Selected quad for the lemma: book_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
book_n	call_v	time_n	write_v	5,605	5	5.4143	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A93655	The opening of Master Prynnes new book, called A vindication: or, light breaking out from a cloud of differences, or late controversies. Wherein are inferences upon the Vindication, and antiqueres to the queres; and by that, the way a little cleared to a further discovery of truth in a church-order, by a conference or discourse. / By John Saltmarsh, preacher at Brasteed in Kent. Published according to order.	Saltmarsh, John, d. 1647.	1645 (1645)	Wing S493; Thomason E305_22; ESTC R200328	25,183	50

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whence_o we_o may_v infer_v that_o all_o sort_n of_o sinner_n never_o so_o profane_a and_o abominable_a yet_o upon_o any_o present_a affect_v counterfeit_v formal_a pretence_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n aught_o to_o partake_v in_o all_o thing_n of_o the_o most_o spiritual_a nature_n and_o fellowship_n and_o withal_o of_o the_o most_o spiritual_a and_o sincere_a profession_n contrary_a to_o these_o scripture_n 1_o pet._n 2._o 9_o 2_o cor._n 6._o 14_o 15_o 16_o 17_o 18._o isai._n 52._o 11._o gal._n 5._o 9_o vindication_n fol._n 37._o the_o brethren_n reason_n that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n there_o be_v a_o near_a application_n of_o the_o word_n and_o promise_n in_o particular_a of_o the_o right_a and_o interest_n in_o they_o more_o than_o in_o the_o word_n preach_v which_o the_o vindication_n say_v be_v just_a like_o the_o late_a archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n doctrine_n for_o bow_v at_o the_o altar_n as_o god_n great_a place_n of_o presence_n inference_n whence_o we_o may_v infer_v that_o the_o vindication_n do_v very_o uncharitable_o compare_v doctrine_n and_o principle_n viz._n his_o brethren_n with_o those_o of_o prelacy_n and_o his_o brethren_n with_o the_o gross_a of_o prelate_n and_o their_o principle_n of_o spiritual_a administration_n and_o communion_n with_o those_o of_o a_o most_o idolatrous_a and_o external_a nature_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o these_o scripture_n jam._n 4._o 12._o matth._n 7._o 1_o 3_o etc._n etc._n 1_o pet._n 3._o 8._o vindication_n fol._n 37._o that_o the_o minister_n administer_a the_o sacrament_n to_o any_o know_a impenitent_a sinner_n yet_o under_o the_o notion_n of_o penitent_a and_o repent_a sinner_n for_o that_o time_n discharge_v himself_o inference_n whence_o we_o may_v infer_v that_o a_o minister_n ought_v to_o comply_v with_o the_o hypocrisy_n pretence_n compliance_n form_n of_o any_o notorious_a scandalous_a or_o impenitent_a sinner_n at_o that_o time_n only_o in_o the_o apparition_n or_o resemblance_n of_o a_o saint_n and_o a_o wolf_n in_o sheep_n clothing_n contrary_a to_o these_o scripture_n 1_o tim._n 5._o 21_o 22._o matth._n 15._o 26._o 2_o tim._n 3._o 5._o 1_o thes._n 5._o 22._o 1_o cor._n 6._o 16._o vindication_n fol._n 37_o 38._o that_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n in_o the_o sacrament_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v break_v and_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n shed_v for_o you_o be_v not_o of_o any_o divine_a institution_n but_o human_a only_o though_o warrantable_o practise_v inference_n whence_o we_o may_v infer_v that_o he_o in_o affirm_v the_o institution_n to_o be_v only_o human_a and_o yet_o warrantable_a be_v not_o only_o a_o impeach_n of_o their_o worship_n of_o god_n in_o the_o high_a and_o most_o spiritual_a admiration_n of_o will-worship_n and_o human_a invention_n and_o want_v of_o conformity_n to_o the_o rule_n or_o word_n but_o even_o a_o flat_a contradiction_n in_o a_o scripture_n sense_n because_o he_o add_v