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A62928 The narrative and case of Simson Tonge, Gent. being a true account delivered upon oath before Mr. Justice Bridgeman, in the presence of Dr. Titus Oates, relating to Capt. Sam. Ely, Monsieur Choqueux, &c. and my self, who would have induced me to swear that my father and Dr. Oates, were the contrivers of the horrid Popish Plot, with other material passages omitted in the affidavit, together with some short reflections upon Mr. Le'estranges [sic] dialogue between Zekiel and Ephraim : humbly tendered to the consideration of the Honourable House of Commons. Tonge, Simson, b. 1656 or 7. 1681 (1681) Wing T1884A; ESTC R16796 26,700 16

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askt me if I had ever seen what his Discovery was I told him I had never read it then Ely replied if you never saw it it is probable Mr. Wrens discovery agrees with Bedloes and Praunces Narrative and that will do us no good so that without I were certain what it was he could say I would have nothing to do with him so that Design was quite broke off Ely being I suppose fearful of Mr. Wren and therefore Mr. Cooper nor my self never went to look after him any more In the Evening Mr. Choqueux came to see me and told me he knew a very ingenious and civil Person one Mr. L'estrange whom he would gladly have me acquainted with for he was lately made a Justice of the Peace and was very sorry he did not think of him before for being often abroad about his Occasions he could not keep me company nor assist me so much as he desired and said he was very much obliged to L'estrange for mentioning his Name in his Witty Narrative which he calls L'estranges Narrative of the Plot for clearing and vindicating him from that lying Story of the Firebal which he kept by him in his Chamber reported that they were for the fyring of the City about which he said there was such a Noise that several Files of Souldiers were sent from the Councel to guard all that long Passage in the Savoy from the Gate to his own Door and were ordered to suffer none to go in and out he then ask'd me if I knew L'estrange I reply'd I did not but have heard several mention his Name and told him if I were not mistaken he licenced Books He told me it was the very same Person and he would if I pleased introduce me into his Acquaintance I told him Mr. L'estrange had the repute about the Town of a witty Man but I never saw him in my life says Choqueux he was with me last Night but did not stay long but is excellent good Company and of whose Society I ever was extreme desirous I have invited him to morrow about seven or eight in the Evening to a Collation and then you may discourse him According as Choqueux had told me he brought L'estrange with him and there was none in the Room but my self before their coming in though he speaks of two young Men in his Dialogue but Lyes are accounted small Faults with him he can easily swallow them and he might be pardoned for such Crimes did he not err very grosly in very material Circumstances as soon as Mr. Choqueux came in he told L'estrange that my Name was Tonge then L'estrange said Mr. Tonge have I not seen you formerly at your Fathers Lodgings at Whitehal I told him that to my Remembrance I never saw him there but that I heard my Father mention his Name more than once upon the Account of a Book which he wrote called the Royal Martyr which he stopped and would not permit it to be Licenced and that if I were not very mistaken and therefore I would not be too confident in what I said my Father informed me that he had put out several things in that Book and said it was a very dangerous Piece and unless he would permit him to model it according to his own Capricious Humour he could not Licence it and thereupon my Father was much troubled at his Sawciness and sent for his Book again these Words in L'estranges Dialogue L'estrange makes Choqueux to speak for these are his own Words yes says Mr. Choqueux for refusing to Licence his Royal Martyr which he took very ill at your Hands of which Mr. Choqueux knew nothing of but I shall take no farther notice of L'estranges Abusive and Lying Dialogue for the whole Book is altogether extravagant and incoherent and therefore not worth my while to make more Quotations out of it therefore I shall proceed then Mr. Choqueux Recommended me to L'estrange as a Person very worthy of my Acquaintance and told him I had drawn up several Papers as Objections against the Plot and he did presume I should be very glad of his Assistance therein L'estrange told me he would to his Power Assist me in what he could and ask'd me where my Papers were for he would gladly peruse them for he was informed those Papers had very material Things in them against the Plot that he was a great admirer of all such things as he did not question he had demonstrated to the World by his Collections he had made concerning the Popish Plot where Doctor Oates was pleased to be silent and said that for his Part he found the whole Plot was replenished with nothing else but Improbabilities and ridiculous Absurdities and instanced in several general Transactions of the Plot to wit the unlikelihood of shooting his Majesty with silver Bullets in a screw'd Gun and L'estrange said he would prove it by Reason that if any one shoot off such a Gun charged with silver Bullets the silver Bullet would not give way but come out a Slug and another ridiculous Story he mentioned that if Doctor Oates went over to St. Omers and discovered the Popish Plot by being there conversant with the Priests and Jesuites he said it was very strange he could not tell when he came over for England where he first Landed and then Choqueux and L'estrange fell into other Discourse concerning the late Wars and L'estrange told him he did intend to write Prince Ruperts Life and askt Choqueux whether he could give him any Assistance he said he had some Memorials relating to the late Wars but they were at Paris so they both parted and going out with L'estrange I asked him when I should wait upon him and if he had any Writing I would transcribe any thing for him which he had to Print but he said he had no such Business but that any Evening he should be glad to see me and Mr. Choqueux at his House in Holborne and went his way from us The next Day after Mr. Choqueux went to L'estrange his House and told me he was newly gone out but he said to morrow in the Evening I should go along with him to L'estrange and Crawly coming to the Savoy before we were gon went along with us whom I suppose L'estrange had no Acquaintance with but Crawly went thinking he might have something to say to him in relation to his Papers so soon as we came into the Room where L'estrange was he desired Mr. Choqueux and Crawly to withdraw for he said it look'd too much like a Consultation who went out and expected my coming out in the Street then being together he asked me whether I had a Coppy of that Information which was delivered to the King I told him I had not only some loose Papers relating to it but I could recite several material Passages of it then L'estrange writ them down and askt me whether I had no more to say I told him I had not and said when he