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A44841 The Quakers house built upon the rock Christ Wherein neither their doctrines, principles, nor practices can be confounded, not disproved; being neither damnable, nor pernitious. As Samuel Hammond hath falsly affirmed in his book called, The Quakers house built upon the sand: or, a discovery of the damnablenes of their pernitious doctrins, in his answer to G.W. which to prove, he lays down seven grounds of delusion, and five arguments of damnable doctrine. But in this answer his seven grounds is proved false in themselves, ...; and his five arguments is proved to be his own false positions, ... as first, he lays down false positions, and then proves them false; and then boasts, as if he had proved our doctrines or principles false: the truth of which is herein clearly made manifest, and wherein he falsly accuseth us, he is justly guilty himselfe. Also the ten fundamentall principles or doctrines of the hireling priest-hood, ... By a servant to the Church of Christ, ... Richard Hubberthorne. ... Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662. 1659 (1659) Wing H3227A; ESTC R221606 34,515 47

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am thy part and thine Inheri●ance among the Children of Israel Ver. 21. And behold I have g●ven of Levy all the tenth in Israel for an Inheritance for their service which they serve even the service of the Tabernacle of the Congregation And hast thou not read Deut. 10. 9. Wherefore Levy hath no part nor Inheritance among their brethren the Lord is his Inheritance as the Lord God promised him c. And hast thou not read Deut. 18. 1. 2. The Priests the Levites and all the Tribe of Leui shall have no p●rt nor Inheritance with Israel they shall eat the Offerings of the Lord made by fire and his Inheritance Therefore shall they have no Inheritance among their Brethren the Lord is their Inheritance as the Lord hath said c. And hast thou not read Joshua 13. 14. Onely unto the Tribe of Levy he gave none Inheritance the sacrifice of the Lord God of Israel made by fire was their Inheritance as the Lord hath said And hast thou not read Ezek. 44 28. I am their Inheritance saith the Lord and ye shall give them no possession in Israel I am their possession Now this was their Inheritance and Possession and that which they had for their service was the Tythe and out of that all the Widowes Strangers and Fatherlesse was to come to the Priests Gate and be satisfied that there should not be a begger in Israel But though the Priests in England have the Tythes yet there are Widowes Strangers and Fatherlesse that wants and many beggers in England and by their covetousnesse is many oppressed and their goods taken from them whereby they are brought to suffer want but the Lord hath opened the bowels of compassion in some to pitty and supply those which the Priests ●er their cov●tous ends make merchandise of Now this I have declared that all such may see themselves if so be that God at any time will give them repentance that they may be saved Another snare hath Sam Hammond runne himselfe into by perverting the Apostles words when he bids them Prove all things and hold fast that which is good these words Sam. Hammond limits to this that they must try what is according to the mind of Christ and hold that Ans. That is not all things but one thing but they were to try all things what was according to the mind of Christ and what was not and try the spirits whether they be of God and when they had tryed what was according to the mind of Christ and what was not and what spirit was of God and what was not then they were to hold fast that which was good But S. H saith must they try sinne and must they goe heare the Papists to try their Doctrine Ans. Thou art very blind and dark in thy understanding Is there no trying of sinne but by entering into the experimentall practice of it Ans. Yes The Lord ha●h given us of his spirit by which we are able to try your Ministery your Wages your Covetousnesse and your cruelty and slandering of the Innocent and yet not enter into any of your practises and as we try you so we doe the Papists likewise not from the Orthodox writers as thou calls them but by the spirit of the living God And Paul did not bid the Thessalonians goe to some Orthodox Writers to try either Spirit or Doctrines by their Books But thy end in speaking these words is That people should not heare us declare the Truth lest they should be converted to God and brought off all false wayes and worships which they have long been kept under by thy perverting of the Scripture to thy own end And if they must goe to thy Books as Orthodox to try us by there they may find thee speaking evill of us without a cause and laying open thy own nakednesse and ignorance of the things of God But if people once come to know the measure of Gods spirit and with that try and prove they will see tha● they have been alwayes learning but was never able to know the truth from any of your Teachings Againe thou goes to excuse the Magistrates of New-castle in their cruelty and hayling of the peaceable people of the Lord out of d●res and saith that it is their Zeale and Glory but Persecution was ever blind and that Zeale which sto●d in it And further thou saith that they know no Law that tolerates their Meetings Answer What! wilt thou shame the Magistrates of New-castle before all people What! ar● they ignorant of the Law of the Nation and of the Instru 〈…〉 of Goverment and by this account thou would ren●er ●hem uncapable of doing justice in New-castle or of executing their place of trust wherein they are put to doe justice and performe the righteousnesse of the Law But when they truely come to see thee and thy words they will have no great incouragement to give thee so great Wages for upbraiding them with their ignorance of the Laws of the Nation Pr. Againe thou empties the Venome of thy heart by false accusing not onely the living but the dead in saying that William Cotesworth of Shields hyred a House in New-castle but before that he could enjoy it the Lord stroke him with madnesse Ans. This is false for he did enjoy the House he hyred and others with him did meet peaceably in it and enjoy the Lords presence and teaching before the Lords stroke as thou calls it but doe not thou accuse the Lords stroke neither doe thou charge God with any indignation against him For when the Lord makes inquisition for the blood of his Saints thou wilt not be cleare in this in saying the Lord did witnesse against him or us in that particular Pr. Againe thou mentions a Shoomaker in New castle which thou saith was one of us and came and rayled against thee and was presently struke mad Ans. Here thou would make people beleeve wonders was he not mad before he rayled against thee And that Shoomaker was never any of us nor owned of us ever to be in the truth and he was mad and distracted before ever be saw us or we him But he that is in the gall of bitternesse must vent it out But the Lord doth keep us clear from the blood of all men and that truth which we are witnesses of shall stand for ever over all our Accusers who are filling up the measure of their iniquities by speaking all manner of evill against us as Christ said they should doe But in this we rejoyce When men speake all manner of evill against us falsly for his name sake for great is our reward in Heaven for even so persecuted they the prophets that went before us and this is that reproach which for his sake we must beare as he hath left us an example for the servant is not greater then his Lord Pr. The last thing in this Book is a story which thou tells to thy own shame Of thy hyring a
That a Star man enlighten in the night but its the Sunn that makes day Ans. A Starre is not pure darknesse for there is some light and according to the measure of its brightnesse t is pure light so thou must have another proofe then that and 〈◊〉 is more properly called darkenesse when there is not so much as the light of a Starre Another proofe is thou sayst Godly Magistrates have two-lights and so two eyes that is the light of Conscience which is as thou saith pure darkenesse and the light of Faith which I say is pure light Ans. These two Eyes are one contrary to the other For light hath no fellowship with darknesse And how can any Magistrate in this state manage justice one of his Eyes the evill eye must be put out if ever he manage justice well for the one Eye will offend the other And if thine Eye offend thee plucke it out as Christ said it is better to doe justice and enter into the Kingdome with one Eye then having two to be cast into Hest fire And this I am sure that neither Magistrate nor any other can enter into the Kingdome while darknesse is his Eye For if the Eye be evill the whole body is full of darknesse as Christ said Mat. 6. 23. But if any judge for God or doe justice for him his Eye must be single that his whole body may be full of light and fulfill Christs words Mat. 6. 22. But we have learned better Doctrine then to take Hammonds two Eyes for a perfect sight And it was this Eye in him which is grosse darknesse with which he hath Read over our Writings and so could not see to speak our own words again because darknesse had blinded his Eye And so all people may now see what light this man hath to Preach and Print withall or to prove damnable Doctrines by But good is the Word of the Lord which said That their folly should be made manifest unto all men as it now is in measure and will be fulfilled Pr. Againe thy spirit is up against the light and in page 18. thou sayst what ever a man may call the light within him if he call it the life of Christ in him yet if he live upon it as his righteousnesse for justification it is a plaine Covenant of Works Ans. Here thou sets thy selfe against the light and truth it selfe in open and wilfull rebellion but it is good for others who have formerly looked upon thee to be a man indewed with Wisedome and Knowledge of the Scriptures and now see thee so manifestly to declare against what they speake for the Scriptures testifie of Christ and saith that in him is life and the life is the light of men and his life is manifest in the mortall bodies and his life they live upon and eat his flesh and drinke his blood or else they had no life in them and living in his life we are the righteousnesse of God in him and in him are all the seed of Israel justified and shall glory And thou that saith to live upon the life of Christ is but a plaine Covenant of Works that 's blasphemy and error and the Lord hath made thee manifest Pr. Another false Doctrine hath Hammond affirmed That there are thousands in their state of darknesse that cannot follow Christ for want of light pag. 13. Ans. Then for what are they condemned Whether are they condemned because they cannot beleeve or because they doe not beleeve on him whom the Father hath sent And whether are they condemned because they cannot follow Christ or because they doe not follow him Or whether is it for want of light or for want of obedience to the light that men is condemned And is it not because they love the darkenesse rather then light when the light is come into the world Is this the condemnation that the light is not come into the world nor given to men or rather is not this the condemnation that light is come into the World and given unto men that every man in him might beleeve Their loving the darknesse rather then the light when come and given Is not this the cause of condemnation If so then Hammonds Doctrine to thousands is false Againe thou objects against G. Whitheads words because he saith that the light is greater then the conscience which is true Then thou sayst How is it that those Saints in New-England never soe the least breaking forth of it in the Indians and in Old-England hundreds manifest no other light but that of a naturall conscience and not much of that neither Ans. The Indians in New-England doe manifest more of the true light of Christ in their Words and Actions and Righteous Dealings then many of those thou calls saints there and it doth break forth to the sight of these that are among them and these hundreds i●Old-England that doe not manifest much of any light Is there ●●ne because they they doe not manifest it Doth not the true light of Christ enlighten people because they doe not manifest it to others that is thy ignorance of the light For they that manifest to others the true light by their obedience to it they shew that they have received Christ the true light and they that doe not manifest it to others they shew that they reject Christ who is the true light and is disobedient to the light wherewith he hath enlightned them and so by that which ap 〈…〉 it is manifest whether they love or hate obey or 〈◊〉 the light which Christ hath enlightened them with 〈…〉 and so the truth of what we have declared concer 〈…〉 the light will stand for a true testimony to the Lord thro 〈…〉 ●ut all generations Now is the day of Gods power where●● his light is broken forth and ●an understanding is begotten in people whereby they can see when the scorner 〈◊〉 his ignorance Thou challenges to shew Scripture that bids you look to ●●e light within you I have shewed thee many Scriptures 〈◊〉 speaks of the light within and Christ within and it is the light of Christ that thou so much hates and us for his sake 〈◊〉 if we had still continued in darknesse and ignorance 〈◊〉 thee then we should have been loved by thee for the World loves its own but because we walk in the light and bears testimony against the darknesse and works of unrighteousnesse therefore dost thou hate us and speak all manner of evill against us Now whereas in many places of thy Book thy scorne and envy and false accusations of G. W. is ●o manifest I shall let that passe and the truth of his words stand over thee for ever and when thou art manifestly declared to have spoken false things against us which thou canst not prove as that in page 18. A man improving 〈◊〉 naturall conscience is his growing up into perfection Now when thou art found false in that and that we never said so then thou
man the Keeper of the Mute-hall to betray the truth and to breake his promise as the Chiefe Priests ●yred Judas to betray Christ they gave him thirty pieces of silver to betray the just and thou gave this man thirty pence to break his Word and promise which he had made to the servants of the Lord and in love to the truth And thou saith thou gave it him to prevent the Quakers temptings Ans. Oh! foolish man thou makes it worse and worse Is money a means to keep men from temptation Didst thou not rather with the thirty pence tempt him to be unfathfull to the Lord and to break his promise And as without money Judas would hardly have been tempted to have betrayed Christ neither as thou supposeth would this man to have broke his promise and to resist the truth For thou saith thou considering that he might murmurre at your hindering of his gaine therefore you gave it him so then it seems it was not any convincement from your Doctrine nor any faith that he had in you that you were of God and we not but by tempting him with words and getting him into a ●●avish feare and then giving him money which if once the witnesse of God arise in him and he see the guilt of his treachery by your tempting words and money he may come to give you your money againe and tell you that the cu●se of God was in it and that by that thirty p●●c● he did sell the truth and bought it not But glory and everlasting prayses be to the Lord for ever that dayly brings your hidden things of darknesse to light and makes manifest the counsells of your hearts whereby all your temptings with money and words is discovered and that is but carnall weapons to defend your selves withall and with that you cannot keep the truth ●ut of New-castle but God hath a seed which he wild gather from amongst you which cannot be tempted neither with your words nor your money for you want the sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God so you must make use of carnall weapons money and flattering words to keep people in the wayes of sinne and death telling them that the Lord is amongst you and that no evill will come upon them speaking peace to them that live in iniquiry as the false Prophets did Mal. 3 15. and ye have wearied the Lord with your words which have been without spirit and life Mal. 2. 17. This is given forth to stop the ignorance of foolish men and that none may glory in their shame as Samuel H●mmond hath done of his Book in his Letter to A. P. wherein he desires him not to be offended with the seeming harshnesse of the Assertions and saith that he hath written nothing but truth and the mind of Christ c. but what is here declared it is manifest to all that desire to know truth from deceipt that he hath travelled in iniquity and brought forth lyes and wearied himselfe for very vanity Hab. 2. 13. and though his Aspersions is come forth in harshnesse against us yet we shall render him truth for lyes and love for harshnesse as Christ hath taught us and so heap coales of fire upon his Head NOw there remaines some-thing that people may take notice of which is the Fundamentall Principles or Doctrine of that Priest-hood there being severall of their Brethren of that Priest hood met together in a dispute with some of us in Branspith-castle upon the 21. day of the seventh Moneth affirmed as followeth Josias Dockerey affirmed and the rest assented 1. That they have the Scriptures and their Gospel not from God but from Men 2. That there is no knowledge of the Spirit without the Scriptures 3. That immediate Revelation or Inspiration is not to be expected nor looked for in these dayes and that to expect it is Diabolicall or Devilish 4. And that that which is contained or Written in this very Volume laying his Hand upon the Bible and that which appears visibly to h●s externall sences is the Gospel 5. That the flesh of Christ is not in them 6. That Christ had and hath a naturall carnall Body and is in Heaven with a naturall carnall body and hath an humane carnall fleshly Body joyned to his Divinity and is in Heaven with it 7. That Timothy received not this Gospel from God but from man viz. from Paul Rich. Frankling affirmed 8. That Grace could not be conveyed to any man from the Lord without the ordinary outward means of Preaching 9. That the light spoken of in John 1. which enlightens every man c. is not sufficient to leade up to Christ Hen. Leaver 10 That they knew no such thing as Prophesie by immediate I●spiration or Revelation in these dayes These things are their Principles and Doctrines which they Preach to people to beleeve and is but their own Tradition contrary to the Principles of the Doctrine of Ch 〈…〉 and the Testimony of Scriptures Ans. Now as to the first if not from God but from man they have received their Gospel then it is not that which the Apostle Preached but another And saith the Apostle though we or an Angell from Heaven Preach any other Gospel unto you then that which we have Preached unto you let him be accursed Gal. 1. 8. For saith he in the 12. verse I neither receiued it of man neither was I taught it but by the Revelation of Jesus Christ so no other Gospel received in any other way is to be received or beleeved for the Gospel is the power of God as Rom. 1. 16. I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ for it is the power of God to salvation to every one that beleeveth c. Now to say tha● they receive the power of God from man not from God is ignorance and error and to say that the Letter is the Gospel is as great ignorance and error and that Gospel 〈◊〉 accursed and he that Preaches it which is not received from God Now as to the second Pr. That there is no knowledge of the Spirit without the Scriptures Ans. If they had said that there had been no knowledge of Scriptures without the Spirit then they had spoken the truth whereas now they have spoken the plaine contrary for the Spirit gives the Knowledge of the Scriptures but the Scriptures gives not the Knowledge of the Spirit and the Apostle was of another judgement and Principle for saith he the letter killeth but the spirit giveth life and it is the spirit that quickneth John 6. 63. And John said they knew that they dwelt in God and he in them because he had given them of his spirit 1 John 4. 13. And Paul was an able Minister of the Testament not of the letter but of the spirit for the letter killeth but the spirit giveth life 2 Cor. 3. 6. now those before mentioned hath manifested that they are Ministers of the letter not of the spirit and so Preaches