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A78585 The character of a puritan; and his gallimaufrey of the antichristian clergie; prepared with D. Bridges sawce for the present time to feed on. By the worthy gentleman, D. Martin Mar-Prelat, Doctor in all the faculties, Primate and Metropolitan. Mar-Prelat, Martin, Doctor in all the faculties. 1643 (1643) Wing C1987; Thomason E87_11; ESTC R212793 19,559 29

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I have said and namely the unlawfullnesse of Lord Bishops Minist Sir that point hath been handled by your betters and manifestly confuted by my Lords grace in his writings against Cartwright Puritan Indeed he that will be blind cannot see it but he that looks in both their Works with a single eye cannot but confesse Mr. Cartwright to have confuted him by unanswerable evidence or els why would he not have answered Mr. Cartwrights works now a dozen yeares extant and more Minist As you of the Fantasticall crew think but he hath done it and that so sufficiently already that there needs no more Answers and againe his Grace is now otherwise troubled with matters of State that he cannot intend it or if he could yet it is not for him so to abase himselfe in regard of his high Calling which he is now placed in Puritan As though the cause of God were to be neglected in respect of his high place if he were lawfully called thereunto as he doth very unlawfully usurpe the same contrary to the Law of God for is it possible he can be the true Minister of God and a Temporall Magistrate that is to serve God and Mammon to as the Apostle saith Let him that hath an office attend upon his office and not Offices Minist Why how dare you presume to say so Were not Lord Bishops established by Her Majesty and consent of the whole Parliament Puritan I grant they were but the Lord hath said contrary in the Commandement he gave to his Ministers Luke 22. saying The Kings of the Gentiles raigne over them and they that beare rule over them are called gracious Lords but ye shall not be so but let the greatest among you be as the least and the chiefest as him that serveth And 1 Pet. 5. Feed the Flocke of God which dependeth upon you caring for it not by constraint but willingly not for filthy lucre but of a ready mind Not as though ye were Lords over Gods heritage but that ye may be ensamples to the Flocke And in the first session of Parliament ☜ holden in the First yeare of her Majesties raigne there was never a Lord Bishop in the Land Minist If you will have no Lord Bishop how should the Church be governed then Puritan According as our Saviour Christ hath commanded and as the Holy Ghost hath set it down viz. by Pastors Teachers Elders and Deacons Rom 12. Ephes 4.1 Cor. 12. Minist You are very full of Scripture as though we have not the same Offices in effect though not in the same Titles as for example have not we Parsons for Teachers Vickers for Pastors Churchwardens for Elders and Sidemen for Deacons to distribute to the poore Puritan And what for Archbishops and Lord Bishops Iacke I will tell you for him Archbishops for Popes and Lord Bishops for Cardinals Ha ha Mr Vicker I see you are a good Churchman doe not you use the Pulpit sometimes Minist No indeed Sir but I read the Homilies somtimes and the Queens Injunctions and doe my duty as other Ministers doe Puritan I thought so by that fit comparison that you have made Iacke And have you no more but one Benefice neither and yet doe all that Minist Yes indeed I say Service at two more but I have little profit by them marie the best is they are somwhat neer for they are all three within foure miles together Puritan And how can you serve them all upon the Sabbath day Minist Some of them are but small and I can make quicke dispatch with them betimes and take my Mare and ride to the other and can make an end of all by ten of the clocke and spend an houre with good Fellows at home before Dinner to Puritan And Master Vicker do you think herein that you discharge your duty to God and those Congregations over whom you have taken this charge Minist Why Sir I discharge my duty better then those that take upon them foure or five Puritan Why is there any that takes upon them the charge of so many Minist Yea a hundred in England Puritan Well I will tell you the fearefull judgements of God hangs over our heads and cannot be long deferred but fall upon the whole Land where to such dumb Idolls as you are is committed the charge of soules and to your selves eternall destruction of body and soule wherfore Mr. Vicker as you tender your owne salvation leave this your unlawfull Calling of the Ministry and betake you to some occupation or Husbandry Minist I care not what any of you spightfull Puritans say so long as I can have the favour of my Lord Bishop Iacke I pray you Mr. Vicker let me spurre a question unto you if I may be so bold where do you serve Minist I serve in Middlesex Sir Iacke Who made you Minister Minist My good Lord of London Puritan Like enough he hath made a great many of blind guides in his time besides you for he made the Porter of his Gate Minister of Paddington being blind Iacke O monstrous is this true did he so indeed Puritan It is most true for the Bishop of Winchester hath recorded it in a Booke of his set forth in Print Iacke Why what will our Bishops grow to in time if they be suffered for me thinks this is a fearefull thing to make such Ministers as can neither see nor speake for it is like if he were the Porter no doubt of it he had not the gift of Teaching Puritan Very true but because he could do him no longer service he was so good to him to provide for the poore blind man that he might live Iacke Sure I think when they come once to be Lords they cleane forget God and all Godlinesse for I have heard that there was some good things in him before he was Bishop of London for he wrote a Book called the Harborow of faithfull Subjects against Bishops wherein he saith Come down ye Bishops with your thousands and betake you to your hundreds let your fare be Priestlike and not Princelike c. Puritan Indeed he wrote such a Book and the same words that you repeat I have read in the same but alas when he was at the best he was but a corrupt man and the best things in it savour but of earth for there is many things handled in it very immodestly and unchristianly but one thing especially he sets down there which himselfe practiseth clean contrary where he speaks of the ability that should be in every Minister of the Word that he should know his quarter strocks to be able to convince the adversary c. Minist Why will you have none Ministers but such as can preach I can tell you that the twentieth Minister in the Land cannot preach Puritan The more the worse for you and the rest how many soever there be stand without repentance in a most damnable state for you are most notorious murtherers of soules in taking upon you so high
dealt not so hardly with the Ministers as now he doth and that often in his Sermons at Northampton he would confesse that the Discipline was used and practised in the Primitive Church a long time after the Apostles Puritan It is very true and yet he saith in his Book against Martin that the holy Discipline is a platforme devised he knows not by whom And in another place of the same Booke he confestes that it was practised by the Apostles and long time after in the Primitive Church And upon the words where he saith it is not denyed there is pasted at the commandement of the Bishop of Canterbury It is not yet proved so that there is some jarre between themselves although these two are most conversant together and joyn in one to persecute sincere and faithfull Preachers of the Word and others of the Lords Children Iacke I had thought they would not have dissented one from another of them Puritan Why Sir in the 49. page of the same Booke the Bishop of Winchester saith the Bishop of Canterbury is a giddy head and to be bridled because he authorised Doctor Whitaker his readings against Bellarmine wherein the Apocripha is defaced And Mr. Doctor Some one of their affinite no we and a nonresident he calls the Archbishop of Canterbury An absurd Hereticke because he holds Baptisme administred by Women to be the Seale of Gods Covenant pag. 3. of his Booke against Master Penri and many like things I could cite to you of their dissenting one from another Iacke How like you of these things Master Vicker be not these good Fathers of the Church think you Minist I like never a whit the worse of them for your words for I know they are but slaunders Puritan Master Vicker you I know like well of them although the proofes that their adversaries doe bring be never so manifest and plain against them because you are in the same state or worse and may be in that you doe unlawfully usurpe your place and having no fit Gifts to discharge your duty in any measure Remember what the Apostle saith 1 Cor. 6.19 Woe to me if I preach not the Gospel this is rightly pronounced upon you and all such Idols as you are Minist If I read Sermons and Homilies is it not as much as if I preached for Mr. Doctor Bridges saith that reading is preaching Puritan The Lord hath promised no such blessing unto reading as preaching for the Word preached is the onely ordinary meanes to salvation But I pray you for your comfort heare what the Prophet Ieremy saith to you in the 48 Chap. Cursed be that man that doth the worke of the Lord negligently And Mallac 2.7 saith The Priestes lips should preserve knowledge and they should seeke the law at his mouth but how can you shunne this curse Master Vicker I pray God humble your heart that you may acknowledge your sinne and crave pardon at his hands and leave the Ministry lest the Lord with a strong hand throw you out to your everlasting woe Iacke Master Vicker he gives you good councell it were good for you to follow it if you doe not it will be the worse for you Minist Well Sir it is no matter there be as wise as he will give me other councell Iacke Why I see Master Vicker is obstinate he will not be perswaded by you Puritan Even as he will I speak my Conscience to him he may chuse if he will follow it or no. Iacke I marvell what good hospitality the Bishop of London keeps I have heard that he is very covetous Minist Indeed he doth keep a good house Iacke What doth not the dogs runne away out of his house with whole shoulders I think a man may as soone break his neck as break his fast at his house Puritan Surely I can say thus much by report of one that was his Chaplaine whose name is Haiward Vicker of Saint Martins by Charing crosse that often times when he dined at his Pallace in London he hath made his Servants to take the Fragments and carry them to Fulham but if there be any dainty morsell lest he will wrap it up in his Handkerchiefe and carry it in his bosome for feare lest his men should beguile him Iacke O Master Vicker you have a most bountifull Lord he is so liberall that he will not suffer the scraps to be bestowed upon the poore but to be kept for his Servants Supper Minist It is false for I have often seen alines given at his Gates when he hath lien at London Puritan I le tell you what I have heard him say at Panls Grosse my selfe upon a time following his text very well your must think he burst me out with a great exclamation of himselfe in that he was poore and had no money protesting what charges he had bin at and that Pauls Church can beare me witnesse saith he that I have no money And shortly after some of his own Servants being there present and heard him belike thought to make their good Lord a lyar● very shortly after rob'd him of certain hundred of pounds for which offence he was so good unto his men as to hang them up three or foure in number I although he had the most part of his money againe and some of the parties executed protested to their knowledge he had much more money at usury and that his servants lived only upon bribes Iacke A Bishop a Lyar and a Usurer nay surely Mr. Vicker if your Lord have those two faults it cannot be but he hath more so that for my own part I think him verily to be the Bishop of the Devill Puritan Nay Sir I can give you proofe for the same more that he is surely the Bishop of the Devill for Martin Mar-prelate hath set down a pretty thing in his Epistle to the terrible Priests that the Bishop of London when he throws his Bowle as he useth it commonly upon the Sabbath day he runnes after it and if it be too hard he cries rub rub rub and saith the Divel goe with thee when he goeth himselfe with it So that by those words he nameth himselfe the Bishop of the Divell but by his practise of tyrannicall dealing against the Lords faithfull Ministers not onely calleth but proveth himselfe to be the Bishop of the Devil Iacke Ha ha Master Vicker you see your Lord Bishop is a Devil by his own confession so indeed you are not the Lords Minister but the Minister of the Devil as your Lord Bishop is the Bishop of the Devil Minist You use your speeches at pleasure of my Lord it may be you will not so easily answer them when you are called thereunto Iacke Yes Master Vicker I warrant you Send a Pursuivant when you will for us and we will answer it if we cannot make our parts good enough we will send the Woman of Hampsteed to him Minist What meane you by that Iacke If you will needs have me I will