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A34345 Considerations about subscription, humbly submitted to the convocation, on behalf of the conformable clergy with some reflections on the late subscription, made by our dissenting brethren. 1690 (1690) Wing C5906; ESTC R18960 13,980 37

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as thorough a Protestant as any Dissenter in England tells us The end of Christs going down into the Hell of the Damned was only to fasten Condemnation to the Devils and his Angels to * Another Opinion hath obtained especially in our Church that the end for which Christ Descended into Hell was to Triumph over Satan and all the Powers below within their own Dominions Bishop Peirson ubi sup p. 247. See B. Bils p. 294. Triumph over the Principalities of Darkness to secure us from being surprized by them and to prevent our going thither not to fetch back any that were there already But that Christ Descended into the Hell of the Damned was generally received by Protestants is asserted by this Doctor And that others of our Church are of another Opinion I grant but then it doth the more strongly infer the necessity our Church lieth under of Declaring her sense of it and that until thus much be done the safest way of Subscription is as Chillingworth Usher and Bramhall affirm it to be However let the Subscription be after what manner soever it is manifest that this Reverend Nonconforming Brother can never Subscribe this one Article in his expounded sense more honestly than we subscribe all the rest And that notwithstanding his severity against us for subscribing the 4 Controverted Articles the Liturgy c. it 's not over difficult to run him and his Brethren to the same straits for subscribing 36 which he thinks he hath driven us unto by reason of our larger subscription We find as many Perplexities in those Articles they subscribe as they can shew us in any they refuse and even in this one Article I doubt not but the more Learned and thoughtful amongst that Party will see enough to Perplex them The Learned Arch-Bishop was of Opinion that it Usher ubi sup p. 417. was too Perplexing To speak the Truth saith he it is a matter above the reach of the common People to enter into the Discussion of the full meaning of this Point of the Descension into Hell He therefore leaves it to be considered by the Learned whether any such Controverted matter may fitly be brought in to expound the Rule of Faith by which being common both to the Great and Small Ones in the Church must contain such verities only as are generally agreed upon by the common consent of all True Christians Artic. 4. Christ took again his Body with Flesh and Bones and all things appertaining to the Perfection of Man's Nature wherewith He Ascended into Heaven and there sitteth c. The words of this Article are Plain and easie enough to be understood for what can Flesh Bones and all things Appertaining to the Perfection of Man's Nature import less than what to use the School term we call formally Flesh and Bones and it 's as clear that herewith Christ Ascended into Heaven and there he sitteth so that there is no need of an Exposition of this Article where the Sense is so evident we may immediately declare our Assent or Dissent And this Reverend Brother instead of Explicating it writes a confutation of it In your Preface you tell us that you Subscribe them and that you may not be Unconscionably Rash in subscribing you here tell all whom it may concern how you understand the words which you Subscribe And under this Article which speaks of formal Flesh and Bones you assure us that the Body of Christ now in Heaven is not the same thing which we call formally Flesh and Bones your subscription therefore must be in this sense by Flesh you mean not Flesh by Bones you mean not Bones and so Subscribe to this Part of the Article that Flesh and Bones are in Heaven Whether any of our Church ever did or can Subscribe in a larger sense let the World Judge Artic. 6. In the name of the Holy Scriptures we understand those Canonical Books of the Old and New Testament of whose Authority was NEVER any doubt in the Church These words are as Exclusive as the wit of Man can Invent What Books soever-therefore of whose Authority there hath been any doubt in the Church are by this Article shut out from the Number of Canonical Scriptures and yet to this Article this Reverend Brother doth thus subscribe Expos Not excluding the Epistle to the Hebrews James 2 Peter Jude 2 and 3 John Revelation which divers Churches long doubted of This Article excludes from the Canon all those Books of whose Authority there have been any doubt in the Church and you subscribe in a sense which excludes not every such Book so that by Never you mean not Never and in this sense subscribe If it be said that all our Clergy do the same I answer we do not by subscription Assent to every Article we only Promise not to contradict them waiting for the time in which the Church will Establish our sense or some other way give ease to the subscriber But this worthy Person doth expose our distinction and subscribes himself very strictly by putting this loose and contradictious sense on the Article I could give many other instances of this Nature but these are enough and yet I cannot forbear adding one more because this great Man hath said so much against it and yet unawares subscribed unto it without an Exposition The sixth Point of our Non-conformity saith he is a New The English Non-conformity c. 9. Article of Faith in these words in the Rubrick which we must profess Assent and Consent unto it is certain by the Word of God that Children which are Baptized and Dying before they Commit actual Sin are undoubtedly Saved This is a New Article never made for us before 1662. But wherein doth the New Article differ from this Assertion That Infants being Baptized and Dying in their Infancy are by Christs Sacrifice washed from their Sins brought to Gods Favour and made his Children and Inheritors of his Kingdom of Heaven Both these Articles speak of Infants Baptized and that Indefinitely and of their Dying in their Infancy or which is the same before actual Sin is committed and being washed from their Sins by Christ's Blood brought to Gods Favour made his Children and Inheritors of his Kingdom of Heaven signifie so much as that they shall be undoubtedly saved these several expressions are a full Description of Salvation I can see then no difference de re between these two Articles and how New soever the former may be the latter is as Old as the Homilies of our Church which our Clergy have subscribed above an Hundred Years And if we consider in what Homily this Article is and for what reason it is there inserted I am inclined to think that on an enquiry this Reverend Person and the Dissenting Ministers will be found to have really subscribed it It is in the Homily of Justification and it is there inserted as a special ground of the Comfortableness of that wholsom Doctrine we will therefore