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A70289	A short answer to a book called The fanatick history published with the approbation of divers orthodox divines (so called) and dedicated to the king by Richard Blome (against the Quakers) : which being examined and tried, is found to be a packet of old lies, many of which was seven years since presented to the Little Parliament, and since to other parliaments and protectors, which by us was answered and confuted in the year 1653 many other lies and false reports is gathered up since by them, which herein is answered and disproved : and herein also is a short relation of the twelve changes of governments which have bin in this nation in those eight years, under all of which we have suffered and been persecuted for that truth, which we yet stand witnesses for, against all its opposers / Richard Hubberthorne ; James Nayler.	Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662.; Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.	1660 (1660)	Wing H3232; ESTC R6755	22,690	31

Christ hath given to some discerning of Spirits and the Spiritual man judgeth all things as saith the Scripture 1 Cor. 2.15 1 Cor. 12.10 and this Privilege the Saints had by the Spirit of Christ in them and the same we witness every one according to our measure as we have received the same Spirit 1 Cor. 11 12. And thou chargest one Nicholas Kate to have said 1. That Mariage was made by man 2. that Christians were worse than Beasts 3. that any woman was as free to him as his Wife 4. that his Wife was no Wife of his she was a Limb of the Devil 5. that he was holy and all things that he touched were holy 6. that when the fullness of time was come he should work Miracles To which we say the man we know not neither the truth of thy Accusations for they may be as false of him in these things as thou art found in many other things concerning others yet to the first of these we say that though true Mariage be of God and that which hath his blessing yet there be too many Mariages at this day made without God in the lust To the 2d we say that there be many who are called Christians that by nature are worse than Beasts and b● practise also though none deserve the name of Christians truly but such as are in Christ Jesus and being sanctified by his Spirit such are holie as saith the Scripture ●or the rest we leave it as that which is none of ours Thou further accuses us for saying that the Redeemer of man is not that Person the Son of man that dyed at Jerusalem but the light which is in everie particular man c. To which we say thy Accusation is false for we own no other Redeemer but that Person the Son of God that dyed at Jerusalem who is the light within us and the light of the world as he said of himself Iohn 8.12 though this be a mystery to thee and tha● which has been hid from Ages even Christ in us the hope of glory Col. 1. Again thou accusest us for saying The Scripture is not the way to find out the knowledge of Christ but a turning the mind within c. To which we say Christ is the way the light and the life and no man comes to the knowledge of him but by the Father Mat. 11.27 nor to the knowledge of the Father but by him though men without both may read the Letter as the Jews did whom thou tells on and their searching of the Scripture who for all that never came to the knowledge of Christ nor would they come to him that they might have life So ignorant is flesh and blood of his way and knowledge from the Letter and therefore we do say that without first turning to the light and Spirit of Christ there is no comming to him nor his knowledge Luke 10.22 And for the Blasphemies thou chargest against us as first that we say we are equal with God as holy just and good as God himself and this thou sayes was affirmed by George Fox and James Naylor before Witnesses To which J. N. sayes thy Charge is utterly false concerning me who in the presence of God can say that I never spoke these words secr●t nor open nor did it ever enter into my heart so to think of my self It is true George Fox was accused at Lancaster of saying that he was equal with God and to his Answer we refer you for satisfaction as it is in Sauls errand Page 10 11. Which answer is in these words Answ. That was not so spoken but that he that sanctifieth and they that are sanctified are of one and the Saints are all one in the Father and the Son of his Flesh and of his Bone this the Scripture doth witnesse and ye are the Sons of God and the Father and the Son are one and they that are joyned to the Lord are one Spirit 1 Cor. 6.17 they that are joyned to an Harlot a●e one fl●sh But as for saying he was as holy just and good as God himself this was never charged upon him And many other such false charges are laid upon us which we are not guilty of and which there is no proof for from our words or writings as that we should say that we are more perfect than Christ and that Christ is a sinner and that we should call the Apostles carnal men with other things of that nature which wee neither thought spoke nor writ and so these things being disowned and disproved by us is returned back again to be condemned with the accuser of the brethren from whence they did arise Again as concerning the dispute at Cambridge which thou mentions in the Fanatick History put forth by T. S. that is answered and his false accusations disproved by George Whitehead in a book called The Key of Knowledge not found in the Vniversity of Cambridge which is to be sold at the Black spread-Eagle in Martyns And also the false Relation of the disputation at Sandwich is answered and the truth of it clearly declared Again concerning thy relation in the 11. Chapter of the Phanatique History of the Petition of divers Ministers in Westmerland c. the substance of clamors therein expressed and the charges against G●o Fox and Ja. Nailor is fully answered to satisfaction of those that desire to understand the Truth in a book called Sauls Errand which is to be sold at the B●ack spread Eagle at the West end of Pauls And as for thy Narrative of publick proceedings against the Quakers in divers Counties and Cities and how they were imprisoned without the breach of any Law and for speaking the word of the Lord as they were moved and because they could not swear and because they were signs against pride these things doth all testifie for us how innocently we have suffered and how unchristianlike they have been that have so persecuted us for doing the will of God in love to their souls who have thus hated us And our being so hated persecuted and imprisoned by the Powers that have ruled in this Nation do plainly shew unto those of understanding that they have wanted the Spirit of Christ Love Meeknesse Mercyfulness and have shewed Cruelty without Mercy therefore the same measure which they have given unto others is justly come upon themselves and he that would provoke the Magistrates now to persecution as others that have gone before them they would bring them into the same Cause of Condemnation for which the Lord God might justly cut them off as he hath done others which would not be warned in their day untill their time was no more A short Relation of the twelve Changes of Government that hath been in England within these 8. years under all of which we have suffered Persecution SInce by the Lord we were called chosen and separated to be his People and had unto us committed the word of Reconciliation and

bad watchmen and idle shepheards who have lost all if suddain help come not from another hand now if some had come against you with carnal weapons then had you had some excuse in crying to the earthly powers but in ●hat nothing but spirit comes against spirit and yet hath lost the day this doth clearly manif●st the power of God you have not in you but have lost the kingdom of the most high and so are become unreasonable men who would have two weapons against one and another to do your work and yet are unwilling to forego your wages yea this advantage you have had divers years but have not prevailed therewith And whereas then sayst thy book is of great consequ●nce an●●o then presum●s to make King Charles the patron of it and th●n ask●s pardon for thy presumption when thou hast don● I say so thou hast n●ed the substance of thy bo●k being made up of false acc●●ations gathered up out of books formerly written against us which have been disproved by answers several times over and to these thou hast added som few accusations as false as the old and spied out the failings of som few who have mourned before God that ever they should give occasion to the enemy of God so to blaspheme And many things which was done and spoken by others who are not of us nor ever was and of this is thy book made up as any may see who reads it and our severall Answers to the charges therein many of them of severall years standing against these false accusations which have most of them been printed over and over and presented to the former powers that have risen and as oft Answered so there needed no more to be said then hath been were it not for the sakes of some who may yet be strangers to your way of dealing towards us under every power that hath been now discretion will say that to make another man the father of such a work to which he is a stranger but especially a King is presumption indeed rashness and folly and needs a pardon And whereas you now say that none but a Royall Authority can stifle It s true you have tryed Parliaments and Protectors as you called them and Parliaments again and to make them then work for you your Priests used these arguments to them to wit that in the late wars they had exposed lives liberties estates and relations with all personall advantages in maintaining the just proceedings of Parliament and from them you then claimed our stiflings as the price of your p●ayers purses hazards losses banishment and blood as may be read in thy Westmoreland petition against us which thou hast printed in Page 197. and 198. And was not this power that which you then called the common enemy in the same petition Page 200. Which you now cry too and would put him upon that work against us now as defender of your faith c. Ah! faithless generation you have been to God and man may you not shame with this work to print it and send it to King Charles and call him to defend it and patronize it how hath envy bereaved you of your reasonable senses shall he who defends this defend either faith or truth but this is that you may cover your selves with your shame and envy that both King and people and Parliaments may see what a generation you are that will run under any power to get your bloody ends but indeed true to none for if it was true that you was so faithful to that Parliament with your prayers purses and blood as there you plead then is your faith but new which now you would have defended but if not true then how great deceivers and how little to be trusted or defended in your crueldesignes The King that faithfully judges the poor his throne shall be established for ever But if a ruler hearken to lyes all his servants are wicked Prov. 29.12.14 And to thee who hath set forth this book of mischief I say with the Soripture Lay not wait O wicked man against the dwelling of the Righteous spoil not his resting place f●r a just man falleth seven times and riseth up again but the wicked falls into mischief Prov. 24.15 16. J. N. THe day is come that the Scripture is fullfilled which the Lord spake by his Prophet Isaiah●4 25 That he will make the Diviners mad and that they shall every one be ashamed of his Vision Zack 13.4 Micah 6.7 the which doth now evidently appear and their Folly is made manifest unto all that will see and behold it according to 2 Tim. 3.9 And is not this manifest Madnesse and Folly in them called Orthodox and Divines to present unto the King their Packet of lyes which have been seven years told over and so long since disproved and confuted as may be seen in a Book called Sauls Errand c. Printed in the year 1654. and in several other Books since It already hath been and i● now manifest unto all men of sober understandings that these men falsly called Orthodox and Divines have had no defence either to vindicate themselves or disprove the people called Quakers but this refuge of lyes which they first presented to the Parliament sitting in 52. likewise to all other Parliaments which have been since that time and to the two Protectors and now to this present King i● directed and you presumptuously charge him to be the Patron to it requiring him to defend those lyes which you falsly call the Faith But this we know according as it is written Prov. 29.12 19. that If a Ruler hearken to lies all his Servants are wicked but a wise King scattereth the wicked and bringeth the Wheel over them These pretended Divines are such as have bowed and crowched under every appearance of a power by Flatteries seem to cleave unto them that they might uphold maintain and satisfie their God which is their Bellies these were of them which said that Oliver Cromwell was the light of their Eyes and the breath of their Nostrils so that now with shame they might rather confesse that they are blind and dead from the light and life of God than to multiply lyes in their accustomed manner as formerly These also were of them that said Oliver Cromwell was Moses who had led them into a fight of the good Land and that Richard his Son was Joshua which should lead them into the Possession but we with many more do see that their Ho●e is false and their Faith also proved vai● and that they are not yet in the Land of Promise for there no lyars comes And those former Rulers hearkening to their lyes was decei●●d by them which was the cause of Gods Judgements and an utter destruction coming upon them which while they put into the Priests Mouths they cryed peace unto them calling them Moses Aaron and Joshua but when they ceased and could not put into their Mouths then cryed out

us and all the living whom he hath quicked with his appearance than the reading of the letter was or is to them who are without him being dead in their sinnes and reprobate in their understandings through the darkness of their hearts reading the Scriptures without the Spirit that gave them forth and this may answer thy accusation of George Whitehead and the question that was asked him And for thy seeking to make us as the Papists First in that the Pope to them is an Infallible Judge Secondly Written traditions equal to the written word We answer What is that to us who deny both the Pope his infallibility and his traditions they are none of them binding unto us look you to that who have the remainder of that Idolatry yet upon you in several things which might be instanced But blind man what a Comparison is this of thine Is it become an offence to say the Spirit of Christ is infallible and to confesse him come who leads into all truth Are we Papists in thy account for this You have too long made people follow you while you have been without that Spirit and little else have you to teach people but traditions who have not the Infallible Spirit to lead you in your worships and doctrine And so thy accusation I return upon thy own head And we can say no lesse of the Spirit of Truth and his word at this day than the holy Men of God have ever done in whom he hath appeared to wit that he is the same and his power the same and his word the same which liveth for ever and by which we now are armed and strengthned to withstand as great wickednesse and enlightened to see as great deceit in Teachers and people at this day we have cause to believe as ever appeared in the World from which we could not be delivered by our own wisdom reading or hearing of the letter till God sent the Spirit of Truth in the name of Jesus into us to enlighten our understanding in the Scriptures and against all spiritual wickednesse and deceitfull worships to quicken us with his power so to us he is the power and to him is the glory and the confession who liveth for ever and his dayes waxeth not old nor his voice feeble nor his arm short because many generations passe away before him and this is he that was before the letter who can work without the letter or with it and this is he whom men that know not have often opposed at his coming and have been broken for it though they professed the letter and this may answer thy accusation of George Fox or any other who have spoken any thing in the honor of his Appearance the power of his world or the danger of them that oppose it in this his day as well as formerly though we boast not of the fullnesse of our measure herein that is but thy accusation And for thy accusation that we deny the Personal body of Christ His coming in the Clouds to Judgement The visible Church And thy saying we are against Scriptures and against Ordinances against Sabbaths taking no notice of the moralitie of the fourth Commandement That we say the Doctrine of Original Corruption is a Soul-destroying God-blaspheming Doctrine That we are against Justification and Religiou● Education c. These are but thy false accusations not our Judgement nor our words but thou hast gathered the false accusations of the Priest● of New-Castle and other slanderous Spirits and this is the ground proof and foundation of thy Charge which hath been several times answered over-turned in the first rising of them as may be seen in the Answers to The perfect Pharisee and Sauls Errand and in a Book called The Pits mouth stopt by Fran. Howgill and several other Books to be seen in which your Folly is made manifest and what we own which is according to Scripture and what we deny which is your traditions and false worships never set up by God nor practised by his people to which Books we refer the Reader for full satisfaction herein And also in a book called Love to the Last by J. N. wherein these things are plainly spoken of And thou stumbles at the light as all the children of darkness must do And thou sayes we are strangely confused and know not well how to distinguish c. We say the confusion is in thy self and thy dark minde and not in us we stumble not who walk in light but all that walk in darknesse and hates the light must needs stumble as thou dost but to us is the light known and him that dwells in it to whom no mortal eye can approach blessed for ever and this is our all and the Nations of them that are saved must walk in it the power that we have in it we know the want we have had without it we know so we speak glorious things of the light and preach it before all its enemies without amazement for therein is the arm of God revealed mighty to save though many cannot receive our report but hates it because their deeds are evil as thou dost who calls it a natural Conscience and then saies we find Christ called the light and of him said that he lighteth every one that cometh into the world Is not here the Confusion and Jumble thou tells on in thy own dark old Bottle who cannot retain his Testimony but calls the light of Christ natural who thy self art the natural man that receives not the things of the spirit of God now the testimony that the Scriptures gives of him who is the light of the world whom we make our all as thou saiest And for that of perfection Thou charges us for saying that those that have received Christ and God are come to perfection and that all such as are in Christ are without sin To which we say yea he that comes to God and Christ comes to perfection and to him that is able to save from sin to the uttermost and he that abides in Christ sins not as saith the Scritures Heb. 7.25 1 John 3.6 and this perfection is in Christ and not of our selves and so is this freedom also and to him it is given and confessed and not to flesh and blood nor any carnal appearance But what seed art thou of to whom perfection and sanctification is so offensiv● which Christ and his Ministers commanded and preached And as to discerning Thou accuseth us for saying That the Saints by the Spirit that is in them can judge mens hearts and that such judging is Christs judging of them and that Christ shall judge no where but in the Saints and for this accusation thou quotes Naylors Answer to Pendarvis Wherein thou wrongs Naylor for he doth not say that Christ shall judge no where but in the Saints nor that People may judge mens hearts by every Spirit that is in them but this we say that the Spirit of