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A77605 Cases considered and resolved. Wherein all the tender godly conscientious ministers in England (whether for a Congregationall, or a Presbyteriall way) are concerned. Or pills to purge malignants. And all prophane, ignorant, and scandalous persons. (But more particularly calculated for the meridian of Margarets Fishstreet-hill) from those grosse conceits that they have of their childrens right to baptisme; and of their owne right to the Supper of the Lord, &c. Also good councell to bad men. Or friendly advise (in severall particulars) to unfriendly neighbours. By Thomas Brooks, a willing servant unto God, and the faith of his people, in the glorious Gospel of Christ, at Margarets Fishstreet-hill. Brooks, Thomas, 1608-1680. 1653 (1653) Wing B4938; Thomason E684_28; ESTC R207067 29,466 37

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si hominibus loquentia de Deo verba non placeant quibus ipse forsitan Deus non placet Salv. 'T were very strange saith he If I should please a world of men when God himself doth not give every man content Luther writing to his friend hath this passage My greatest fear is the praises of men but my joy is in their reproaches and evill speeches 'T is certain that the praises of men to many are the Basilisks that kill the poyson that destroyes their immortal souls 2. I say If the understandings of ignorant malignant prophane and scandalous persons should be the rule or standard by which the abilities or qualifications of such Ministers that are Ministers not of the letter but of the spirit as the Apostle speaks should be measured and tried 2 Cor. 3.6 doubtlesse he that is no Witch may easily conclude that there are no Ministers in England Jer. 5.30 31. qualified to their understandings but such as are malignant ignorant prophane and scandalous as themselves and such without doubt would be the onely qualified men to their understandings as might be confirmed by a cloud of witnesses 3. Chriysostom studied not aures titillare but corda pungere to tickle the ears of his hearers but to prick and ravish their hearts Prov. 11.30 Though I am not qualified as to their understandings yet through grace I am qualified as to the understandings of those that are eminent both for piety and parts and who have made tryal of what is in me and what the Lord hath done for me And though I am not so qualified as to gratifie your lusts yet t is joy and honour enough to me that the Lord hath so qualified me with gifts and grace as to make me instrumental to bring in souls to Christ and to build up souls in Christ In the day of account it will be made manifest that they have been the best the wisest and ablest Preachers who have brought most souls to Christ and provok't most souls to walk with Christ 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 velokeakh which signifies by art and industry to catch souls as Fowlers do to take birds and cleave to Christ and lift up Christ in this world Through grace I can say with blessed Cooper my witnesse is in heaven that I have no such joy and pleasure as in doing the work of Christ and in being serviceable to the honour of Christ the interest of Christ and the people of Christ 4. If this plea of prophane ignorant malignant and scandalous persons should be admitted as authentick doubtlesse all the godly They that are wise cannot but observe much of this spirit upon all the prophane ignorant and malignant persons in the Nation tender conscientious Ministers in the Nation that can't do as they would have them would quickly be ejected All the prophane ignorant malignant scandalous persons in the Nation would soon cry out as one man Our Ministers are not so qualified to our understandings as to remain any longer with us Ergo. 5. 'T is to be remembred that when the Petitioners were several times prest by the Committee to shew wherein I was not qualified for the work of the Ministry The Petitioners seemed to be like those in Matth. 22.46 that were non plust by the question Christ put to them c. My first Sermon preached before the Parliament was on the 26. Decmb 1648. My second was preached on the 8. of October 1650. for that great victory the Lord of Hosts gave our Army over the Scots Army in a barttel at Dunbar Sept. 3. 1650. and both are printed by their Order Besides my book called Precious Renedies against Satans devices which came forth this year which some of them have seen they all seemed to be dumb and at very great losse as not knowing what to answer but at last their malignant Champion after much pumping gave this answer to the Committee That I was not so qualified to their understandings as to remain any longer among them because I would not give them the Sacraments nor bury their dead which put some rather upon smilings then upon answering But at last a worthy Member of that Committee made this answer That they had both heard me and seen me in Print and so were best able to make a judgement of my abilities and fitnesse for the work of the Ministry c. For a close of this branch of the Petition I shall onely say this being compelled thereunto by some that I do believe that I have spent more money at the University and in helps to Learning then several of these Petitioners are worth though haply I have not been so good a proficicient as those that have spent lesse I am a lover of the Tongues and do by daily experience finde that knowledg in the Original tongues is no small help for the understanding of Scripture c. Yet am I not kin to them that advance and lift up acquired gifts above the sweet sanctifying gifts and graces of the Spirit of Christ in the souls of his Saints as many have and do to this day But certainly Christ will more and mote cloud those that labour to cloud the shinings forth of his Spirit in the souls of his servants Nor yet am I kin to Licinius who held Learning to be the Common wealths Ratsbane Neither am I kin to those that labour might and main the overthrow of Learning in order to their lifting up Jack Straw 'T is sad when men are not so ingenious as to favour that in others which they can't finde in themselves Further the Petitioners say that I refuse to Baptize their children c. Answ 1. This give me leave to premise by the way that t is my judgement Gen. 17. Act. 2.38 39. 1 Cor. 7.14 c. upon many grounds moving me to it that Baptism is to be administred to the children of believing Parents who walk in the order of the Gospel and my practise herein doth answer to my judgement as is well known to many 2. But in the second place I confesse I have refused and shall refuse to Baptize the children of prophane ignorant malignant and scandalous persons and that upon these following grounds 1. Non parentum aut majorum authoritas sed Dei docentis imperium Jerom The command of God must outweigh all authority and example of men Because I cannot finde any warrant in my commission from Christ so to do I do seriously professe that I have made a diligent search and strict inquiry into that commission that I have received from the Lord for the dispencing of holy things and I cannot finde any thing in my commission that will bear me out in the Baptizing the children of those Parents that are prophane ignorant malignant scandalous c. and therefore I cannot do it lest I should hear Christ and conscience sounding that sad word in my ears Who hath required this at your hand Isai 1.12 2.