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A77118 An account of the Church Catholick: where it was before the Reformation: and, whether Rome were or bee the Church Catholick. In answer to II. letters sent to Edward Boughen, D.D. Boughen, Edward, 1587?-1660? 1653 (1653) Wing B3812; Thomason E690_7; ESTC R202278 48,893 64

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Ordination 6. The Canonicall Books of the Old Testament and some other And yet for all these they grew up together comfortably and continued in the same body Seldome or never any that offer'd to make a breach or to censure other Churches for these or the like different observations and expressions but two or three Bishops of Rome Such were the humility and charity of those glorious Saints In those purer dayes (l) Neminem judicantes aut a jure communionis aliquem si diversum sensevit amoventes Cypr. in concil Carthag one Bishop was not so forward to censure or excommunicate another Bishop for being of a diverse persuasion No no saith St. Cyprian (m) Ib. Neque quisquam nostrum Episcopum se esse Episcoporum constituit aut tyrannico terrore ad obsequendi necessitatem collegas suos adegit No man in those dayes took upon him to be Bishop of Bishops or to enforce any by tyrannicall terror to subscribe his dictates Then was it lawfull for every one to speak his minde freely when reason not power weight and not number bore the sway 41. But you object that (n) n. 8. I say Sect. 19. that since the Reformation we have not communicated with the Church of Rome Very right I doe so But withall I tell you that this is no fault of ours since ye will not suffer us to communicate with you unlesse we communicate with your errors Is not this to deal with us as the Jews did with the poor man that was born blinde (o) St. Jo. 9.34 while he was blinde the Pharisees communicated with him but when he had gained sight they cast him out they excommunicated him But (p) Ib. v. 35. our blessed Saviour took pity on him and received him into his communion Thus while we were blinde and saw not your errors we were your dear friends but when we discerned them and complained of them hell was good enough for us Yet we doubt not but (q) 1. St. Jo. 1.3 we have communion with Christ since we hold communion with the Apostles by their successors not onely in function but in faith and charity For we receive the two Testaments with the three Creeds in the same sense with the Primitive Church We pray for the whole Church for all Jews Turks Infidels and Hereticks yea for our enemies persecutors and slanderers We anathematize not Churches but errors nor any persons but such as are or ought to be members of this Church and Kingdome we presse not beyond our line If this be the right way to heaven surely we are in the right and ye in the wrong 42. Well (r) n. 9. the Church of Rome and England being thus separated both in faith and communion and so not one and the Church of Rome and those in communion with her by your saying not being the Catholick Church For the separation we must thank you for our faith we blesse Christ What that is the Book of Common-prayer manifests in plain terms and I have shewed that the Pope and his Conclave have incurred Canonicall censures by imposing a new Creed upon us and others That we communicate not with you the fault is yours and Catholicks we shall be able to prove our selves when ye will not be found Orthodoxe But such is that typhus Romanus the infinite pride of Rome that none shal be Catholicks none in communion of the Church nor in the way to heaven that will not stoop to their lure that will not erre with Pius Quartus and the Councel of Trent As if the Romanes were the onely at least had been the first Christians and that St. Peter's keyes were tyed to the Popes girdle to let in and to keep out whom he listed Whereas we know (s) St. Jo. 20.22 23. the keyes were given to all the Apostles alike to St. John for Ephesus as much as to St. Peter for Rome Yea (t) Hieron St. Peter himself provided for Antioch before Rome for he was first Bishop of Antioch The same keyes to all the Apostles for all Nations alike that so all might be admitted by the same keyes into the same (u) 1. Tim. 3.15 house of God which is the Church of the living God the pillar and ground of truth And in this house by Gods grace we shall continue while (x) Col. 2.19 we hold the head and from thence receive nourishment by those joynts and bands which Christ hath ordained And * For the judgment of the whole controversie we refer unto the most holy Scriptures and the Catholick Church of Christ The Protest of Bish Scory c. Book of Mart. p. 2120 were your party contented to be ruled by antiquity we might be one as the house is one 43. That the Church of Rome and those in communion with her are not as you would fain have it the Catholick Church is fully manifested in my former answer § 2 c. 12 22 23 29. And yet there was the Catholick Church at all times since it was first constituted (y) Aug. de Gen. ad lit imperfect c. 1. Mater enim Ecclesia Catholica dicitur ex eo quia universaliter perfecta est in nullo claudicat per totum orbem diffusa est the Mother Church is hence called Catholick because she is universally perfect and halts in nothing and is diffused through the whole world She is not Catholick or sound because she communicates with Rome but Rome is Catholick if she communicate with her and so is every Church We shall therefore communicate with this our Mother that so we may continue Catholick We are sure the Mother halts not though some of the Daughters may That Rome hath halted downright in the prime Articles is too notorious as hath been shewed § 18 27 32 c. and then I am sure she was not Catholick (z) Vincent Lirin c. 14. Nemini enim licet praeter id quod Ecclesia Catholica usquequaque evangelizat accipere for it is not lawfull for her or any other to receive or broach any other doctrine then that which the Catholick Church preaches every where much lesse to enforce it as necessary to salvation Where then ye leave the Church Catholick it is our duty to leave you (a) Estnè aliquis tantae audaciae qui praeter id quod apud Ecclesiam adnunciatum est adnunciet vel tantae levitatis qui praeter id quod ab Ecclesiâ accipit accipiat Ib. This Church he speaks of is not the Romane but the Catholick Church As it is audaciousnesse in you to induce or impose any new Article so were it levity in us to embrace it 44. What we have we have received from our good Mother the Catholick Church and though by you yet not from you Christs legacies they are not yours If ye deliver us these legacies in base or counterfeit coin we shall not accept of it Gold ye received from the Testator and not
upon Apostolicall truth insinuates this unto us thus we know it thus we beleeve it And for the Sacrifice of the Masse as ye call it we acknowledge it to be a Commemorative Sacrifice Let us have the Communion in both kindes presse us not to beleeve Transubstantiation or any of your late inventions and I know no reason but we may frequent that which ye call the Sacrifice of the Masse I shall not quarrel the word when the main matter is agreed upon 37. Heretofore whatever you think so little exception was there to our Divine Service Worship Sacraments Prayers and holy Rites that those two memorable Bishops (q) Bo. of Mar. Bonner and Gardiner communicated with us in them and so did most of the Romane Catholicks of this Nation for ten yeers under Queen Elizabeth till that terrible Bull of Pius Quintus came thundering out Yea Bishop Gardiner subscribes that the Common-prayer book is a devout a godly a Christian Book and Order c. * Ib. p. 1357. But as it was with the Donatists so is it much alike with you (r) Aug. de Verb. Dom. Ser. 49. c. 10. they in the height of pride trumpeted it out Nos sanctificamus nos justificamus nos facimus justos we are the men that sanctifie we are the men that justifie we make you just Ecce quo ascenderunt Behold to what an height they were grown And are not ye ascended to a strange height to say Nos facimus Catholicos Wee are they that make men Catholicks Side with us and ye are Catholicks differ from us in the least point and ye are Hereticks St. Paul is of another minde (s) Ro. 14.3 4. in meats in matters of indifferency in such things that are not of necessity to be done we are not to judge one another (t) Phil. 3.15 16. If in these kinde of things and such as tend to perfection of life we be otherwise minded God shall reveal even this unto us so that we walk by the same rule whereto we have attained That is (u) Chrysost in loc so we preserve the same faith and keep the same commandements So St. Chrysostome These these are the rule we must be sure to walke by 38. From Divine service you descend to the publick Statutes and Laws of the Land whereby it is enacted (x) n. 8. that any one who should reconcile one of the Church of England to the Church of Rome is guilty of death And reason good since ye have so many traitrous principles against the Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy against the honor and safety of Princes Indeed what is this reconciling to Rome which by the Laws is condemned but a withdrawing of the people from their obedience to give that to the Pope which is due to their Prince This is plain by the Statute whose words are these (y) 3. Jac. 4. That person who shall put in practise to absolve perswade or withdraw any of his Majesties Subjects from their naturall OBEDIENCE TO HIS MAJESTY or to reconcile them to the Pope or Sea of Rome or to move them or any of them to PROMISE OBEDIENCE TO ANY PRETENDED AUTHORITY OF THE SEA OF ROME That then every such person their Procurers c. shall be adjudged Traitors and being thereof lawfully convicted shall have judgment and suffer as in cases of High Treason You see the Law and the reason of this Law If this will not satisfie the same Statute sayes moreover that (z) Ib. It is found by daily experience that many his Majesties Subjects that adhere in their hearts to the Popish Religion by the infection drawn from thence and by the wicked and devillish counsel of Jesuites Seminaries c. are so far PERVERTED IN POINT OF LOYALTY and due allegiance as they are ready to entertain and execute any treasonable conspiracies and practises as appears by the Gunpowder-treason By this time you see the reason of this Act and cannot deny it to be just 39. But if you speak truth a Priest that shall but celebrate Masse is made guilty of High Treason So you say but upon search I can find no such Statute Indeed an Act there is that (a) 23. Eliz. 1. Every person that shall say or sing Masse being thereof lawfully convicted shall forfeit the summe of 200 Marks and be committed to prison till he pay this summe And (b) Ib. Every person that shall willingly hear Masse shall forfeit the summe of 100 Marks and suffer imprisonment for a yeer The like penall Laws have been heretofore set forth by the best Christian Emperours (c) Socrat. l. 1. c. 6 Sozom. l. 1. c. 19. by Constantine the Great against the Arians But the Donatists were Schismaticall Sectaries and (d) Aug. ep 48. against these he made also a Decree that so many of those as refused to be united to the Church should forfeit their personall estates Many such Laws are to be seen in the African Code And our Saviours command is that (e) St. Luc. 14.23 the people be compelled to come into his house And this care hath been taken for the good of all sorts of Recusants that so (f) 1. Eliz. 2. 23. Eliz. 1. they might be drawn to Church to serve God with one mind and one mouth which every National Church is bound to doe Care therefore is taken that (g) Cod. Eccles Vnivers can 81 we pray with the people But how doe they pray with the people who pray in a tongue the people understand not (h) Ib. Neither ought we in times of peace to communicate with such as meet in private houses and frequent not the Church prayers (i) Ib. And they that abhorre one Church are not to be received into another Yee therefore that will not communicate in prayers with your own Mother Church ought not to be received by any member of the Catholick And in doing so in receiving such as you are Rome offends against the Laws of the Catholick Church 40. These Canons are little observed little thought of all that is studyed in these dayes is to continue the breach and to make it wider Hence is this exclamation (k) n. 8. How therefore can one Church Christs mysticall hody grow up together of such different members That Christs mysticall body consists and growes up of different members is clear 1. Cor. 12.12 c. and all these receive life and power from the same head even those very members that are distorted or diseased The sound hand therefore cannot say to the lame leg or gouty foot Thou art not of the same body but according to the directions of the head the sound hand provides and applies a plaister to the diseased member Observable it is that between the Eastern Western Churches were many differences viz. 1. About the observation of Easter 2. Rebaptization of Hereticks 3. Procession of the holy Ghost 4. The number of Sacraments 5. The manner of