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A84134	A brief discovery of the blasphemous doctrine of familisme, first conceived and brought forth into the world by one Henry Nicolas of the Low Countries of Germany about an hundred years agoe; and now very boldly taught by one Mr. Randall, and sundry others in and about the citie of London. Whom multitudes of people follow, and which doctrine many embrace. The summe or briefe whereof is on the other side of the leafe set downe.	Etherington, John, fl. 1641-1645.	1645 (1645)	Wing E3382; Thomason E277_11; ESTC R200007	13,969	16

Thess 4. and have regard unto the sound of the last Trumpet and consider the forefrunt of the true Tabernacle of God wherein the beginning of the true God service and of the upright Christian life becometh erected c. So farre are H. N. his own words with his quotations in the Margine And that he makes the anointing or sanctification of the holy Ghost which he calleth the perfection holinesse and the Sabbath to be the Christ and the contrary anointing the nature of sinne and child of the Devill as he calls it to be the Antichrist which the Scripture speaketh of it is manifest by his owne words Chap. 18. and sundry other places of the book of his Evangely wherein also many other matters of the like nature all grounded on the forementioned principles are spoken by him too many for me here to relate Compare now the Sermons of Mr. Randall and those Doctrines of H. N. together and you shall see how Mr. Randall like a right disciple of H. N. followeth him therein And here you may see by the writings of H. N. before rehearsed in what an allegoricall and mysticall sense he expoundeth all those Scriptures which he coats in the margent making the coming of Christ in his glory and his sitting in the Throne of his glory spoken of Matth. 24.30 and 25.31 the day of judgement and sounding of the last trumpet spoken of also by Paul 1 Cor. 15. 1 Thes 4. the resurrection from the dead and every thing else in the same places mentioned the perfection the incorruption the salvation and all whatsoever the Scriptures have spoken concerning the everlasting kingdome and glory of Christ and his Saints now in this present day of H.N. and his family of love and in them and by them to become all fulfilled And now This being their very doctrine as their own words do plainly and often in their doubling kind of speaking declare it necessarily followeth that they who are fully possest with the belief thereof neither have nor can have the least hope or expectation of any other coming of Christ hereafter of a perfection of a resurrection of the body of an eternall life salvation glory rest peace paradise city kingdome to come And the case being so that their hope and happinesse is only here in this their new last day as they speak then it is best for them to rejoyce and be glad while their day lasteth and deck themselves here with Rose buds before they be withered to take their fill of pleasure as in youth to eat and drink for to morrow they shall die and all will be past And then what are all their pretended spirituall joyes but meere fancies A man that imbraceth all the pleasures that this world can afford and his carnall appetite shall desire is in as happy a case as they for if the body being dead shall rise and live no more nor the spirit after that have any sense of his being or felicity more then it had before the body was or can now remember or think of that it ever had which is also a point or consequence of their doctrine then Augustus Cesar that Pagan Emperor who lived and raigned so long in wealth and glory in pompe and pleasure was a happier man far then any of them And so all the great and glorious boastings of H.N. the high stile and manifold rare tiles he ascribeth to himself will prove to be no better then blasphemies against God and against Christ and against the Holy Ghost and all his sweet intising words of his Evangely and his pleasing Allegories though carrying never so fair a shew of godlinesse to be nothing else but meere inchantments to delude the minds and feed the fancies of people And what are all his threatnings and sentences of judegment and condemnation he pronounceth against those that reject his doctrine but a devillish device to feare the people himself being filled with the spirit of pride and high presumption Besides if there be no other resurrection nor salvation then what is now presently as H. N. saith then what condemnation is there other then what is also now presently and so when the body dieth condemnation endeth Therefore let all true faithfull Christians whose hope is not here in this life only but hereafter chiefly conclude against this H. N. otherwise Henry Nicolas that he was and is a lyer an Antichrist a blasphemer and so let him go And let Mr. Randall and all his hearers and followers take heed and before-warn'd in time and not begin to frame arguments in their minds and say It is not M. Randall and we only that teach and entertain this doctrine of H. N. there have been and are great Doctors of Divinity so called yea and some great Peers and Persons of quality and estate in this land as elsewhere that have taught and entertained the same with great affection and high applause I say let them not reason thus for although this be true as I my self do partly know having had speech with some of them forty yeeres ago and sundry times since and with one great person severall times who plainly professed the doctrine of H. N. and stood to maintain by argument that every creature is God and that there was not a resurrection of the body after the common death therof to be expected whereupon I hearing him and speaking with him said My Lord out of all doubt the whole doctrine of H.N. is a very blasphemous deceit and requested him to beware of it and did what I could to inform him in the truth which I knew and said H. N. doth admit and will have it that men may and shall have wives and children in his resurrection in a successive manner continually but Christ saith that they which shall be counted worthy of that world to come and of the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage to which hee suddenly replyed saying no they shall not marry nor be given in marriage they shall take them wives and I presently answered but Christ saith they shall be as the Angels in heaven whereunto he replyed not Now what of all this and that there have been Doctors aed others that have taught the doctrine of H. N. as one D. Everet one Shaw and at this present one D. Gill publikely in the midst of this city of London and one that went from hence to Redding D. Pordage who was in expectation of if he he hath not obtained the chief publike place there all whom I have both heard and spoken with and know that they have usually taught the same doctrine although this be so I say and that some of my own speciall acquaintance neer forty yeeres agoe fell unto the same yet is not all this a sufficient argument to perswade mee or any Christian else to entertain or believe the doctrine Nay there is as great reason in that kinde for the Turks and for Christians also to believe their

Therefore he doth so delude with that deceit 2. Whosoever shall teach and perswade that such as are baptized with the baptisme of the holy Ghost have from thenceforth nothing to doe with the Law nor with the baptisme of repentance which John preached but away with the Law and away with John Baptist from such a one doth herein pervert the straight way of the Lord not onely in denying the baptized with the baptisme of the holy Ghost the use of the Law of God to delight therein and serve the same in his minde as Paul saith Rom. 7. but also in rejecting the estate of a repentant broken contrite heart whereof the Prophet Esay speaketh saying Cast ye up cast ye up prepare the way take up the stumbling-block out of the way of my people For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity whose name is Holy I dwell in the high and holy place with him also that is of a contrite and humble Spirit to revive the spirit of the humble and to revive the hearts of the contrite ones Esay 57.14.15 The repentant contrite heart being it which the holy Ghost purgeth and cleanseth comforteth and reviveth daily and the baptisme of repentance and the baptisme of the holy Ghost being the parts of the new birth from above wherein he that is born anew walketh and goeth on daily weeping and yet rejoycing dying and yet living sowing in teares his pretious seed in an assured hope one day to reap in joy and come to a Citie and Kingdome promised But Mr. Randall doth so teach and perswade as is aforesaid Therefore he therein perverteth the straight way of the Lord as doth H. N. the Arch-Familist 3. Whosoever shall teach and perswade that the things spoken of by Paul 1 Cor. 51 52 53 54 55 56 57. are to be attained and fulfilled now in this present time in those that are baptized with the ho-Ghost doe thereby make Christ to be already come the second time to such without sin unto salvation according to Heb. 9.28 Death to be swallowed up in victory as 1 Cor. 15.54 according to Hosea 13.14 The sting of death which is sin to be quite taken away And all the great and eternall promises to bee already fulfilled in them and so destroy the hope of the Saints as touching the personall comming of Christ in his glory to judge the quick and the dead and of the resurrection of the bodies of the Saints and of the kingdome glory and life everlasting of body and loule hereafter to come which the Scriptures so much speak of and all the Saints assuredly look for But Mr. Randall as well as H. N. the oldest Familist doth so teach and perswade Therefore he as well as H. N. doth hereby destroy as much as in him lieth the hope of the Saints And so the whole charge is fully proved 4. Whosoever shall teach and affirme that every creature in the first estate of creation was God because they were made by the word of God doth therein teach and affirme a very erroneous and blasphemous thing But Mr. Randall doth so teach and affirme Therefore c. And although as I confesse he said mistake me not I doe not say the creature is the Creator neither doe I say Man is God that were blasphemy for man is vanity yea a lie yet did not Mr. Randall hereby contradict his first doctrine for if I should ask him and say Did God by his word make vanity or a lie No doubt he would answer and say No. What is that man then which hee calls a lie and vanity Doubtlesse he means man in his fall and so the creature though he denieth it to be the Creator yet he denieth it not to be God no more then he denieth the Word or Sonne of God to be God because he is not nor can be the Father This Mr. Randall counts not blasphemy but I affirme it is Neither because the Father the Word and the holy Ghost is one God are the Saints which are baptized with the holy Ghost therefore God also Neither because they have the holy Ghost dwelling in them doe they therefore know all things as God knoweth all things as Mr. Randall taught and affirmed according as H. N. hath done 5. Whosoever shall presume to turn the holy Writings and saying of Moses and the Prophets of Christ and his Apostles and the proper names persons and things mentioned and contained therein into allegories and give them out to be the mystery and spirituall meaning of the same The holy Ghost in the writings or sayings of Moses and the Prophets of Christ and his Apostles having not so done nor left any rule or direction for it doth therein presume above that which is written and so addeth to and taketh from the sayings writings and prophesies of the holy Scriptures and deceiveth the people themselves also being deceived But Mr. Randall as well as H. N. hath so done as by the Sermons of the one and the printed books of the other compared together may appear Therefore And so Sir not to mention every thing delivered by you against which just exception may be taken wee desire you to consider of these things and to give us your answer in writing And beleeve us we have not the least thought of raising persecution against you as you perhaps or some other may think nor of wronging you any kind of way onely our desire and end is that the truth may bee known unto us all and that we should not delude nor be deluded And so I rest your Christian friend John Etherington These were given to Mr. Randoll by the said Mr. Cullumbeam but hee returneth no answer nor will as some that are of his hearers and inward with him say as from himselfe And now to the end all men may see that Mr. Randall is not wronged in the forementioned charge I will here set down the own words of H.N. with his quotations as they stand printed in his book intituled The joyfull Message of the Kingdome As first in his Preface where he hath these words COnsider on the time O all yee people which love the truth of Jesu Christ Presently in this day of the love and of the appearing of the comming of our Lord Iesu Christ in the resurrection of the dead wherein the Law Esay 65. 1 Cor. 15. the Prophets and all what is written of Christ becommeth fulfilled And in Chap. 1. he hath these words H.N. Through the grace and mercy of God and through the holy Spirit of the love of Iesu Christ raised up by the highest God from the death Iohn 6. Act. 17. Eph. 2. Rom. 8. Ephes 4. Ioh. 14. Apoc. 21. Iohn 1. 1 Iohn 1. Ier. 33. 1 Cor. 13. Apoc. 14. Esay according to the providence of God and his promises anointed with the holy Ghost in the old age of the holy understanding of Iesu Christ Godded with God in the Spirit of his love made heire