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A10834 A iust and necessarie apologie of certain Christians, no lesse contumeliously then commonly called Brownists or Barrowists. By Mr. Iohn Robinson, pastor of the English Church at Leyden, first published in Latin in his and the churches name over which he was set, after translated into English by himself, and now republished for the speciall and common good of our own countrimen; Apologia justa et necessaria quorundum Christianorum, aeque contumeliose ac communiter, dictorum Brownistarum sive Barrowistarum. English Robinson, John, 1575?-1625. 1625 (1625) STC 21108; ESTC S102955 59,722 74

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wall as sayth the proverb This balad-maker comparing the receaved religion in the Dutch churches to a tree the Sectaries in the countrie of which he nameth not a few to certayn beasts endeavouring this trees ruine and overthrow likens the Brownists to a litle worme gnawing at the root thereof and not having lesse will but lesse power to hurte then the residue Wee are indeed wormes and not men the reproach of men and despised of the people whom high and low and all that will may without daunger tread and trample under foot But to giue thee satisfaction Christian and indifferent Reader whosoever thou art that chusest rather to take knowledg of mens innocencie then to condemn the same unknown and that it may appear unto thee how alike unhonest our adversaries are in their accusations though of unlike condition in themselus We do professe before God and men that such is our accord in the case of religion with the Duch reformed churches as that we are ready to subscribe to all and everie article of faith in the same church as they are layd down in the Harmonie of Confessions of fayth published in their name one onely particle and the same not of the greatest weight in the sixth Article touching the Scriptures being conveniently interpreted and conformably to it self the generall judgment of the learned amongst them The scope of the Article is as appears in the margent to distinguish between the books Canonicall and Apocriphall as they are called Touching which Apocryphall notwithstanding it is judged and affirmed that they may be read in the Church Which if it be meant of their private reading by the members of the church we willingly assent if of publique pastorall and ecclesiasticall reading we are indeed otherwise mynded neither admit we any other books to that dignitie in the church then such as were penned by the Holy men of God moved by the Holy Ghost 2 Pet. 1 21. And as the Apostle Iames testified of the Iewes that they had Moses read in the Synagogue everie Sabbath day so we think it sufficient for the Christian assemblyes that with Moses Christ that is the books of the new testament be joyned with the old and they alone be read Neither need we seek further or for other Arguments to confirme our opinion then the Article it self affoardeth us The words thereof are these Moreover we put a difference between the Holy writings and those which they call Apocryphal to wit so as the Apocryphall may indeed 〈◊〉 read in the church that it may be lawfull to take instructions from ●hem so far sorth as they agree with the canonicall books but such 〈…〉 hand is their authoritie or firmnes that upon their testimonie any doctrine of faith and Christian Religion may be founded much lesse that they haue force to infringe or weaken the others authoritie And first if the Apocriphall books be publiquely read in the Church as well as the Canonicall the difference which in word is professed seems indeed by this so reading them to be taken away since the selfe same religious act viz. publique reading is performed about the one and other although not altogether to the same end And if publique reading of the Canonicall Scriptures be commanded of God in his worship either the reading of these Apocripha books is a parte of Gods worship also which the Belgick Churches do not beleiv or els they must be unlawfull to be read publiquely in the Church especially comming together for that onely end of worshipping God Publiquely I say for the private reading of them as of other books comes not under the respect of worship properly but of an act and exercise preparati●● unto worship as both Law●ers and Divines speak Secondly in this verie Article the Canonicall bookes as opposed to the Apocriphall are called holy writeings The Apocriphall then are not holy as not being hallowed to this end that is not commaunded of God in the holy writeings of the Prophets and Apostles Now what haue the holy assemblies to do especially convening and meeting together for the solemn worship of God and exercising themselus in the same with books not holy that is not hallowed or injoyned of God for his most holy service● Thirdly seeing these books are Apocriphall that is hidden and concealed their verie name may put them in minde of their duetie in concealing themselvs within the vaile of privacie And surely no small immodestie it is in them which ought to conteyn themselus in private use and interteynment thus bouldly to presse into publique assemblie They must therefore change either their names or their manners as women by their sex so they by their name well expressing their nature are inhibited all libertie of speaking in the church I●d and conclude out of our countrie-man M. Broughton that those Apocriphall books are so stuffed with trifles fables lyes and superstitions of all sorts that the midle place between the ould and new Testament as ill becomes them as it would do a Turkish slaue and leaper between two the noblest Princes of all Europe But to return whence I dig●essed Seing that as appears in the preface the intention of the Belgick Churches was as in divulging their Confession to render a reason of the hope which is in them and plainly to make known their perswasion in the matter of fayth so also in publishing the Harmony of Confessions to giue all men to understand and take knowledg of that most near conjunction which they haue with the sacred and truely Catholique church of God and all the holy and sound members thereof by what tight or rather injurie could we be excluded from the followship of the same churches who do 〈◊〉 better accorde and have greater congruitie with them in the matter of fayth religion then the greatest part of those whose confessions they do publi●● to the veiw of all men as the congnissance and badges of their Christian consociation And with what conscience of a Christian or rather licentiousnes of a Rhymer could that adversarie traduce us to the world as endeavoring the ruine of the reformed churches But perhaps that which may be is suspected to be by some which also the false accuser doth insinuate in his libell against us and that what in word we professe we denye in deed and what we would seem to build with our tongues we do as it were with our hands pull down If so it be and that in deed we be found to be such I doe freely confesse that no censure upon us can be too severe no hatred more greivous then we do deserv Now the guilt of this evill must cleav unto our fingers if at all one of these two wa●es either in regard of our selvs or of the reformed Churches For our selvs and our course of life for necessitie compelleth as it were foolishly to bable out that wherein modestie perswadeth silence and how we converse with God and men whether
formes wherewith also they equalize their own are parts and portions of the same Scriptures More particularly And first for Psalms I deny that there is th● same reason of a prayer and of a Psalm or whereupon the difference hangeth that singing and praying are all one For the question is not which I desire the Reader once for all to bea●●●n minde eyther of the internall affection of him which singeth or prayeth or of the subject matter of the song or prayer but of the externall act and exercise of praying and singing Now these two exercises both the holy Scriptures and common sence in everie man that pleaseth but to open his eyes and look upon them do plainly difference For first if to sing be to pray then whosoever singeth prayeth but how far from truth this is the Psalmes of David 1 2 and many others in which not the least parcell of prayer is to be found do plainly evince 2. Is any man sad amongst you sayth the Apostle let him pray is he merry let him sing To pray then and to sing are not the same nor which do agree to wit primarily with the same constitution of the minde 3. In prayer the Pastours voyce is onely heard unto which the people as the Apostle teacheth are to add their Ame● but in singing all the multitude have as well their part for tunable voice as the pastour himself Neyther can divers possibly sing together without confusion but by a certain and set form both of words and syllables which yet may be done in church prayer and is everie where 4. We have the same Apostle els where teaching us thus Speaking to your selvs in Psalms Hymnes and spiritual songs c. And again Let the word of Christ dwell in you plenteously with all wisdom teaching and admonishing yourselvs mutually in Psalms Hymns c. In singing then we doe speak to our selvs or one to another mutually but in praying neither to our selvs nor to our brethren but unto God alone And the reason hereof is evident When as we read or sing the Psalms of David for what other thing is it to sing out of a book then to read with a loud and harmonious voice of which Harmonie singing is a kinde these self same Psalms in this verie use do still remain and so are read or sung as a part of the word of God in the holy Scriptures and in which God speaketh unto us whereas on the other side we do speak unto God in all our prayers whether mentall onely or vocall withall 5. Even these verie Psalmes whose matter is prayer and thanksgiving were framed and composed by the prophets into Psalms and spirituall songs for this verie end that the men of God might in them teach us as in the written word of God whereof they are parts both what petitions they in their distresses put up to the Lord and also what thanksgiving they returned upon their deliverance that so we in reading singing them might instruct and admonish ourselvs both publiquely privatly whether by way of doctrine or admonition or consolation for the promoteing of the glorie of God in our hearts Lastly that I may discend unto them who are onely taught by experience If any going out of the temple wh●lst the Church were singing a Psalm either before or after sermon being asked of one that met him what the church were then doing should answer that it were at prayer would he not be judged by all men to tell a ly But altogether without cause if to sing be to pray as many imagine Touching the Lords prayer We deny it to be the meaning of Christ teaching his dise ples when they pray to say Our father c. to binde them and the Holy Ghost in them by which they ought to pray to a certain form of words sillables which they should repeat by heart or which is our question read out of a book Because 1. the two Euangelists Matthew and Luke of whom both the one and other did aright both understand and expresse the meaning of Christ do not precisely keep the same words 2. By these words when you pray is meant whensoever you pray whereupon it should follow that we were tyed to this stint of words alone and alwaies and so might lawfully use none other except it be lawfull for us sometimes to pray raither by the levell of our own dev●se then of Christs prescript The words therefore of Cyprian are good in a good sence To pray otherwise then Christ hath taught is not onely ignorance but guilt seeing he himself hath sayd you reject the precept of God that you may observ your own tradition 3. Amongst the manie and manifould prayers of the Apostles to be seen in the holy scriptures this form of words is not found and yet can it not be denyed but they alwaies prayed as they were taught in this place by their Master Christ whose meaning therefore it could not be to tye them necessarily to anie such certain of words 4. It appears by the context that the purpose of Christ is to speak of private or raither secret prayer and such as everie Christian apart from others and in his closet with the doore shut unto him should pour out unto the Lord. Now that one alone and by himself should say Our father seems not verie congtuous Lastly seeing of the like there is the like consideration If the Apostle Iames in these words Go to now ye that say to day or to morrow we will goe into such a cittie c. and vers 15. For that ye ought to say if the Lord will we shall live and doe this or that do neither simplie fault with the form of words nor prescribe necessarily anie other but onely to use Calvins words wakens them from their dream who without respect of the divine providence will make themselvs maysters of a whole yeare when there is not a moment in their power so neither are we to conceav that our Saviour Christ Math. 6. and Luke 11 doth injoin unto his anie set words to pray in but onely shewes whither all our prayers and vowes ought to be referred as with all other orthodox writers about this matter the said Author speaketh howsoever divers uns●kilfull men cease not still to sing unto us euen to loathsomnes the song when you pray say as the Papists do theirs This is my bodie as though the controversie were about the words and not raither about the meaning of them But for that we are verie odiously traduced by divers as abhorring from this form and that we will not as they use to speak say the Lords prayer I will in few and plain terms set down what our judgment is about it 1. And seeing that as the Poet hath it the names do commonly suit with the things we may see and sorrow withall in the phrases in common use about this most Christian