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A75507 An apologie for the six book-sellers, subscribers of the second Beacon fired. Or, A vindication of them from the foul and unjust aspersions cast upon them by M. John Goodwin in a late pamphlet intituled A fresh discovery of the high Presbyterian spirit. Together with brief observations upon some remarkable passages in the said book. / By one that subscribes not his name, because he confesseth himself to be nullius nominis. Nullius Nominus. 1655 (1655) Wing A3557; Thomason E826_8; ESTC R10427 8,136 12

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nor in the least to mitigate his censure of this passage So that all these things considered M. Goodwin was justly charged with denying not only such unchangeableness but Gods unchangeableness i. e. in that sense in which the Orthodox asserted it But I have not yet done I must needs have a little conference with Mr. Goodwin about some passages in his Book And first as for that tartness which you complain of in the language of the letter which the Book-sellers sent you they do ingenuously acknowledge their errour in it and as I have heard from them are ready to retract it setting you a copy what you ought to do in the like case M. Goodwins pen it is thought hath been as much dipt in gall as another mans Your scurrilous language towards the learned and reverend M. Walker and in particular your bitter recipe which you prescribe for him as for one that is not cōpos sui Your elegant variety of taunts reproaches most contumelious expressions towards M. Jenkins which for the benefit of the Reader he hath collected together in his Blind Guide cum multis aliis may make M. Goodwins cheeks change colour as oft as he chargeth the Book-sellers or any others with scurrilous and unseemly language For what you say in favour of all cursed and damnable doctrins I mean for the toleration and against the suppression of them I shall hardly think that M. Goodwin is a man of so incompetent judgment that his own conscience is satisfied with what he hath said which I am the rather induced to believe because I remember M. Goodwins 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 so it was without any 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 wherein he hath set his wits and the Scripture too upon the rack to maintain that Monster of universal liberty of conscience as it is commonly though unduely called This Book M. Edwards did answer satisfyingly and convincingly in the judgement of any impartial man A solid reply whereunto the world did and doth expect ere ever M. Goodwin appeared upon the stage again in that cause or else by silence a confession which I am confident is the truth and so I believe are thousands besides me that he cannot answer it For this I have observed to be one of his 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to answer those Books which are more sinewous and unanswerable no otherwise then by contempt and silence And so it seems M. Goodwin resolves to answer those two acute and learned Doctours Dr. Owen and Dr. Kendall whose labours have had the high approbation of divers learned men no whit inferiour to M. Goodwin nor his congregation neither though it is true all mens tastes are not of the same temper non est disputandum de gustibus But Sir give me leave to tell you that if you resolve to answer those two champions in that manner you will give many more cause to think what some already do and what Sir Francis Nethersole called you at least that you are not many miles distant from his 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 self-condemned And now I have mentioned that ingenious Knight I cannot but let the world know what kind of answer they may expect from Mr. Goodwin to Dr. Kendal c. by representing one of your answers to his charge by which you may see that Mr. Goodwin abhorres an ingenuous tractation as much as he doth an high Presbyterian Yet let not M. Goodwin twit me in the teeth with Carolizing Scotizing as he doth M. Jenkins telling him also of his bands c. most disingenuously and barbarously but most of all unbecoming him who professeth himself to be a man of most exquisite constitution and full of humility ingenuity c. for I mention this only to shew with what trash M. Goodwin can at least makes many believe he doth satisfie himself and his credulous congregation Sir Francis accused M. Goodwin of inconsistency in his judgement that in his Anti-Cavalierism pa. 7. he hath these expressions As for offering violence to the Kings person c. we leave the proof of that to the Jesuites we conceive it to be the just Prerogative of the persons of Kings IN WHAT CASE SOEVER to be secure from the violence of men and their lives to be as consecrated Corn meet to be reaped and gathered only by the hand of God himself This passage Sir Francis opposeth to M. Goodwins justification of that design of putting the King to the death To this Mr. Goodwin replies not by an ingenuous acknowledgement of his weakness c. which would better have becomed him but by this profound answer as you have it in his Pamphlet called The unrighteous Judge p. 9 10. That he meant it only of violence offered from private men not from Magistrates and that what Magistrates do in a way of Justice God himself may be said to do Thus M. Goodwins just Prerogative of Kings which no man that hath not his senses sodden into Trapezuntius his temper to use Mr. Goodwins own phrase doubts but he meant of something 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 proper to them and I am perswaded his conscience tells him so is levelled to that universal priviledge which even the vilest Rogue enjoyes i. e. that it is unlawful for their lives to be taken away by any other then the hand of the Magistrate Which is so manifest an 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or self-contradiction that he that runs may read it By this judge of this great Doctours 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I will not say 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 One or two passages more I cannot but observe 1. His 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that I say not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 nor 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 p. 35. He brings in the testimony of one whom he calls as learned grave and judicious as any English born at this day on the behalf of his Book about the Authority of the Scripture That it was as good a Book as any was written since the Apostles days This testimony saith M. Goodwin I confess if you do not many others do may be as much too wide on the right hand as your malignant imputation is on the left Note how cautelously he speaks it he dare not say it is too wide but it may be it is not impossible I confess I thought Mr. Goodwin would have vailed the Bonnet to Mornay Grotius or at least to his Camero upon that subject though they have not such a 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 nor such a mixture of errours there that I remember as Mr. Goodwin hath But it seems as he speaks of Dr. Owen in relation to Dr. Kendal p. 43. he reserved his high thoughts for his own writings 2. I Observe his 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 when he is charged with this absurd assertion That knowledge c. is not attributed to God any otherwise then eyes It is not saith he for want of ignorance that Dr. Kendall Mr. Pool and others contend against me for such a saying He cites a saying of Austins We speak few things properly of God Sed quid hoc 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 We acknowledge this to be a great truth but this knowledge is one of those few And for what Mr. Goodwin addes It argues extream oscitancy for a man to think that they speak more honourably of God who ascribe unto him knwoledg properly as it is found in men or other creatures then they who attribute the same unto him by way of eminency and transcendency of perfection free from all the deficiency in men c. But what a piece of oscitancy what 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is this that Master Goodwin should not understand or else contrary to his understanding relate our opinion utrum horum mavis accipe Did ever the Orthodox say that knowledge is in God as in men c. Do they not free it from all imperfections as much Yea more I am sure then Master Goodwin witnesse his imputing to God ignorance of future contingences more Sociniano But Master Goodwin would do well to rub up his Philosophical notions and to consider that knowledge is not the lesse properly knowledge because it is freed from imperfections but rather more properly Shall any man absurdly say God is not properly holy just wise merciful because these are not in God as they are in the creature 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I shall trouble Master Goodwin no farther only thus If he answer me as he hath answered Sir F●ancis Nethersole or Master Jenkins c. I shall not trouble either him or the world with any Reply but that which is his constant refuge in arduous cases I mean that of silence This only being added for parting if Mr. Goodwin doth not moderate the heat of his carriage and expression let him take heed lest some deal by him as Lubbertus did by Vorstius one of his Masters who wrote a Book and intituled it Non aginta novem errores c. The ninety nine errours of Conradus Vorstius for some conceive Master Goodwins works will afford a Counter-part FINIS