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A08784 The safegarde from ship-wracke, or Heauens hauen compiled by I.P. priest Pickford, John, 1588-1664? 1618 (1618) STC 19073; ESTC S113775 226,989 398

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fulke_n terent●e_v &c_n &c_n p._n 106_o &_o conf●t_o of_o purgat_fw-la p._n 78._o 20_o 326_o &_o 34●_n 30●_n 3●2_n 393_o &_o 194._o m._n fulke_o affirm_v that_o it_o prevail_v with_o in_o the_o first_o three_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o also_o say_v that_o ambrose_n allow_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o that_o it_o be_v the_o common_a error_n of_o his_o time_n also_o that_o austin_n blind_o defend_v it_o and_o chrysostome_n and_o hierome_n approve_v the_o same_o yea_o that_o tertullian_n cyprian_n austin_n hierome_n and_o a_o great_a many_o more_o do_v witness_n that_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v the_o tradition_n of_o the_o apostle_n bucer_n say_v entit_fw-fr say_v in_o sacra_fw-la quatuor_fw-la euang._n print_v e●●leae_n anno_fw-la 15_o 6_o in_o mat._n cap._n 12_o pag._n 311._o chem._n examen_fw-la pag_n part_n ●_o pag._n 93_o 94_o 107._o m_o asch_fw-mi a●olog_n pro_fw-la cae●a_fw-la domini_fw-la etc._n etc._n pag_n 1._o act_n 17_o ●4_n m_o fulk_n confut_o purgat_fw-la pag._n 35_o and_o against_o rhent_a in_o 2._o thessa_n 2_o sect._n 19_o fol._n a 1_n they_o exam_n part._n ●_o pag._n 100.101.110_o d_o bridges_n in_o hi●_n defence_n of_o the_o govern_v &c_n &c_n pag._n 917._o euseb_n l._n 5._o hist_o c._n 26._o &_o high_a in_o catul._n m._n sut_o de_fw-fr presbyteris_fw-la c._n 1●_n p._n 91_o m._n orin_n in_o his_o picture_n of_o apuritan_n print_v 1605_o fol._n g._n 2.3.6_o diony_n l._n de_fw-fr eccla_n hierarch_n c._n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la entit_fw-fr that_o prayer_n and_o alm_n be_v make_v for_o the_o dead_a almost_o from_o the_o very_a begin_n of_o the_o church_n chemnitus_fw-la likewise_o confess_v as_o much_o yea_o general_o this_o point_n of_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v so_o confess_o ancient_a that_o our_o learned_a adversary_n m._n ascham_n be_v force_v to_o say_v that_o no_o first_o begin_n thereof_o since_o the_o apostle_n time_n can_v be_v show_v likewise_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v 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certain_o the_o best_a witness_n of_o antiquity_n for_o he_o seem_v to_o be_v most_o ancient_a etc._n etc._n m._n oliver_n ormerode_n say_v i_o refer_v you_o to_o tertullian_n justine_n martyr_n cyprian_n etc._n etc._n but_o what_o do_v i_o cyte_v these_o father_n dionysius_n areopagita_n who_o live_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n make_v mention_n of_o the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n also_o the_o protestant_n treatyse_v ult._n treatyse_v consensus_fw-la orthodoxus_n tiguri_fw-la anno_fw-la 1578._o fol._n 198._o 198._o archbishop_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 105._o sect_n ult._n entitle_v as_o in_o the_o margin_n allege_v and_o affirm_v dionysius_n who_o write_v the_o eccle._n hierarch_n to_o have_v live_v anno_fw-la 96._o the_o lord_n archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n allege_v dionysius_n say_v dionysius_n areopagita_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr calesti_fw-la hier._n &_o 7._o chapter_n speak_v thus_o etc._n etc._n see_v also_o m_o cooper_n late_a bishop_n of_o winchester_n in_o his_o dictionarium_fw-la historicum_fw-la etc._n etc._n annex_v to_o his_o thesaurus_fw-la print_v 1578._o at_o the_o word_n dionysius_n arcopagita_n in_o like_a manner_n concern_v lymbus_n patrum_fw-la whereas_o 14._o whereas_o tom_fw-mi 1._o l._n 4._o de_fw-la christi_fw-la anima_fw-la c._n 14._o cardinal_n bellarmine_n allege_v in_o proof_n thereof_o the_o plain_a testimony_n of_o the_o greek_a father_n justine_n irenaeus_n clemens_n origen_n eusebius_n basil_n nazianzen_n nissen_n epiphanius_n chrysostome_n etc._n etc._n and_o of_o the_o latin_a father_n tertullian_n hippolytus_n cyprian_n hilary_n gaudentius_n prudentius_n ambrose_n hierome_n ruffinus_n augustine_n leo_n vulgentius_n etc._n etc._n our_o adversary_n danau●_n answer_v to_o their_o testimony_n say_v 773._o say_v ad_fw-la robertin_n bellarm._n disput_fw-la part_n 1._o pag._n 176._o s●c_fw-la m._n jac._n in_o m._n bilsons_n book_n of_o the_o full_a redemption_n of_o manland_a pag_n 188._o see_v also_o m._n bilson_n in_o his_o survey_v etc._n etc._n pag_n ●56_n and_o m_o jacob_n himself_o in_o his_o defence_n of_o the_o te●●yse_n of_o chr_n stes_fw-la suffering_n 199._o &_o 200._o m_o whitaker_n con●ra_n duraeum_n 8._o pag._n 567._o &_o 773._o as_o concern_v they_o they_o be_v not_o instruct_v out_o of_o god_n word_n neither_o do_v they_o confirm_v their_o opinion_n by_o it_o but_o only_o by_o their_o own_o conjecture_n etc._n etc._n in_o like_o plain_a manner_n do_v m._n jacob_n affirm_v say_v all_o the_o father_n with_o one_o consent_n affirm_v that_o christ_n deliver_v the_o soul_n of_o the_o patriarch_n and_o prophet_n out_o of_o hell_n at_o his_o come_n thither_o and_o so_o spoil_v satan_n of_o those_o that_o be_v in_o his_o present_a possession_n m._n whitaker_n answer_v to_o duraeus_n testimony_n from_o the_o father_n concern_v this_o point_n of_o ●ymbus_fw-la patrum_fw-la saying_n what_o thou_o can_v not_o overcome_v by_o scripture_n thou_o will_v without_o doubt_n effect_n