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A01324 A reioynder to Bristows replie in defence of Allens scroll of articles and booke of purgatorie Also the cauils of Nicholas Sander D. in Diuinitie about the supper of our Lord, and the apologie of the Church of England, touching the doctrine thereof, confuted by William Fulke, Doctor in Diuinitie, and master of Pembroke Hall in Cambridge. Seene and allowed. Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1581 (1581) STC 11448; ESTC S112728 578,974 809

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have_v be_v satisfy_v in_o this_o book_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 26._o the_o eight_o head_n be_v the_o adoration_n late_o confute_v the_o nine_o that_o they_o affirm_v wicked_a man_n to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n for_o which_o he_o send_v we_o to_o his_o authority_n cite_v lib._n 2._o ca._n 7._o &_o li._n 5._o ca._n 9_o where_o thou_o shall_v find_v the_o confutation_n as_o of_o the_o rest_n so_o quote_v by_o he_o the_o ten_o that_o they_o teach_v our_o body_n to_o be_v nourish_v with_o christ_n flesh_n &_o blood_n li._n 2._o ca._n 5._o li._n 3._o ca._n 15._o &_o 16._o the_o 11._o that_o they_o teach_v we_o to_o be_v natural_o unite_v to_o christ_n lib._n 5._o cap._n 5._o the_o 12._o that_o they_o affirm_v christ_n body_n to_o be_v on_o the_o altar_n in_o the_o hand_n in_o the_o mouth_n and_o the_o blood_n to_o be_v in_o the_o cup_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 5._o the_o 13._o that_o they_o give_v it_o such_o name_n as_o only_o may_v agree_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n 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