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A03413 A counter-snarle for Ishmael Rabshacheh, a Cecropidan Lycaonite. By Sr. Edward Hoby, Knight, one of the gentlemen of his Maiesties Priuie-Chamber Hoby, Edward, Sir, 1560-1617. 1613 (1613) STC 13539; ESTC S104126 27,129 84

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And that you may see hee meanes no double dealing he is well pleased the whole world should be witnesse adding this protestation that he is sorry he hath withheld his due so longe But to return to that Marble pillar that glorious Saint that euer admired Augustine I cannot but deplore my hard hap that I should be indited for the least wronge done to him to whose heauenly Meditations sweet sayings and learned discourses I owe more then the half of my self Would any man beleeue that I shold father that booke de mirabilibus sacrae scripturae vpon him z Pag. 122. Varius ait Scaurus negat Rabshacbeh auerres that Indeed I cannot denie that finding it in their owne Coppies in equall rancke with those other bookes that goe vnder the title of Saint Augustine his workes and hauing no other certaine or knowne author vnder whose name I mought cite it I was loath to trouble the margent with any Circumloquution cōtenting my self only to note where it might be found And this I did to a double end First to draw and extort from the aduersarie an open confession of the falsehood of their forefathers in packing and placing their bastardly brood amongst the naturall children and true branches of those Angelical Doctors Which vniust dealing hath not beene the least bane of the Christian world Secondly to inferre vpon their owne acknowledgement and discarding this booke that the testimonie euen of the most partiall that vented their follies in those first declining yeeres will steed them but very little for authorizing the Machabees from whence the foundation of their praier and oblation for the dead was first deriued As neere as I can remember I thus argued with my selfe If they grant that Saint Augustines penne doe feuer the Machabees from the diuine Canon then the matter will bee soone at an end and if they deny that booke to bee his then hovv vvill they excuse the infidelitie of their Church who hath in her time plaide manie such lewde prankes as this Or how vvill they answere Antiquitie vvhich distinguished these bookes eight hundred and nine yeeres before either a The book de Mirabilibus was written 627. vt P. 133 Luther or Suinglius vvere borne So that my reply is this If it bee a booke of no account not sauouring of Saint Augustines vvit learning and stile then are they culpable either of forging or maintenance or both If it bee not his why was it entertained vvhy is it continued in their own editions amongst his golden works If they print it vnder his name they may giue me leaue so to note it where they might be sure to finde it Yea but b P. 3. q. 45. art 3. ad 2. teste Tho. Aquinate it hath beene long since pronounced discarded By like it will not serue the Popes turne vvhy then welfare their honest Index expurgatorius that will tell manie tricks of the like cleanly conueiance In what an intricate age doe wee liue A man cannot safely read any their fathers but he must turne ouer Thomas Aquinas before hee can tell what workes are their owne and consequently may catch a Snake instead of an Eele ere hee be aware §. 10. THus you well see ingenuous Gentlemen how I haue quit my hands of the first falsehood my scope being not then to prooue that booke de mirabilibus to be Saint Augustines but first to euince them of forgerie and then to shevve vvhat their ovvne Antiquitie did manie hundred yeeres agoe thinke of those Apocriphall books Had I bin indeed perswaded that it had bin S. Augustines owne off-spring I should haue held it needles to cumber the breuity of a letter with more then one other proofe of the same Father But because I foresaw that by this baite I should bring the opposite partie to one of those ineuitable disaduantages formerly mentioned I therefore added tvvo seuerall testimonies vvhich he cannot disauow to confirme the same truth in the alleaging vvhereof hee cries out c P. 134. that I am a notorious falsefier For triall vvherof my pen prostrates it selfe to your censure The vvords by mee cited are these d Mr. T. H. P. 60. Machabaeorum Scriptura recepta est ab Ecclesia non inutiliter si sobriè legatur vel auditatur maxime propter istos Martyres vvhereupon my inference was this Ergo ob hanc causam in Canone morum non fidei censeri posset Which last clause I wonder how it should so passe my sight in the re-vievv For perusing my first draught I finde go vvritten short in another letter to distinguish my inference from his proofe It seemeth either my Manuaties haste or the e Dominum De um●n●strum Papam not his Phrase but ouer-sight in print P. 149. Printers misprision hath turned go into sed as if the same had beene continued vvhereas my English reddition was plaine And that consequently they are in the Canon of Manners c. vvhich Aduerbe their former error caused them vtterly to omit f Verstij Parasceue Such scapes oftentimes happen when the Author himselfe cannot attend the presse Now that you may perceiue there is no such Trophey in this casuall addition which no man of sence vvould willingly haue suffered when the Authors are obuious to euery eye you shall see I had S. Hieroms authority for that inference though I then did not quote him whose words are these g Jn praf lib. Salomonis Iudith Tobiae et Machabaeorum libros legit quidem Ecclesia sed eos inter Canonicas Scriptur as non recepit and hee explaines himselfe how this should be vnderstood Legat Ecclesia sayth hee ad aedificationem plebis non ad authoritatem dogmatum Ecclesiasticorum confirmandam reckon all these together you shall find them amount to no lesse summe then that the bookes of Machabees are in Canone morum non fidei censendi Might it haue pleased him to haue sifted Lyra Brito Rabanus and Caietan vvhom I there cited this matter would not haue beene such a beame in his eye How will he looke when Mr. Crashaw shal make him fly to his Printer for Sanctuarie in greater extremities then the mistaking of a word Will you giue me leaue to praesage vvhat he will say Admit this clause annexed be true in it selfe yet how can it bee collected out of these former words when as S. Augustine shewing that the Iewes doe not admit the booke of Machabees as they do the Law Prophets and Psalmes addeth Sed recepta est ab Ecclesia non inutiliter si sobriè legatur vel audiatur maximè propter istos Martyres Machabaeos How can you then conclude ergo it is not Canonicall Nay rather the consequence will be this ergo the Christian Church doth admit the booke of Machabees as Canonicall in that sense that the Iewes did refuse them to wit as the Lawe Prophets and Psalmes any of h P. 135. which may more hurt then profit if the same bee read in a drunken
this regard that the truth might be defended by persons whose pennes could not be corrupted with ambitious hope of (o) Because saith he they haue no other meanes to liue Pag. 31. spirituall promotions Further the report of the VVriter might happily induce the Ladies to vouchsafe the reading thereof whereas their Priests debars them the sight of our Ministers Bookes I was loath such rare creatures should be ouer gudgeoned by so foule Popinians by whom when their treasure is once wasted and their younger yeeres spent they shall be no more esteemed then so many Motheeaten Glosses which albeit they haue formerly stood them in stead they are not now ashamed to disclaime Other incitements I had then to write which he hath neyther authoritie to extort nor I reason to declare And because I then passed my word to answere any (p) To Mr. T. H. Pag. 6. Romefied Renegado though I haue small reason to defile my fingers with such a Pezantique Fugitiue who is ashamed of his q Les escrits iniurieux doiuent estre mesprises quand les auteurs sont in cogneus P. Mat. Fathers name yet least my silence might preiudice so warrantable a cause I haue clapt my hand vpon this Gnat which keepeth such an humming about my eares This I was not ignorant of before I tooke my penne in hand for this combat that I should gaine no more by coping with a namelesse Foe then the Lord Chiefe Iustice (r) Not long after the Statute made for burning of rogues in the eare Cataline got when his Studie was robbed by the paper which was there left with this Inscription If any aske who hath beene here Say it was (s) I. R. Nomen ●●en Iack Rogue late burnt in the eare §. 18. A Person not long since of eminent place esteemed not least Politicall after he had beene often as himselfe saith vexed with their (t) Quò tristis Erynnis quò fremitus vocat Virg. 2. Aeneid Erynnicall Libels which are ordinarily addressed to persons of highest rancke at last vouchsafed a briefe (u) An Answere to certaine scandalous Papers printed 1606. Apologeticall answere but with this protestation that hee neuer intended further Reply VVherefore as while he liued Nature cast this lot vpon me to be one of the nearest of his bloud so though hee be dead I will iumpe with his discretion in this that if eyther this Cat-sputtrer or any other Hagaren shall hereafter inter-lace my name in their Spiders Web (x) Periti bellatoris est non minus scire fugiendi artem quam pugnandi aut Dormitabo aut Ridebo VVere not the darknesse of my (y) 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 VVindowes a sufficient Supersedeas yet shall I by this meanes turne their Follies and friuolous Contumelies into the Trophies of my victorious Patience VVhereas (z) Prou. 26.4 By answering a foole according to his foolishnesse J should also be held like vnto him It is more then enough that I haue thus farre yeelded to (a) Pag. 52. bray him in this Morter with the Pestle of my Penne if the iuyce be vnpleasing you must attribute it to the venome of his cankered Complexion better things I could not extract from such an Aspe If you seriously obserue his lame and goutie Arguments his dangerous intention and slender prosecution you shall finde iust ground to say of his Treatise as (b) Populi Romani legationem nec pedes habere nec caput nec cor Cato merrily spake of the three Ambassadours who being named for Bithinia excused themselues one by a cut in his head another with a paine in his feete and the third with a gryping in his heart neither whole head good feete nor sound heart § 19. IN his Preface Dedicatorie hee brags that hee hath sent out his Booke as a Pinnace to fetch you into the Arke of the Catholike Church But I feare by that time Mr. Crashawe hath searched his bottome it will proue no better then a leaking Friggot His Sailes are too great for a Vessell of so small burthen and consequently most like to indanger the Passengers safetie If all those Bookes which hee complaines are not suffered to passe our (c) Pag. 89. Ports except almost inuisible be like this (d) Pag. 8 Dung-hill of his let it euer be registred in the Booke of fame amongst the due Commendations of that famous superlatiuely learned and Noble (e) Lo. Warden of the Cincque Ports Councellor to whose care this important charge is committed that hee hath herein testified his loue to Religion fidelitie to his Prince and loyaltie to the State As his wisedome deserues to be admired and his lenitie applauded so doth his sinceritie herein merit high renowne in the Gates of our Sion For should the infectious Manuels of these pestilent incrochers be passable in our Coast the contagion would be such that true Pietie could not long holde vp the head nor due Alleagiance be able to stand vpon her right feete The giddinesse which (f) Superstitio initium prabuit ortum impietati Superstition would breede and the Disobedience which Papall Authoritie would raise in the mindes of the vnlearned vvhose Capacities are not able to reach the future perill of Innouation would be so dangerous to a Christian and vvell gouerned State that it would aske the whole imployment of the most experienced Senators to roote out the weedes which those enuious impes had sowne All which will be preuented if at their first Arriuall they be cast (g) 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I shall not neede any further to weary my selfe or tyre you with the repelling of those inuectiues which this Tenebrio hath sharpened vpon the VVhetstone of his malice to wound my reputation This shall I hope suffice that I haue as neare as I could solidly answered things of waight dealing in points of lesser import as I thought their qualitie did require § 20. THE due regard which I euer had of your iudgements hauing my selfe beene sometimes an vnworthy member of the same (h) Middle Temple Societie hath made mee desirous not onely to send my Defence after his accusations but also to second it with a further manifestation of my Loue. May it then please you to take notice that howsoeuer hee seeke to insinuate himselfe by his charitable pretences into the bosome of your fauors yet hath hee not left his (i) Loquitur mendacia versipellis Pag. 12. Scorpions sting at home For notwithstanding hee fathers his Dedication vpon the (k) Pag. 22. carefull respect of your Saluation and Honour yet doth hee make no other reckoning of you then of so many (l) Pag. 81. Parlamentarians whose Religion is steared by the Helme of the State as if the Bookes of Statutes vvere the sole foundations of your Faith Neyther doth hee sticke to say that you make your (m) Pag. 59. Temples and Courts the places where silly Flies and fooles