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A73451 Bels trial examined that is a refutation of his late treatise, intituled. The triall of the nevve religion By B.C. student in diuinitie. VVherein his many & grosse vntruthes, with diuers contradictions are discouered: together with an examination of the principal partes of that vaine pamphlet: and the antiquitie & veritie of sundry Catholike articles, which he calleth rotten ragges of the newe religion, are defended against the newe ragmaster of rascal. In the preface likewise, a short viewe of one Thomas Rogers vntruthes is sett downe, taken out of his booke called. The faith doctrine and religion, professed and protected in the realme of England, &c. with a short memorandum for T.V. otherwise called Th. Vdal. Woodward, Philip, ca. 1557-1610. 1608 (1608) STC 25972.2; ESTC S125583 118,782 210

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pag._n 168._o he_o labour_v to_o insame_n we_o after_o this_o manner_n baptism_n quoth_v he_o serve_v for_o the_o put_v away_o of_o original_a sin_n only_o and_o that_o we_o teach_v this_o doctrine_n he_o prove_v out_o of_o s._n thomas_n of_o aquine_n who_o he_o quote_v in_o the_o margin_n but_o in_o such_o sort_n that_o it_o seem_v he_o mean_v not_o that_o we_o shall_v ever_o find_v it_o he_o reser_v we_o to_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr sac._n altar_n which_o have_v two_o and_o thirty_o long_a chapter_n not_o specify_v any_o one_o in_o particular_a ensorcinge_v his_o reader_n by_o this_o mean_n either_o to_o believe_v he_o or_o to_o great_a labour_n before_o he_o can_v reprove_v he_o but_o this_o cunning_a must_v not_o serve_v his_o turn_n i_o challenge_v he_o confident_o of_o a_o untruth_n never_o shall_v he_o be_v able_a to_o justify_v either_o out_o of_o that_o book_n or_o any_o other_o what_o he_o object_v against_o that_o myrrhour_n of_o learning_n glorious_a s._n thomas_n of_o aquine_n as_o who_o teach_v far_o otherwise_o as_o i_o will_v by_o more_o particular_a reference_n now_o declare_v wherefore_o in_o the_o 1._o 3_o part_n q_o 69._o artic._n 1._o three_o part_n of_o his_o sum_n he_o propound_v this_o question_n whether_o by_o baptism_n all_o sin_n be_v take_v away_o to_o which_o he_o answer_v affirmative_o and_o in_o the_o article_n follow_v he_o confirm_v the_o same_o verity_n especial_o in_o the_o seven_o where_o he_o move_v the_o question_n whether_o the_o open_n of_o the_o gare_fw-la of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v a_o effect_n of_o baptism_n which_o he_o resolve_v in_o this_o manner_n i_o answer_v and_o say_v that_o to_o open_v the_o gate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v to_o remove_v the_o impediment_n by_o which_o one_o be_v hinder_v to_o enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o this_o impediment_n be_v sin_n and_o the_o punnishement_n due_a to_o sin_n but_o before_o it_o be_v prove_v that_o by_o baptism_n all_o sin_n and_o all_o punnishement_n due_a to_o sin_n be_v take_v away_o whereof_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o open_v of_o the_o gate_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v the_o effect_n of_o baptism_n let_v mr._n rogers_n now_o go_v and_o tell_v such_o as_o will_v believe_v he_o that_o s._n thomas_fw-la teach_v baptism_n to_o take_v away_o original_a sin_n only_o pag._n 169._o and_o 170._o he_o accuse_v we_o as_o though_o we_o teach_v baptism_n give_v to_o infant_n by_o protestant_a minister_n not_o to_o be_v lawful_a a_o untruth_n as_o he_o may_v learn_v out_o of_o the_o council_n bapt._n ses._n 7._o can._n 4._o de_fw-fr bapt._n of_o trent_n where_o this_o canon_n be_v deliver_v if_o any_o shall_v say_v that_o baptism_n which_o be_v give_v of_o heretic_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n and_o the_o some_o &_o the_o holy_a ghost_n with_o intention_n to_o do_v that_o which_o the_o church_n do_v not_o to_o be_v true_a baptism_n be_v he_o accurse_v but_o say_v he_o in_o france_n and_o flanders_n the_o contrary_a have_v be_v practise_v for_o prosse_v whereof_o he_o send_v we_o to_o a_o other_o place_n of_o his_o book_n where_o no_o such_o thing_n be_v find_v and_o never_o shall_v he_o show_v we_o to_o teach_v that_o any_o baptize_v by_o protestant_n with_o due_a matter_n form_n and_o intention_n aught_o to_o be_v baptize_v again_o pag_n 183._o christ_n have_v satisfy_v quoth_v he_o and_o be_v offer_v only_o for_o original_a sin_n a_o error_n of_o thomas_n aquinas_n nay_o rather_o it_o be_v a_o most_o shameless_a untruth_n of_o thomas_n rogers_n no_o place_n do_v he_o quote_v and_o no_o marqaile_n when_o he_o know_v not_o where_o to_o find_v it_o be_v this_o the_o fidelity_n this_o the_o sincerity_n &_o conscience_n of_o the_o pretend_a preacher_n of_o the_o
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