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A09105 A manifestation of the great folly and bad spirit of certayne in England calling themselues secular priestes VVho set forth dayly most infamous and contumelious libels against worthy men of their owne religion, and diuers of them their lawful superiors, of which libels sundry are heer examined and refuted. By priestes lyuing in obedience. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1602 (1602) STC 19411; ESTC S119803 191,126 270

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