upon_o angel_n i_o see_v little_a reason_n why_o he_o shall_v be_v think_v to_o speak_v in_o this_o fashion_n mere_o because_o he_o be_v in_o comparison_n but_o a_o novice_n in_o christianity_n when_o he_o write_v this_o book_n towards_o the_o end_n of_o his_o life_n he_o seem_v to_o be_v as_o fond_a as_o ever_o he_o have_v be_v of_o the_o relic_n of_o martyr_n and_o very_o desirous_a to_o make_v his_o prayer_n over_o they_o amb._n paulinus_n in_o vitâ_fw-la ambros_n paris_n amb._n if_o paulinus_n may_v be_v believe_v who_o observe_v that_o if_o the_o holy_a priest_n go_v to_o pray_v in_o a_o place_n at_o which_o he_o have_v never_o be_v see_v to_o pray_v before_o this_o be_v a_o token_n that_o he_o know_v by_o revelation_n the_o body_n of_o some_o martyr_n to_o lie_v hide_v thereabouts_o so_o that_o although_o the_o body_n he_o then_o speak_v of_o be_v soon_o translate_v into_o the_o church_n of_o the_o apostle_n yet_o st._n ambrose_n will_v loose_v no_o time_n but_o go_v forthwith_o to_o say_v his_o prayer_n to_o god_n at_o the_o place_n where_o they_o lay_v bury_v and_o probable_o enough_o to_o speak_v to_o they_o too_o believe_v that_o they_o be_v there_o near_o enough_o to_o observe_v and_o hear_v he_o and_o that_o they_o will_v assist_v he_o with_o their_o prayer_n thus_o sozomen_n tell_v we_o that_o theodosius_n go_v out_o of_o constantinople_n in_o his_o expedition_n against_o eugenius_n and_o come_v to_o the_o seven_o mile_n there_o 〈◊〉_d there_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d pray_v to_o god_n and_o likewise_o 24._o likewise_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sozom._n lib._n 7._o c._n 24._o call_v to_o john_n the_o baptist_n to_o help_v he_o i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o insist_v upon_o the_o difference_n of_o expression_n pray_v to_o god_n and_o call_v to_o the_o saint_n though_o several_a instance_n may_v be_v produce_v in_o favour_n of_o such_o a_o observation_n for_o here_o also_o we_o find_v that_o the_o place_n where_o the_o emperor_n pray_v to_o god_n 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heave_v up_o very_o high_a from_o the_o ground_n and_o the_o devil_n that_o be_v in_o he_o ibid._n ibid._n rail_v at_o the_o baptist_n and_o reproach_v he_o for_o have_v lose_v his_o head_n but_o yet_o can_v not_o forbear_v confess_v to_o he_o in_o this_o manner_n thou_o overcome_v i_o and_o defeat_a my_o army_n i_o confess_v i_o be_o apt_a to_o suspect_v foul_a play_n in_o this_o prank_n of_o the_o devil_n if_o it_o be_v true_a and_o do_v believe_v that_o god_n ought_v to_o have_v have_v the_o glory_n not_o a_o whit_n the_o less_o for_o the_o devil_n give_v it_o to_o the_o saint_n but_o such_o kind_n of_o report_n be_v make_v use_n of_o to_o confirm_v people_n in_o a_o opinion_n of_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o martyr_n at_o their_o memory_n for_o the_o devil_n be_v speak_v to_o john_n the_o baptist_n here_o be_v his_o acknowledgement_n of_o it_o and_o in_o the_o practice_n of_o make_v address_n to_o they_o there_o upon_o that_o account_n nothing_o yet_o appear_v to_o the_o contrary_a 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