures and yet will shew me in expresse words I beleeue in God the Father Almightie maker of heauen and earth or that the holy Catholike Church and Communion of Saints are the expresse wordes contained in the Scriptures I will subscribe to the Articles of the newe Romane Creed and allow all Papall Traditions for Apostolical For we doe not say that nothing is to bee beleeued de fide but what is written in the Scriptures in expresse termes but wee professe it must be directly or by necessary consequence deduced from the Scriptures It was the answere of Epiphanius to the disciples of Arius in the Primitiue Church Wee all of vs doe confesse the Father to be vnbegotten Epiphan haeres 69. nu 71. increate and it is surely an admirable saying but shew mee if you can where this saying is written for neither doeth the Law of Moses nor the Prophets nor yet the Apostles make any mention thereof If then we do piously acknowledge this saying though it were not written any where Idem haeres 75. who can find fault with vs though the word Coessentiall or Consubstantiall be not written As therefore we confesse the words Vnbegotten Increate Consubstantiall the word Trinitie and the like are not found in Scriptures so I thinke no Romanists will or can deny but that all those words are implyed in the Scripture or by necessary inference deduced from them To conclude therefore this second poynt and first Article of the Romane Creed since Papall Traditions haue no foundation in the Scripture nor are contained in any Apostolike author by our aduersaries confession since they want a continued succession from the Apostles time with vniuersalitie of Churches consent of Fathers since they are not resolued of a certaine and definite number of doctrinall Traditions which ought to be resolued in poynts of Faith Lastly since the Scriptures by the testimonies of both sides is the safest and furest rule for all beleeuers and since many Papall Traditions are different if not contrary to the Scriptures To follow vnknowne and vnwritten doctrines for knowne and written verities is Via dubia a doubtfull and vncertaine way it is Via deuia a wandring and By-way I proceed in the next place to the examination of the ancient Fathers whereby it shall appeare the Romish faith and doctrine as it wants Antiquitie and Vniuersalitie of Churches so likewise it is vtterly destitute of the consent of ancient Fathers SECT X. Our Aduersaries make great boast of the testimonies of the ancient Fathers in generall yet when they come to sifting particular poynts either by secret evasion they decline them or openly reiect them Cant. 1.7 and 6.1 TEll mee then O thou whom my soule loueth where thou feedest whither is thy beloued turned side that wee may seeke him with thee Shall wee seeke him in the Fathers Oh saith Campian If wee once name the Fathers Camp Rat. 5. the field is fought the wager is won on our side for they are all ours Yea saith Bristow In most matters of Controuersie they are so plain on our side Brist Mot. 14. that it cannot with any colour bee denied or called in question Yea Duraeus the Iesuit claimes a peculiar interest in the behalfe of the Roman Church Nos Patrū veri filii sumus Dur. coutr Whitak p. 125. 140. Wee onely are the true sonnes of the Fathers wee doe not cite them by the halues sometimes allowing one part of their doctrine sometimes reiecting another but we embrace them all And for confirmation of this assertion the Romanists in their Apologie or Petition of Lay Catholikes make this generall acclamation Apolog. or Pet. of Lay Cath. 1604. cap. 4. For one place of a Father sometimes ill cited sometimes falsified sometimes mutilated and sometimes wholly corrupted by Protestants we can produce a thousand not by patches and mammockes as they doe but whole pages whole chapters whole bookes and the vniforme consent of all the ancient Fathers and Catholique Church Thus the wicked Iewes claimed Abraham for their Father and thus the frantike Grecian claimed all the ships in Athens to bee his Thrasilaus when the poore man had least interest in them If Campian and his fellow Iesuites had been liuing in the dayes of the ancient Fathers surely they had been branded with the markes of heretikes for their false alarums for Carosus the Eutychian heretike although his claime reach not to all the Fathers Ego secundum expositionem trecentū octodecem Patrum sic credo c. Concil Chalc. Act. 4 p. 877. yet saith he according to the Exposition of three hundred and eighteene Fathers so I beleeue and in this faith was I baptized what should ye say more to mee I cannot tell And Dioscorus the heretike much like the Iesuit makes an open outcry in the Councell of Chalcedon Ego cum Patribus eiicior ego defendo Patrum dogmata ego horum habeo testimonia non simpliciter aut transitoriè sed in ipsorum libris expressum Concil Chalc. Act. 1. I haue the testimonies of the holy Fathers Athanasius Gregorie Cyril I varie not from them in any poynt I am throwne foorth and banished with the Fathers I defend the Fathers doctrine I haue their iudgement vttered not by chance or vnaduisedly but remaining expressed in their books Thus Paynims heretikes Iewes and Iesuits claime Antiquitie and Vniuersalitie in Traditions and Fathers yea the heretikes did glory and vaunt of the Fathers in the two famous Councels of Nice and Chalcedon in the very presence of the Fathers themselues yea Pelagius the heretike when he disagreed from the doctrine of the Fathers like a true Romanist thought to aduance his owne heresie by magnifying the Faith of Ambrose an ancient Father Blessed St. Ambrose saith he that Bishop Pelag. lib. 3. de lib. Arbitrio q. in whose bookes the Roman faith especially appeareth who like a beautifull flower shined amongst the Latine Writers whose faith and most pure vnderstāding of the scriptures the enemy himselfe dares not reprehend This is the very practise of the Romane church in these daies They glory
example of life and instruction of manners but yet it doth not apply them to establish any doctrine Conc. Trid. Sess 4. Church of Rome If any shall refuse the books of Maccabees for Canonicall Scriptures let him be accursed In hoc volumine omnia quae crudiuÌ„t cuncta quae aedificant scripta coÌ„tineÌ„tur Greg. in Ezek. l. 1. Hom 9. Aâ—tic 6. Scripturae sine Traditionibê° nec fueruÌ„t simplicitèr necessaria nec sufficientes Bell. de ver D noÌ„ scrip c. 4. et Conc. Trid. Sess 4 decret 1. The sufficiencie of the Scriptures Gregory Whatsoeuer serueth for edification and instruction is conteined in the Volume of the Scriptures Church of England Holy Scriptures containe all things necessarie to saluation Church of Rome Scriptures without Traditions are neither simply necessary nor sufficient Reading of the Scriptures Gregorie The Scripture is an Epistle sent from God to his creature that is to Priest and people If thou receiuest a letter from an earthly King Greg. lib. 4. Epist 40. ad Theedor Medicum This instructioÌ„ was to a Physician a lay man thou wilt neuer rest nor sleepe before thou vnderstand it The King of Heauen and God of men and Angels hath sent his Letters vnto thee for the good of thy soule and yet thou neglectest the reading of them I pray thee therefore studie them and daily meditate of the words of thy Creator and learne the heart and mind of God in the words of God Church of England The Scriptures are Manna and gi-giuen vs from heauen to feed vs in the desert of this world Iewel in his Treatise of the holy Scriptures pag. 46. 47. Let vs reade them and behold them and reason of them and learne one of another what profit may come to vs by them for all haue right to heare the word of God all haue need to know the word of God Index lib. prohib in obseruat circa Regulam 4. Church of Rome Wheras it is manifest by experience that if the holy Bible should be permitted to be read in the vulgar tongue it would bring more danger then benefit by the rashnesse of men therefore they are forbidden to the common people See Hard. in Iewel Art 15. diuis 3. yea and to Regulars to reade or retaine any vulgar Translation without the licence of their Bishops or Inquisitor The Reall Presence Gregorie Preciosi saÌ„guinâ— effusione genus humanum Christus redemit sacrosancti viâ—â—sficies car poris sui sanguinis mysterium meÌ„bris suis tribuâ—â— cuius perceptione corpus suum qd est Ecclesia pascitur potatur abluitur sanctificatur Greg. in 6 Psal poenitent Christ with the effusion of his most precious blood redeemed mankind and giueth vnto his members the most holy mysteries of his quickening body and blood by the participation whereof his body which is the Church is nourished with meat and drinke and is washed and sanctified Here Gregorie makes a plaine difference betweene the body of Christ offered on the Crosse and the mysterie of that body offered in the Sacrament and that we might know it was not a corporall but a mysticall body he tels vs Christs Body is the Church and that wee might yet further know the members of Christ were not fed with reall flesh and blood for there is nothing more absurd saith Bellarmin then to think the substance of our flesh should bee nourished with the flesh of Christ Bellar. de Euch. lib. 2. cap 4. hee tels vs they are nourished with meat drinke and withall are washed and sanctified by the mysterie of his body And to remoue all imaginations of a carnal presence hee proclaimes it elsewhere in the words of an Angel Greg. Hom. in Euan 21 Hee is risen hee is not here Christ saith hee is not here in the presence of his flesh yet hee is absent no where by the presence of his Deitie Church of England The Body of Christ is giuen Iewel Art 5. p. 238. taken and eaten in the Supper onely after a heauenly and spirituall maner Wee seeke Christ aboue in heauen and imagine not him to bee bodily present vpon the earth Church of Rome Conc. Trid. Sess 13. c. 1. In the Sacrament of the Eucharist after consecration our Lord Iesus Christ true God and man is truely really and substantially contained vnder the forme of sensible things Si fuissent mille hostiae in mille locis eo tempore quo Christê° perpendit in cruce Cristê° fusset crucifiâ—ous in mille locis Holcot in Sententque Insomuch as Holcot the Iesuit professeth If there had been a thousand Hosts in a thousand places at that very time when Christ hung vpon the Crosse then had Christ been crucified in a thousand places Priuate Masse Gregorie Let not the Priest alone celebrate Masse for as hee cannot performe it without the presence of the Priest and people Sacerdos Missam solê° nequaquam celebret Greg. in lib. Capitulari cap. 7. apud Cassand Liturg. 33. p. 83. so likewise it ought not to bee performed by one alone for there ought to be present some to whom he ought to speake and who in like maner ought to answere him and hee must withall remember that saying of Christ Where two or three are gathered together in my name I will be present with them Church of England The breaking of bread which is now vsed in the Masse Iewel Art 1. in fine signifieth a distribution of the Sacrament vnto the people as Saint Austen saith vnto Paulinus It is broken to the end it may bee diuided Church of Rome If any shall say that Priuate Masses in which the Priest alone doth Sacramentally communicate Conc. Trid. Can. 8. Sess 22. are vnlawfull and therefore ought to bee abrogated let him bee accursed Communion in both kinds Gregorie You haue learned what the blood of the Lamb is not by hearing De Consecrat Dist 2. Qâ—iâ— sit sanguis §. but by drinking Againe The blood of Christ is not powred into the hands of vnbeleeuers but into the mouthes of the faithfull people Church of England The Cup of the Lord is not to bee denied to the lay people Artiâ— 30. for both the parts of the Lords Sacrament by Christs ordinance and commandement ought to be ministred to all Christian men alike Church of Rome Although our Sauiour did exhibite in both kinds Conc. Trid. cap. 3. Sess 21. yet if any shall say the holy Catholique Church was not induced for iust causes to communicate the lay people vnder one kinde and shall say they erred in so doing let him be accursed Merit of workes Sunt nonnulli qui saluos se suis viribê° exultaÌ„t suisque praecedentibus meritis redemptos se esse gloriantur quorum profectò assertio inuenitur sibinetipsis contraria quia dum Innocentes se asserunt et redemptos hoc ipsuÌ„ in se redeÌ„ptionis nomeÌ„ euacuant In 28 1. Iob l. 18. c.
22. Aliud est secundum opera aliud propter opera reddere IdeÌ„ 7. Psal Poenit. Gregorie There are some which glory that they are saued by their owne strength and brag that they are redeemed by their own precedent merits but herein they contradict themselues for whilst they affirm that they are innocent and yet redeemed they frustrate the name of Redemption in themselues Againe If the blessednesse of the Saints bee acquired by mercy not by merits how is it said He will render to euery man according to his workes If it bee according to his workes how is it giuen of mercie It is one thing saith hee to giue according to their workes another thing to giue for their workes sake And from this ground hee makes this his confession I pray to bee saued Idem in 1. Psal Paenit not trusting to my merits but presuming to obtaine that by thy mercie alone which I hope not for by merit Church of England We are accounted righteous before God onely Art 11. by the merit of our Lord and Sauiour Iesus Christ by Faith and not our owne workes For to haue affiance in our workes Homily of goodworks as by merit of them to purchase to our selues remission of sinnes and eternall life is blasphemy Church of Rome Good workes are meritorious Rhem. Annot in Heb. 6. ver 10. and the very cause of saluation so farre that God should be vniust if he rendered not Heauen for the same Againe All good works done by Gods grace after the first justification Idem in 2. Tim. 4.8 bee truely and properly meritorious and fully worthy of euerlasting life and that thereupon Heauen is the due and iust stipend crowne or recompense which God by his Iustice oweth to the persons so working by his grace for hee rendreth or repayeth heauen as a iust Iudge and not onely as a mercifull Giuer and the Crowne which hee payeth is not onely of mercie or fauour or grace but also of justice Worship of Images Gregorie In his Epistle to Serenus Bishop of Masilia saith Greg. lib. 7. Epist 109. Your Brotherhood seeing certaine worshippers of Images broke the said Images and cast them out of the Church the zeale which you had that nothing made with hands should be worshipped we praise but wee thinke you should not haue broken them downe For Painting is therefore vsed in Churches that they which are vnlearned may by sight reade that on the walles which in bookes they cannot Your brotherhood should therefore haue spared the breaking of them and yet restrained the people from worshipping them AdorationeÌ„ omnibê° modis deuita Lib. 9. Ep. 5. that the rude might haue had how to come by the knowledge of the Story and yet the people not sinne in worshipping the picture Church of England The Romish doctrine concerning the worshipping and adoration Art 22. as well of Images as of Reliques is a fond thing vainely inuented and grounded vpon no Warrant of Scripture but rather repugnant to the VVord of God Church of Rome Wee teach Conc. Trid. Sess 25. that the Images of Christ the Virgin Mother of God and other Saints are chiefely in Churches to bee had and retained and that due honor worship is to be giuen vnto them The Popes Supremacie Gregorie Ego fidenter dico Lib. 6. ep 30 Mauricio Augusto Idem lib. 6. ep 24. lib. 4. ep 32. 34. 36 38. 39. I say confidently Whosoeuer calls himselfe or desires to be called the Vniuersall Bishop in the pride of his heart is the forerunner of Antichrist For the title of vniuersall Bishop is the puffe of arrogancie the word of pride a new pompous a peruerse foolish a rash a superstitious a profane an vngodly and wicked name a name of singularitie a name of errour a name of hypocrisie a name of vanitie and a name of blasphemie And writing to Eulogius Bishop of Alexandria hee makes this profession For mine owne part Greg. lib. 7. ep 30. I seeke to increase in vertues and not in words for if you call me Vniuersall Bishop you denie your selues to be that which you confesse to be wholly in me but God forbid let vs rather put farre from vs these words which puffe vp pride and vanitie and wound Charitie to the death Church of England It is plaine that the Bishop of Rome challengeth this day a title that St. Peter neuer had Iewel Art 4 Diuis 4. that no holy nor godly man would euer take vpon him that St. Gregorie vtterly refused and detested and called blasphemy Church of Rome The Supremacie of the Bishop of Rome may bee prooued by fifteene seuerall Names or Titles Bell. de PoÌ„t lib. 2. c. 31. as namely the Prince of Priests the High Priest the Vicar of Christ the vniuersall Bishop and the like and from those high and mightie Titles they haue created this Article of faith Wee declare Subesse Romano Pont. omni humanae creaturae declaramê° dicimus definimus pronunciamus omninò esse de necessitate salutis Bonif. 8. in extran de Maior Obed. Cap. Vnam SanctaÌ„ c. we pronounce wee define that euery creature vpon necessitie of saluation must be subiect to the Bishop of Rome Thus briefly I haue giuen you the principall poynts of doctrine deliuered by Gregorie and from these his seuerall confessions I hope the Romanists will giue me leaue to returne them their owne assertion If an Angel from heauen teach other doctrine Touching the books of Maccabees the All-sufficiencie and reading of the Scriptures the Reall presence Priuate Masse Communion in both kinds Merit of workes Worship of Images and the Popes Supremacy I say with our aduersaries If an Angel froÌ„ heauen teach other doctrine then in these particulars we haue receiued from Gregorie we are not to heare him I proceed from Fathers to Councels and vpon a reviewe of the Fathers Doctrine I will here conclude Since the ancient Doctors are no Rules of our Faith nor haue any power to bind as Bellarmine confesseth since their bookes are sometimes purged their authorities sometimes condemned as spurious and counterfet as their Inquisitors confesse since their Expositions with an vniforme consent are sometimes decreed for an Article of Faith Bulla Pij 4. Artic. 2. sometimes declined by their best learned Romanists as namely Card. Bellarmine Andradius Card. Cajetan and Card. Baronius professe And lastly since the Scripture is the most certaine and most safe Rule of faith Scriptura regula credendi certissima tutissimaque Bellar. as it is acknowledged on both sides I say to leaue this certaine and safe rule and to follow the Fathers in all and tread in their steps as children doe in sport it is Via Dubia a doubtfull and vncertaine way it is Via Devia a wandring and By-way SECT XIIII Councells which are so highly extold and opposed against vs were neither called by lawfull authoritie or to the right ends as
performe an act meritorious The beliefe then of the Romish doctrine doeth not consist altogether in the trueth of it but in the faith of the beleeuer for let it be true or false if it bee receiued with an affected ignorance and a blinde obedience the partie shall be safe as it were by fire that is as they elegantly vnderstand it shall goe through the fire of Purgatory to heauen Cardinall Cusanus hath giuen his voice with Cardinal Tollet that it is the safest and surest way to relie vpon the Priest as Ruler of the people without further inquirie of the trueth and thereupon he cries out with admiration as if hee would astonish his Disciples with the name of the Church QuaÌ„ firma est aedificatio Ecclesiae quia nemo decipi potest etiam per maluÌ„ praesidentem Si dixeris Domine obediui tibi in praeposito hoc tibi sufficiet ad salutem tu enim per obedientiam quam facis praeposito queÌ„ Ecclesia â—olerat decipi nequis etiaÌ„si praeceperit alia quaÌ„ debuit praesumit enim ecclesia de illa sententia cui si tu obedieris magna erit meâ—ces tuâ— Obedeenâ—â—â—t â—tur irrâ—â—tionalis est coâ— suâ—mâ—ta obedientia et per fectissima scil quando obeditur sine inquisitione rationis sicut tumentuÌ„ obedit domino suo Cusan Exist lib. 2. lib. 6. O how strong is the building of the Church for no man can be deceiued no not by an euill Bishop if thou say vnto God O Lord I haue obeyed thee in my Bishop this shall suffice thee vnto saluation for thou canst not bee deceiued by thy obedience that thou yeeldest to the Bishop whom the Church suffereth although hee commaund thee other things then he ought to doe for the Church presumeth his sentence to bee good which sentence if thou obey thy reward shall bee great Obedience therefore without reason is a full and perfect obedience that is when thou obeyest without inquiring of reason as a horse is obedient to his Master The Bishop or Priest then is the man we must obey and beleeue for his lips preserue knowledge his tongue will tell no lies but what if hee faile in his doctrine what if hee erre in his opinion are we sure he doeth euer deliuer the constant Tenet of his Church Admit then Saint Bernard were aliue and if a poore ignorant soule should come vnto him and demand of him whether hee thinke it possible for a man to keepe the Commandements will he say that a man may keep them for the Church teacheth so Bernard in Can. Serm. 50. when as he himself confidently affirmeth Therin thou shalt yeeld vnto vs that the Commaundements neither haue been fulfilled by any man in this life nor indeed can bee Admit that Thomas Aquinas were aliue and one of his disciples should desire to be resolued what worship to giue an Image would he tell him it must be worshipped with Dulia an inferiour honour when as himselfe protesteth Quod eâdeÌ„ reuerentia exhibeatur Imagini Christi vt ipsi Christo Aquin. p. 3. q. 25. art 3. that the Image of Christ is to bee honoured with the same honour that Christ himselfe is Admit that Cardinal Caietan were aliue and one should desire to know whether the Bookes of Macabees were canonical Scriptures would hee teach they were Canonicall when his fellow Canus professeth Canus li. 2. loc Theol. cap. 11. hee was so farre from teaching it that hee maintained the contrary Looke vpon the grand fundamental point of Transubstantiation if a Romanist will consult with the Priests and Bishops of these late ages it will appeare there could be no certaintie for an ignorant lay man to build his faith vpon the resolution of his Priest or Prelate As for instance in this particular poynt If a lay Papist had required satisfaction of Bishop Fisher Whether the doctrine of Transubstantiation was grouÌ„ded vpon the authoritie of the Scripture it is presumed he would haue answered according to his owne writing Roffens contr Capt. BabylonicaÌ„ c. 10. N. 8. O. Non potest per vllam Scripturam probare It cannot bee proued by any place of Scripture If hee had appealed from the Bishop to a Court of Cardinals Cardinall de Aliaco would haue told him Patet quod ille modê° sit possibilis nec repugnat rationi nec authoritati Bibliae c. Pet. de Alliac in 4. Sent. q. 6. Art 1. Caier in 3. part q. 79. Art 1. The maner which supposeth the substance of bread to remaine is possible neither is it contrary to reason nor the authoritie of the Scriptures Card. Caietan would haue told him That part which the Gospell hath not expressed wee haue receiued expresly from the Church viz. the conuersion of the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ Card. Bellarmine would haue told him It is not altogether improbable that there is no expresse place of Scripture to prooue it Bellar. de Euch. lib. 3. cap. 23. and it may iustly bee doubted whether the Text bee cleare enough to inforce it Againe admit an ignorant lay man would require the iudgement of particular Priests in former ages Bertram a Priest would haue told him Bertr of the body and blood of Christ ann 1623. In respect of the substance of the creatures looke whatsoeuer they were before Consecration they are euen the same after Bellar. de Euch. l. 5. c. 15. Peter Lombard and Aquinas would haue told him that the Sacrament of the Altar was a commemoratiue sacrifice because it communicated the effects of the real killing of Christ Ante Lateranense CoÌ„cilium non fuit dogma fidei Scot. in 4. Sent. dist 11. q. 3. Scotus would haue told him Transubstantiation was not beleeued as a point of faith before the Councel of Lateran about 400 yeeres agoe Durand would haue told him The materiall part of the consecrated bread was not conuerted Durand 4. d. 11. q. 1. Bell. de Euchar. lib. 3. cap. 13. All these were Priests and members of the Romane Church they were Defenders of the Roman Faith in their times they declared by their Writings and Instructions to the people that doctrine which was altogether different if not flatly opposite to the Tenet of the now Roman Church And from hence it will follow that either the Roman Church doth want that Vnitie in poynts of Faith which they so much magnifie amongst themselues or otherwise it is an vnstable and a doubtfull way to relie vpon the instructions of his Bishop or Priest for the assurance of his right beliefe Moreouer that the Cardinals Bishops maintained a different doctrine from their owne Church it will appeare by the seuerall confessions confutations of their own Church-men Touching Bertram Bellar. de Script Eccles Tom. 7 p 121. Bellarmine saith Paschasius Ratbertus liuing at that time wrote a booke against him and confuted his errour Touching Peter Lombard