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A33981 The vindication of liturgies, lately published by Dr. Falkner, proved no vindication of the lawfulness, usefulness, and antiquity of set-forms of publick ministerial prayer to be generally used by, or imposed on all ministers, and consequently an answer to a book, intituled, A reasonable account why some pious nonconformists judge it sinful, for them to perform their ministerial acts in by the prescribed forms of others : wherein with an answer to what Dr. Falkner hath said in the book aforesaid, the original principles are discovered, from whence the different apprehensions of men in this point arise / by the author of the Reasonable account, and Supplement to it. Collinges, John, 1623-1690. 1681 (1681) Wing C5345; ESTC R37651 143,061 307

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〈◊〉_d that_o can_v not_o be_v without_o a_o resurrection_n for_o nazianzen_n die_v 389_o which_o be_v above_o 50_o year_n before_o sozomen_n write_v be_v not_o this_o as_o great_a a_o miracle_n as_o gregorius_n magnus_n his_o living_n 200_o year_n what_o then_o do_v nazianzen_n expound_v lucian_n word_n there_o be_v no_o evidence_n he_o ever_o speak_v any_o such_o only_a sozomen_n so_o phrase_v what_o he_o do_v but_o lucian_n in_o his_o epistle_n say_v no_o such_o thing_n or_o at_o least_o have_v no_o such_o word_n indeed_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v more_o proper_o expressive_a of_o the_o thing_n in_o question_n form_n of_o prayer_n than_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o nazianz._n be_v not_o by_o our_o author_n quote_v to_o have_v say_v any_o such_o thing_n be_v establish_v only_o to_o expound_v the_o word_n of_o another_o author_n who_o write_v 50_o year_n after_o he_o be_v dead_a or_o julian_n who_o never_o appear_v to_o have_v use_v such_o word_n so_o he●●_n be_v a_o fine_a flourish_n of_o word_n to_o no_o purpose_n but_o to_o delude_v the_o reader_n 20._o our_o vindicator_n be_v now_o come_v to_o his_o proof_n from_o the_o year_n 200_o to_o the_o year_n 300_o where_o he_o refer_v to_o his_o proof_n in_o libertas_n eccles_n from_o what_o he_o have_v of_o origen_n and_o cyprian_n and_o i_o refer_v to_o my_o answer_n in_o my_o supplement_n p._n 21._o 22_o only_o mind_v our_o vindicator_n that_o there_o be_v a_o great_a deal_n of_o difference_n betwixt_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d prayer_n appoint_v and_o form_n of_o prayer_n appoint_v the_o latter_a be_v not_o in_o origen_n but_o the_o former_a which_o prove_v no_o appointment_n of_o form_n but_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v prayer_n at_o such_o time_n 21._o for_o what_o he_o add_v out_o of_o tertullian_n of_o their_o have_v a_o form_n of_o renuntiation_n in_o baptism_n and_o h_n mn_v and_o the_o council_n of_o antioch_n 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be_v therefore_o retain_v beside_o it_o be_v justify_v by_o our_o saviour_n command_v by_o the_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n in_o that_o very_a chap._n joel_n 2._o where_o at_o the_o 17._o v._n our_o vindicator_n think_v he_o have_v find_v a_o collect_n to_o be_v use_v in_o the_o jewish_a worship_n he_o may_v have_v also_o find_v a_o promise_n at_o v._o 28._o relate_v to_o the_o day_n of_o pentecost_n as_o appear_v by_o acts._n 2.17_o i_o will_v power_n out_o my_o spirit_n on_o all_o flesh_n and_o this_o spirit_n zech._n 12.10_o be_v a_o spirit_n of_o supplication_n a_o spirit_n of_o adoption_n teach_v we_o to_o cry_v abba_n father_n and_o because_o we_o know_v not_o what_o to_o pray_v for_o help_v our_o infirmity_n with_o strong_a cry_n and_o groan_n which_o can_v be_v utter_v rom._n 8._o it_o be_v therefore_o very_o ill_o argue_v to_o argue_v divine_a institution_n under_o the_o gospel_n and_o the_o mode_n or_o mean_n of_o they_o from_o the_o institution_n under_o the_o law_n but_o far_o 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corporeal_a presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n this_o be_v manifest_a in_o the_o whole_a history_n of_o those_o time_n write_v by_o scultetus_n hospinian_n and_o sleidan_n he_o publish_v two_o edition_n of_o short_a com._n place_n the_o one_o 1535_o which_o he_o dedicate_v to_o hen._n viii_o king_n of_o england_n the_o other_o large_o print_v 1543._o in_o both_o which_o be_v a_o common_a place_n about_o prayer_n but_o in_o the_o first_o no_o such_o passage_n as_o our_o vindicator_n quote_v in_o the_o latter_a i_o find_v something_o like_o it_o p._n 558._o in_o these_o word_n sed_fw-la quia_fw-la difficilis_fw-la est_fw-la attentio_fw-la in_o recitatione_n ideo_fw-la ignavi_fw-la fugiunt_fw-la recitationes_fw-la at_o ecclesia_fw-la semper_fw-la eas_fw-la proposuit_fw-la et_fw-la publicae_fw-la et_fw-la privatim_fw-la eas_fw-la exercere_fw-la jubet_fw-la ideo_fw-la psalmitraditi_fw-la sunt_fw-la summo_fw-la concilio_fw-la compositi_fw-la &_o christus_fw-la ipse_fw-la 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