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hunc_fw-la locum_fw-la say_v the_o house_n in_o which_o god_n dwell_v be_v the_o whole_a congregation_n of_o the_o faithful_a who_o be_v to_o be_v teach_v diverse_o and_o the_o same_o church_n be_v in_o the_o perfect_a a_o pillar_n that_o be_v sublime_a straight_o inconcussible_a support_v and_o lift_v up_o the_o young_a sort_n and_o in_o the_o same_o perfect_a it_o be_v the_o firmament_n of_o truth_n because_o both_o by_o word_n and_o example_n it_o confirm_v in_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o weak_a the_o verity_n of_o faith_n and_o god_n commandment_n thus_o you_o see_v the_o church_n be_v by_o these_o testimony_n understand_v to_o be_v the_o congregation_n of_o the_o faithful_a and_o not_o general_a counsel_n or_o pope_n and_o it_o be_v true_o gather_v out_o of_o these_o word_n of_o anselmus_fw-la which_o be_v to_o be_v teach_v that_o the_o church_n consist_v aswell_o of_o the_o laity_n as_o the_o clergy_n now_o if_o you_o will_v see_v how_o the_o church_n may_v be_v know_v chrysostome_n say_v 49_o hom._n in_o mat._n 49_o before_o it_o may_v be_v show_v many_o way_n which_o be_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n but_o now_o it_o be_v no_o way_n to_o be_v know_v but_o only_o by_o the_o scripture_n s._n augustine_n say_v as_o we_o may_v true_o say_v of_o the_o papist_n let_v the_o donatist_n say_v he_o show_v their_o church_n 16._o de_fw-fr unitat_fw-la eccles_n ca._n 16._o not_o in_o the_o rumour_n and_o speech_n of_o the_o man_n of_o africa_n nor_o in_o the_o counsel_n of_o their_o bishop_n nor_o in_o their_o discourse_n of_o any_o writer_n whosoever_o nor_o in_o sign_n and_o miracle_n that_o may_v be_v forge_v but_o in_o the_o prescript_n of_o the_o law_n in_o the_o prediction_n of_o the_o prophet_n in_o the_o verse_n of_o the_o psalm_n in_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o shepherd_n himself_o in_o the_o preach_n and_o work_n of_o the_o evangelist_n that_o be_v in_o all_o the_o canonical_a authority_n of_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n and_o bind_v himself_o to_o the_o 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appear_v canon_n 21._o in_o the_o sixth_o general_a council_n 72._o can._n 72._o the_o marriage_n betwixt_o catholic_n and_o heretic_n be_v judge_v to_o be_v void_a now_o whether_o these_o be_v gross_a and_o manifest_a error_n i_o refer_v it_o to_o the_o censure_n of_o any_o indifferent_a reader_n but_o these_o absurdity_n they_o be_v force_v to_o give_v way_n to_o or_o else_o to_o overthrow_v that_o main_a pillar_n of_o popery_n that_o the_o church_n can_v err_v the_o last_o part_n which_o i_o promise_v to_o show_v be_v that_o counsel_n be_v reject_v by_o the_o papist_n this_o be_v prove_v for_o that_o many_o thing_n be_v reject_v by_o they_o in_o both_o the_o say_a exception_n but_o i_o will_v instance_n some_o few_o more_o andradius_fw-la the_o defender_n of_o the_o tridentine_a council_n in_o his_o first_o book_n reject_v the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n one_o of_o those_o first_o four_o counsel_n which_o gregory_n profess_v to_o receive_v as_o the_o holy_a gospel_n say_v this_o council_n err_v in_o that_o it_o do_v rash_o and_o without_o reason_n ordain_v that_o the_o church_n of_o constantinople_n shall_v be_v above_o the_o church_n of_o alexandria_n and_o antioch_n pont_n conc._n chal._n de_fw-fr laicis_fw-la ca._n 20._o praefat._n in_o li_n the_o pont_n bellarmine_n say_v that_o in_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n there_o be_v something_o good_a and_o something_o evil_n and_o that_o we_o may_v receive_v the_o one_o and_o refuse_v the_o other_o and_o in_o another_o place_n he_o dispense_v with_o himself_o to_o reprove_v in_o the_o samâ—_n manner_n the_o council_n of_o constantinople_n for_o have_v attempt_v somewhat_o that_o do_v not_o â—lease_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n 7._o bellar._n de_fw-fr conc._n &_o eccles_n li_z 10._o ca._n 60.70_o pighi_n hier._n eccles_n li._n 6._o cap._n 4._o &_o 5._o &_o 7._o and_o he_o reject_v whole_o seven_o general_a counsel_n read_v likewise_o what_o pighius_fw-la have_v write_v of_o purpose_n â—o_o discredit_v the_o sixth_o and_o seven_o synod_n and_o â—e_n impugn_v the_o council_n of_o constance_n and_o basil_n now_o though_o we_o have_v prove_v the_o three_o particularity_n propose_v wherein_o our_o lawful_a and_o â—â—st_n exception_n against_o counsel_n be_v evident_a â—et_o let_v we_o see_v whether_o our_o assertion_n in_o this_o point_n â—e_v justify_v both_o by_o the_o father_n and_o chief_a and_o â—earned_a papist_n saint_n augustine_n say_v that_o general_a counsel_n be_v often_o amend_v the_o former_a by_o â—he_n late_a and_o if_o our_o adversary_n object_n that_o â—hey_n be_v amend_v but_o not_o from_o error_n what_o â—éede_n amend_v where_o no_o fault_n be_v the_o â—_z which_o s._n augustine_n repeat_v in_o the_o â—â—rst_a endure_v to_o the_o last_o si_fw-mi quid_fw-la fortè_fw-la à _fw-la veritaâ—e_fw-la deviatum_fw-la est_fw-la if_o in_o aught_o they_o swarm_n from_o â—he_n truth_n and_o it_o be_v manifest_a by_o the_o drift_n of_o â—he_n place_n write_v against_o the_o donatist_n 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