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A20964 The waters of Siloe To quench the fire of purgatory and to drowne the traditions, limboes, mans satisfactions and all popish indulgences, against the reasons and allegations of a Portugall frier of the order of St. Frances, supported by three treatises. The one written by the same Franciscan and entituled The fierie torrent, &c. The other two by two doctors of Sorbon. The one intituled The burning furnasse. The other The fire of Helie. By Peter Du Moulin minister of Gods word. Faithfully translated out of French by I.B.; Accroissement des eaux de SiloƩ. English Du Moulin, Pierre, 1568-1658.; Barnes, John, fl. 1600-1621, attributed name.; I. B., fl. 1612. 1612 (1612) STC 7343; ESTC S111086 158,344 552

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principle_n lest_o our_o people_n shall_v overlabour_v themselves_o to_o defend_v it_o for_o as_o well_o it_o make_v against_o purgatory_n it_o be_v better_v say_v they_o that_o the_o soul_n shall_v do_v but_o in_o purgatory_n they_o suffer_v they_o be_v miserable_o roast_v certain_a hundred_o of_o year_n admit_v that_o to_o roast_n be_v to_o do_v yet_o be_v it_o better_a to_o do_v in_o heaven_n and_o so_o to_o have_v the_o action_n of_o angel_n as_o for_o the_o contribution_n that_o we_o shall_v bring_v to_o the_o attain_n of_o salvation_n the_o holy_a scripture_n prescribe_v we_o other_o mean_n to_o attain_v thereto_o it_o will_v we_o to_o believe_v in_o jesus_n christ_n to_o carry_v his_o cross_n leave_v all_o worldly_a cogitation_n to_o tend_v to_o the_o aim_n of_o supernatural_a vocation_n and_o to_o make_v perfect_a our_o salvation_n with_o tremble_a and_o with_o fear_n thus_o be_v there_o a_o mean_n to_o labour_v for_o our_o salvation_n yet_o such_o as_o our_o labour_n shall_v 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oration_n over_o a_o box_n of_o triakle_n or_o a_o game_n at_o gobelet_n the_o auctor_fw-la of_o the_o fire_n of_o helie_n do_v likewise_o wrest_v my_o word_n he_o make_v as_o he_o be_v abash_v say_v he_o because_o we_o say_v that_o the_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n do_v satisfy_v by_o their_o pain_n because_o they_o do_v not_o but_o only_o they_o suffer_v but_o i_o never_o speak_v it_o 25_o upon_o this_o fire_n already_o quench_v we_o poor_a as_o a_o surplusage_n this_o aspersion_n take_v out_o of_o a_o book_n indeed_o apocryphal_a yet_o such_o a_o one_o as_o our_o adversary_n do_v hold_v for_o canonical_a thus_o speak_v the_o book_n of_o wisdom_n cap._n 3._o v._n 1._o of_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o faithful_a the_o soul_n of_o the_o righteous_a be_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n &_o no_o torment_n shall_v touch_v they_o then_o shall_v they_o not_o go_v into_o purgatory_n he_o add_v at_o their_o departure_n they_o enter_v into_o peace_n than_o not_o into_o a_o fire_n cap._n 4._o against_o man_n satisfaction_n in_o general_n pvrgatory_n thus_o raze_v which_o be_v the_o forest_n and_o most_o scorch_a satisfaction_n let_v we_o go_v forward_o and_o search_v it_o even_o to_o the_o root_n reverse_v in_o general_a all_o the_o satisfactory_a pain_n that_o our_o adversary_n do_v impose_v upon_o the_o sinner_n and_o now_o that_o we_o be_v come_v to_o the_o word_n satisfy_v you_o be_v to_o understand_v that_o there_o be_v two_o sort_n of_o satisfy_v satisfy_v exposition_n of_o the_o word_n satisfy_v the_o one_o for_o debt_n the_o other_o for_o offence_n debt_n we_o satisfy_v by_o pay_v offence_n by_o confess_v the_o fault_n and_o crave_v pardon_n this_o in_o true_a speech_n be_v to_o make_v satisfaction_n now_o in_o this_o question_n we_o deal_v with_o the_o mean_n how_o to_o satisfy_v god_n for_o our_o offence_n which_o be_v not_o by_o pay_v or_o redemption_n but_o by_o humble_v of_o ourselves_o with_o amendment_n and_o ask_v forgiveness_n as_o therefore_o we_o do_v admit_v this_o kind_n of_o satisfaction_n which_o signify_v the_o confess_v of_o our_o fault_n and_o humiliation_n before_o god_n so_o on_o the_o other_o side_n we_o reject_v such_o satisfaction_n as_o be_v hold_v for_o redemption_n and_o payment_n to_o god_n justice_n 80._o pag_n 80._o the_o monk_n bear_v himself_o after_o his_o ordinary_a manner_n in_o a_o ridiculous_a insolent_a ignorance_n these_o be_v his_o word_n in_o this_o place_n i_o conjure_v the_o reader_n without_o passion_n to_o consider_v the_o grossness_n of_o the_o minister_n for_o have_v bring_v he_o into_o such_o term_n that_o he_o can_v not_o unsay_v himself_o he_o bethink_v he_o of_o the_o most_o notable_a cavil_n in_o the_o world_n namely_o that_o where_o the_o ancient_n do_v use_v this_o word_n satisfy_v they_o use_v it_o in_o this_o signification_n to_o have_v fault_v as_o who_o will_v say_v nolim_fw-la factum_fw-la slander_n a_o slander_n yea_o he_o have_v presume_v to_o set_v this_o down_o in_o writing_n these_o last_o 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