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A05364 A consultation what faith and religion is best to be imbraced. Written in Latin by the R. Father Leonard Lessius, Professour in Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English by W.I. Lessius, Leonardus, 1554-1623.; Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1618 (1618) STC 15517; ESTC S105037 99,482 276

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Caluin is also manifest out of the Iudiciall Actes and processe of the Citty of Noyon in France Bolsecus in vita Calui ni cap. 5. Iul. Brigerus pag. 59. that he was conuicted of a wicked crime and by sentence condemned to haue byn publiquely burned if by the intercession of the Bishop of that place that punishment had not byn changed into whipping and burning vpon his backe with a hoat iron Wherby it is cuident that both by law deed he was infamous L. 1. ff de his qui not antur insamia and L. Quid ergo § Ex compromisso ff de his qui not antur infamia Of the pride and rayling of Luther it is euident First because from this fountaine to wit of pride all his doctrines toke their beginning For when as certayne Indulgences were to be promulgated in Germany and that the office therof hauing heertofore belonged to the Augustine Friars now they being at this tyme pretermitted the same was giuen in Commission to the Dominicans Which thing Luther taking in very ill part began with a splene to preach against Indulgences and though he were therof admonished and reprehended notwithstanding by little and little he not only continued the same but adioyned heerunto many more and greater articles of faith against the Authority of the Pope wherby he caused wonderfull troubles and garboyles throughout all Germany as largely wryteth Ioannes Cochlaeus that was an eye wittnes of all these things in the Acts of Luther an 1517. This pride and anger then was the first origen and ofspring of all Luthers doctrine without which perhaps Lutheran Religion had neuer byn nor so many other new sectes neither which since that tyme haue sprong vp and risen from thence Secondly for that Luther in his Epistle to those of Strasburge writeth that he would gladly deny the Reall presence of Christ in the holy Eucharist therby to trouble vex the Popedome if the Scriptures were not cleere against the same to the contrary And in another place he writeth thus If a Councell should appoint or permit the receyuing of the Sacramēt vnder both kinds lib. de formula miss we by no meanes would vse both but in despite of the Councell and appointment therof would eyther vse one or neyther cursing all such as by order of that Councell should vse both kinds c. Heere yow see he teacheth vs to abstayne from a thing necessary for our Saluation and that only in despite of the Councell that should comand or appoint it when as notwithstanding we may and oftentymes ought to obay euen a Tyrant when he comaundeth things lawfull Wherby we may see with what spirit he was caried way For what may be compared to this fury of his The same Luther in his booke against K. Henry the 8. of England wryteth that Kings Princes Popes are not worthy to loose the lachet of his shoe and that himselfe will be accompted for a holy man whether men will or no. Also that he cares not for a thousand Cyprians nor a thousand Augustines Also Christian Princes Kings and Emperours he calleth Tyrants Idiots fooles simple fellowes wild beasts hangmen nittes bubles enemyes of God most wicked knaues inuenteth scurrilous songes and rithmes against them Of Caluins pride and rayling besides that which D. Bolsecke hath aboundantly written the same is most euident in * lib 2. Inst c. 14. §. 3. lib. 3. c. 4 §. 10. lib. 4. c. 12. §. 20. alibi Caluins owne books also for that he doth euery where contemn al the holy and ancient Fathers of the Church and male partly accuseth them of errour The Schoole doctors he calleth Sophistes In his Sermons he oftentymes brake forth into these and such like words I am a Prophet I haue the spirit of God and if I erre God hath deceyued me and brought me into errour for the sinnes of the people c. He wrote also diuers letters and pamphlets of his own praises dignity merit in the Church which he alwaies published eyther in other mens or some feygned name as D. Bolsecke and others do wryte Many the like trickes might I alledge aswell against these as against other Authors and defenders of the new Religions of this Age but that I am very vnwilling to occupy my selfe in such affayres He that will see more in this kind let his read the life of Beza written also by D. Bolsecke Flores ●ulij Brigeri Surius his Comentaryes others Now then considering these things who can once thinke with himselfe that God would choose and vse such men as these were to wit infamous by all law and iudgment of the whole world of a most filthy life of an vnbridled and rayling tongue of a proud ambitious angry and enuious mind to be the reformers of his Church Who euer noted any such conditions or qualityes either in the Apostles or Prophets who were all most humble and no wayes infamous for any wickednes And although they were vnlearned and simple notwithstanding vpon a suddaine the were indued with admirable wisdome sanctity of life and grace of miracles They were wonderfully lowly of mynd of wonderfull meeknes they contemned the pleasures of this life and the earthly delightes of all thinges they were indued with wonderfull charity towards their neighbours they were wonderfully modest and circumspect in all their words and actions These and the like conditions and qualities we fee to haue byn in all such whome God hath vsed for the Conuersion of Nations and reformation of Christian people As for example in S. Augustine the Apostle of the English in S. Bonisace the Apostle of the Germans in S. Adalbert S. Etto S. VVillebrord S. Eloy and other Apostles of other Nations Also in S. Benet S. Bernard S. Romuald S. Dominike S. Francis and others by whose example and doctrine very many haue byn stirred vp to the contempt of earthly and transitory things and loue celestiall And if God did vse such men as these to the Conuersion of any Nation or Prouince or to the reformation or correction of manners in any people whose life was admirable to the world who notwithstanding did not receiue their mission immediatly from God but from the Pope by whome they were sent to do and execute these offices then I pray yow what manner of men had it byn fit that these should-haue byn who are said to haue byn sent inmediatly frō God and this not only for the reformation of the chiefe heads and points of religion but also to the reedification instauration of the whole Church and Kingdome of Christ now ruined And although al the sanctity and excellency all the vertues and spirituall giftes which were eyther in S. Iohn Baptist or any of the Apostles had byn all heaped togeather in one and had byn all infused into these men yet had the same not byn sufficient to warrant their Authority of so great a busines And shall we be so sottish then
vnited themselues to the Church of Christ and now to force them as it were into other abhominable errors and new Idolatry and that by such who were accompted and accepted of all men for lawfull Ministers of the Church and were famous for sanctity of life wisdom miracles God for bid that euer we should so thinke of his Diuine goodnes and prouidence which he vseth for mans saluation Furthermore to Lutheranisme Caluinisme or Anabapt●sme there was neuer heard of any conuersion of Nations or Pagan Kingdomes but only a defection of some few who professing the name of Christ and weary of their ancient Religion and discipline did follow the liberty of their lust nouelty which is a manifest argument of heresy For that heresy is nothing els but a corruption of Catholike doctrine and a defection or falling away from ancient Christian Religion only retayning the name of a Christian ●●esides the study of hereticall teachers is not to conuert Ethnicks but peruert Christians which Tertullian excellently describeth in his booke of Prescriptions Of administration of the word saith he what shall I say Seing that their busines is not to conuert Ethnicks but to peruert ours Christians They do take more glory to bring to ruine those that stand fast then to help those vp that are fallen because that this their endeauour comes not from their owne building but from the destruction of truth They digge vp ours to build vp theirs So as it commeth to passe that they worke the downfall of standing edifices more easily then the building of decayed ruines VI. CONSIDERATION From the Name Catholike from the thinge it selfe signed or marked with this Name FVRTHERMORE that Religion is to be esteemed for the true Religion which hath alwayes byn accompted called Catholike according to that of the Apostolicall creed Credo Sanctam Ecclesiam Catholicam I beleeue the holy Catholik Church But the Roman Church of all other Churches is only called the Catholick and her followers Catholikes Ergo only the Roman Religion is the true Religiō of Christ That the Roman Church is and alwayes hath byn only called Catholick is manifest First by the very vse custome of so calling her receyued throughout the world so as oftentymes the heretikes themselues in their wrytings do call her Catholike and her followers Catholiks neyther did any Sect whatsoeuer deserue that name For neuer were the Marcionites Montanistes Donatists Pelagians Vigilantians Waldenses Lutherans Caluinists or Anabaptistes called Catholikes or their doctrine Catholike Only the Roman Church with the people adhering vnto her is called the Catholike and the Religion faith doctrine of this Church is called the Catholike Religion the Catholikefaith the Catholike doctrine and her followers Catholikes Secondly Catholike is extended to all Nations because Catholike is the same that Vniuersall most largely extending it selfe to all And such is the Roman Religion for that it being dilated and spread ouerall the world doth extend it selfe to all nations and Kingdomes For that there is no Kingdome nor Nation vnknowne to vs which eyther doth not or somtymes did or doth not now begin to imbrace this religiō Nay now adayes the professiō of this our religion is almost publike amongst all Nations to wit amongst those of Iaponia China India Persia Tartariae Turky Africa Brasile Peru Mexico c. For that in all these places are found Catholikes Churches Altars Images of Christ and of Saintes Masse is there celebrated our Sacraments are there administred holydayes and fasting dayes are there kept and finally the Roman religion is there publikely obserued Who can then doubt but that this is the true way of saluation to all which our Sauiour would haue taught preached and proposed to all nations which he would haue to increase and fructify in all Kingdomes in due tyme and season and which he doth stil conserue by some meanes or other in euery place ordayning that Catholikes be so dispersed throughout the whole world that by them Infidels may come to the knowledge of true Religion Moreouer this Catholike Religion doth extend it selfe to al tymes It extendeth it selfe to all tymes euen frō the Apostles For that there can be no age from that tyme assigned wherin this Religion did not florish In all ages hath Masse byn celebrated both for the liue and dead feastes solemnized fastes obserued Monasticall vowes made Saints worshipped their reliques honoured and such other like proper ensignes of our religion haue byn in vse and practice as is manifest out of the writers of all tymes On the contrary side No sect euer called Catholick let vs looke vpon all other sectes and we shall neuer find that any one of them was euer called Catholike nor their followers Catholikes as we haue said but that euery one tooke their names of their first Authors as the Simonians Valentinians Pelagians Lutherans No sect euer spread ouer the world Caluinists c. No sect was euer spread ouer the world When Catholike Religion began once to appeare in short tyme it was spread ouer the whole world and began to increase and fructify almost in all Kingdomes Rom. 1● Colōss 1. as S. Paul affirmeth But Lutheranisme Caluinisme and Anabaptisme now after 70. or 80. yeares are yet confined to certayne strayt corners do rather daily decay by eyther going into other sects or els returning to Catholike Religion then any way increase For that none of them hath continued from the Apostles tymes but all sprung vp and inuented within these 70. or 80. yeares last past and therfore neyther in regard of tyme place nor otherwise can they be called Catholike Againe I say that Catholike Religion is one and the selfe same euery where But these religions are exceeding different amongst themselues and disagreeing in their chiefe heads and members one damning another to the pit of hell of heresy how therfore can they be called Catholike VII CONSIDERATION From Succession FVRTHER MORE that Religion is to be accompted the true whose ministers do all descend from the Apostles and are eyther the Apostles successors or haue receiued their order and authority from their sucessours For by this reason it will appeare manifest that that Religion and Church which doth honour imbrace a religion so descended to be Apostolicall Ergo c. Now that all Ministers of the Catholike Religion whether we consider the power of their order or Iuris diction haue descended from the Apostles it is cleere For that all inferiour ministers especialy Priests Deacons Subdeacons receiue their order from Bishops Bishops also haue their order from other Bishops and these likewise againe from others and so futhermore vpwards to the Apostles who receiued this power immediatly from Christ As all men therfore according to their vitall and naturall power do by a long course of genealogy descend from our first Parent Adam so do all ministers of the Catholike Church according to their supernaturall power by a longe
as to belieue that God would euer vse such men for so meruaylous and high an enterprize as were not only not endued with any holines of life at al but rather to the contrary full of all infamy impurity pride reueng and rayling For to what end had this byn els but to giue occasion to such as haue but the least dram of wisdome not to admit them but as false impostors to auoyd and detest them For if those who be infamous may not by the * Cap. infamibus li. 6. L. Qui accusare ff de accusat l. 1. ff de postulā do law be admitted to any dignity or to any office eyther Ecclesiasticall or secular no nor to accuse or demaund How then shall such be admitted as reformers of religion as chiefe architects or heads of the Church or as Iudges of Bishops Popes and generall Councells The VI. Reason From their errors and inconstancy in Doctrine THE sixth reason is for that the Authors of these new religions haue manifest errors and are very inconstant in their doctrine which is an euident signe that they haue not the infallible direction of the Holy Ghost and therfore are not sent immediatly from God nor any trust is to be giuen vnto them For how many soeuer haue byn sent of God to teach and instruct the people were so gouerned by his heauēly assistance and direction that they could not be deceaued in anything eyther in their teaching preaching or writing So as there was neuer any the least error found in the doctrine of the Prophets or Apostles which our Sauiour insinuateth saying Iota vnum aut vnus apex non praeteribit à lege donec omnia fiant One iote or one tittle shall not passe of the law till all be fulfilled Matth. 5. Epist 19. The same thing doth S. Augustine teach largely in his Epistle to S. Hierome where he sayth That if in any writer one fault only should be found it were inough to discredit the whole authority of that wryter For he that is deceaued in one might be deceaued in more and therfore we may not firmly rely vpon him Luther himselfe also teacheth vs the same thing in many places of his workes Lib. contra Empserū whose words are these Si semel deprehenderer c. If I should be once foūd so lying false and grossely ignorant then should all my learning honor and fidelity vtterly haue an end In assert Teuton art 25. for that euery man as reasen requireth would account me for a lewd and infamous knaue And againe Qui semel mentitur c. whosoeuer is once taken in a lye know most certainly that he is not of God but ought to be suspected in all things c. Which thing 〈◊〉 inculcateth in six other seuerall places of his workes Nay moreouer our Sauiour himselfe gaue vnto vs this signe in the Scripture that if a tany tyme we deprehended a Prophet fortelling any thing that was false we should certainely know that he was not sent of God This being layed as a sure foundation I make this argument Whosoeuer in his doctrine doth erre but in any one point he is not sent from God but Caluin and Luther in their doctrines do erre in many things Ergo it is certaine that they are not sent of God The Mai●r is already sufficiently proued which our Aduersaries themselues do also confesse The Minor I proue thus For to omit all those things which they do falsely obiect to Catholiks and which they do falsly affirme to be noueltyes in our Doctrine and vnknowne to the ancients To omit also all historicall and chronographicall errors I wil lay forth only two of theirs of most moment which are common to then both The one That we haue no frewill but all things do happen through an ineuitable necessity The other That God is no lesse the Author and sorcer of euill works then of good That these be most manifest and pernicious errors is euident because they take a way all policy all good counsell all lawes and preceptes all Iudges and Tirbunales For that all these are in vayne if there be no frewill in man Moreouer the punishing of all kind of wickednes shal be vniust also for that whatsoeuer is not free of it selfe what soeuer is done by God as the author and compeller therof deserueth no punishment And finally by this meanes they take away hell it selfe and all punishment of the life to come and bring in a most profuse liberty to all kind of vice and sinne as before we haue shewed in the second Consideration These very two opinions haue giuen occasion to many to go frō Caluinisme to Turcisme or els to Atheisme For that it is much better to haue no God Flores Calu. pag. 49. then such a one who is compeller and Author of all wickdnesse Now as concerning the inconstancy of their doctrine euen in most speciall things the same is incredible Since the world began there was neuer found a writer so inconstant so forgetful and so contrary to himselfe and ouerthrower of his owne doctrine as Luther For that he doth no lesse impugne himselfe then the holy Fathers and Councells that almost in all the chiefe heads of faith as * In oper● inscripto Lutherus Septiceps Ioannes Cochlaeus and others do shew at large And about that only controuersy of the Eucharist out of Luthers owne workes himselfe being yet aliue were noted 36. manifest contradictions by one Gaspar (a) In tabula contradict Lutheri Querhamer a lay man of Saxony and published to the world to Luthers vtter confusion and no small cracke of his credit In like manner about Communion vnder one kind were noted by Cochlaeus seauen different heads contradictory one to the other And finally the whole booke of Cochlaeus intituled Lutherus Septiceps conteyneth nothing els but Luthers contradictions and contrary opinions almost of euery article in controuersy set downe and expressed in his owne very words And in euery contradiction yow know it is necessary that one part be falst Of Caluins Contradictions 24. are set downe by Coccius in his owne words two wherof will be sufficient to set downe in this place Of Gods omnipotency in one (b) ad cap. 1. Lucae place he saith Verbo Dei c. There is no impossibility to be obiected to the word of God And in (c) ad Cap. 2 I saiae another place he saith Illud somnium c. That dreame of the absolute power in God which the deuynes haue introduced is an execerable blasphemy And (d) de praedestinatione againe Ego detestor c. I do detest this doctrine wherewith the ●apisticall deuines do please themselues when they feigne a certaine absolute power in God c. About the diuinity of Christ in one (e) ad cap. 1. loan vers 1. place he wryteth Christum esse verum Deum c. That Christ is true God of the
same substance with his Father And in (f) Cont. Gentil refutat 10. another place Nomen dei c. The Name of God by excellency doth pertayne only to the Father and he is only properly the Creatour of heauen and earth Nay more the Sonne is subiect to the Father also according to his Diuinity Againe in the same place Impropriam duram c. That is an improper hard speach of the Nicene Creed God of God Light of Light And in his 2. Epistle to the Poloniam he affirmeth that Christ according also to his Diuine Nature is inferiour to the Father Behould then whither this nouelty is come at last These things being considered what wise man can euer be brought to belieue that these men were sent of God to reforme the Church For how should they repayre this ruined Church who so shamefully destroy their owne doctrine Who can be thought so simple and of so small wisdome and circumspection that he cannot auoyd so manifest contradictions in matters of so great moment Certainly whosoeuer is contrary to himselfe and what he now establisheth by and by destroyeth againe he without all doubt doth not speake from the spirit of God For if I build saith the Apostle the same things againe which I haue destroyed I make my selfe a preuaricatour ad Galat. 2. The spirit of God cannot be contrary to it selfe nor deny it selfe Wherunto is added that although they contradict themselues in many thinges and ouerthrowe their owne pleas yet notwithstanding they are so bold malepart that they dare affirme themselues to be certaine of their owne Doctrine and the same to be most true and the very Doctrine it selfe of Christ For so saith Luther Certus sum quòd c. Contra Regē Angliae I am certayne that I haue my Doctrine from heauē And I am most certaine that my Doctrine is not myne but of Christ and that my doctrine cannot be contrary to it selfe seing that it is the Doctrine of Christ And in another place he saith Se ita esse c. that hit Doctrine is so certaine that he will not haue it iudged of Contra Statum Ecclesiast or contradicted by any man no not of the Angels And that no man can be saued vnlesse he receyue and imbrace his doctrine In like manner Caluin was wont often to exclayme in his sermons that he was a Prophet and that be could not be deceyued vnlesse God had deceyued him c. as before in the 5. Reason we haue shewed By which it is manifest that these men did not only not speake out of the spirit of God when as they are so full of errors and contradictions but that they be impostors also deceyuers of the people For whosoeuer affirmeth his Doctrine wherin there be so many errors and contradictions to be of God is presumed not to deale sincerely but to speake against his conscience and to beguile the people seeing that it is euident that he that doth so can haue no in ward light frō God wherby to make him certaine of the verity of his doctrine or the testimony of God because God cannot witnesse or reueale Doctrines contrary or repugnant one to the other With what force then do they so bouldly affirme that their Doctrine is of God or the Doctrine of Christ therfore they do not deale vprightly in this affayre but would only deceyue the world Some perhaps may answere herunto and say that now and then they erred in the beginning when as they had not as yet fully the spirit of God but afterward they neither erred nor changed their opinions But this answere hath no colour of truth For whosoeuer haue byn sent immediatly from God to teach and instruct the people they had presently in the very beginning of their mission an infallible assistance and direction from God so as they could neuer erre the least iote in their Doctrine as it is manifest of the Prophets and Apostles Nay in that beginning they had most of all need of that direction because then euery thing is more narrowly sifted and looked into and their authority and mission is compared with other learned men and their Doctrine For if they had byn taken in any error or contradiction all their credit and authority had byn lost and they had worthily byn reiected as false impostors and deceyuers of the people And so if Caluin and Luther had byn sent from God to repayre and reedify the Church it had byn specially necessary that straight in their begining their Doctrine had byn solide and without all contradiction least they might haue byn reiected and contemned as deceyuers and that worthily Againe I demaund of them when and at what tyme did they at length receyue that fulnes or plenitude of spirit that they could not erre any longer How should this be manifest to the world that men might know when to belieue them and when not to wit not in the beginning but yet in the later end For if this were not knowne they might presume and that worthily that they would erre as wel after as they had done before And finally it is euident that in all their life they were variable changing correcting or contradicting themselues almost in euery booke and worke they set forth as before we haue shewed by that little we haue alleaged and may do much more out of the many places produced by Cochlaeus Coccius and others out of their owne words and wrytings For the further they went comonly the more bitter they were and what they spake but mildly in the beginning that they eyther exaggerated or changed it into some contradiction in the end The VII Reason Taken from the fraudes and deceipts which the Sectaries commonly vse THAT Religion is alwayes to be had in suspition whose Authors mantayners do vse guile deceyts and lyes to vphold and establish the same For that true Religion doth not need any such helps but false Religion which when she is destitute of true and solid reasons she must necessarily place all her hope in lyes But now the Authors and mantayners of Lutheranisme and Caluinisme do vse many fraud● and lyes wherwith to propagate their religion Ergo they are worthily to be suspected That they vse deceyts it is manifest Heretiks impose false doctrine vpon Catholiks First for that they do falsely charge the Catholikes with many absurdityes wherby they may more easily impugne and defame their Religion as for example that the Papistes do worship images wood stocks stones euen as Ethnicks do adore their Idoles so as whatsoeuer they find in Scripture that is against the worshipping of Idols that they bring in against the veneration of Images In which case they deale not sincerely For they know wel inongh or may know if they will that in the Catholike Church Images of Saintes were neuer adored as Gods or with any worship that is due vnto God alone as Idols are adored by
authority of a Greek and Latin Copyes in the Dutch Bible translateth it thus Hoc significat Corpus meum This signifieth my body In the 2. Act. 27. where it is said Non derelinques animam meam in inferno Thou wilt not leaue my soule in hell Beza translateth it thus Non relinques cadauer meū in sepulchro Thou wiltnot leaue my carcasse in the graue changing the greek word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which signifieth animam into cadauer and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 orcum into sepulchrum And is not this thinke yow to corrupt Scriptures Caluin doth so expound almost all the places of Scripture wherby the Ancient Fathers dyd proue the Trinity of Persons and the Diuinity of the Sonne or the Holy Ghost that he doth eueruate all the force therof wherin he doth not alittle symbolize with the Iewes Sabellians Arians and Macedonians Againe the 53. whole Chapter of Isay which is manifestly meant of the passion death and satisfaction of Christ Caluin expoundeth it metaphorically of the griefes and molestations which the Iewish people by their sinnes did cause vnto Christ And what can be more violently or absurdly spoken or what can be more fitly accommodated to the Iewes perfidiousnesse Matth. 19. vers 17. where it is said Si vis ad vitam ingredi serua mandata If thou wilt enter into life keep the Comaundements Caluin will haue this speach to haue byn vttered by Christ in a scoffing manner or mockingly Allo ad Hebr. 5. vers 7. Exauditus est pro sua reuerentia He was heard for his reuerence Caluin expoundeth the greeke word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to signifie metum or dubitationem feare or doubtfullnes and saith that hereby is signified that Christ was stroken with so horrible a terrour of death that he was ready to fall into delperation of his eternall saluation I omit many other places Monsieur du Plessis a principall Caluinist in France in a little booke of his which he published Of the supper of our Lord hath corrupted more then an hundred testimonies of Fathers Doctors partly by cutting of and mangling their words and partly by adding therto of his own As also in this booke of his he produceth many arguments which by Schole doctors as the manner is are obiected against the truth and afterwards solued and answered by themselues as if they had byn set downe expressely by them for their owne doctrine and opinions Of which fraud he was these yeares past publiquely conuinced in presence of the late king of France and many of his nobility by the Bishop of Eureux now Cardinall as is well knowne to all France And the very same deceypt and craft do all their writers vse when they go about to proue their opinions and doctrine out of the Fathers Moreouer Their alleaging of obscure Authorityes this is another comon tricke amongst these men to wit that in citing the Fathers opinions they do alwayes omit their cleere perspicuous sense which may explicate and plainely declare their mind and insteed therof they produce commonly some obscurē and darke sentences of theirs were they do but by chance and as it were by the way touch the controuersy in hand Of which fraud very many testimonies are alledged not only against the Reall presence of Christs body in the Eucharist but against many other euident articles of Catholike faith also as for example against free wil against internal lustice against merit of good workes against the Authority of Councells c. And there is nothing so cleare and euident in our faith which by certaine obscure places of Scripture or Fathers may not seeme to be impugned nor is there any thing so absurd which by that meanes may not be defended For what is more absurd then to say that Christs body is euery where alwel as his Diuinity And yet do these men go about to confirme the same by many restimonies both of Scriptures and Fathers What is more absurd then to say that God is the Author of all synne Or that man hath not free will And yet do they alleadg many obscure places both out of Scriptures Fathers to establish those their fancies Y● they seeke for truth why then do they omit those places which be plaine and perspicuous and fly vnto such as be obscure and darke why do they not stand to the iudgment of the ancient Fathers and Doctors for explication therof who were long before our tyme but will only rely and rest vpon their owne sense and interpretation When as any obscure speaches of the Fathers do but seeme to f●uour them those they do diligently and readily produce and do indeauour to confir me their Doctrine therwith but when Catholikes to the contrary do alledg any thing out of the Fathers which is euidently against them then they make answere presently and say● that the Fathers were me●● and consequently subiect to error but they rely vpon the word of God which cannot err● Y● yow reply and say that the Fathers do also rely vpon the word God they answere that the Fathers haue not attayned to the vnderstanding of the Diuine word and therfore were deceyued Y● yow aske them how they know that the Fathers haue not attayned to the true sens● and vnderstanding of the word of God themselues haue they answer● that 〈◊〉 is euident out of the word of God But how is it euident seing there beso many and so diuers interpretations amongst them and that all the ancient Fathers haue interpreted otherwise them they and the Lutherans otherwise then the Caluinists and they againe otherwise then the Anabaptists The interpretation say they is euident to him that hath the spirit but to others not And thus do the Patrones of euery Sect answere and reduce their final iudgement of euery controuersy to a prin●● spirit Therfore the Caluinists say that all the ancient Fathers all the Doctours of the Church all generall Councells wanted the true-spirit of vnderstanding the Scriptures as also do the Lutherans and Anabaptists at this day want the same only themselues haue the true spirit and to them it is specially graunted from aboue and therefore to them ●n is spirit is manifest in so much that whatsoeuer they teach that is the pure Word of God The very sume thing say the Lutherans to wi● that the Councells Fathers Doctours of the Church did want this true spirit as also the Caluinists Anabaptists do only to them it is graunted and therefore say they it is euident and certaine that our doctrine is agrable to the Word of God And finally the Anabaptists do take away this spirit from all others and clayme it as proper only to themselues But how absurd thinke you voyd of reason are al these things How incredible is it that all the Catholike Doctours and Fathers of the Church should want the true spirit of vnderstanding Scriptures and that it should begiuen now to the Caluinists only or
by vertue and power of Gods decree And this againe was in tymes past an heresy of Simon (d) Vincēt Lirin Magus and of (e) Eusebius l. 5. c. 20. Florinus 3. Both teach that good works be not necessary to saluation and that fayth is ynough But this was an heresy of the same Simon (f) Iren. l. 1. c. 20● Magus and of (g) Aug. haer 54. the Eunomians about the yeare of Christ 360. 4. Both also teach that syns though neuer so many and great do not hurt him who hath fayth for that the malice of them is not imputed to him who beleeueth And this was also in tymes past an heresy of the (h) Aug. haer 54. Eunomians and of Basilides and Carpocrates as witnesseth Irenaeus l. 1. c. 23. 24. 5. Caluin denyeth the reall presence of Christs body in the Eucharist But this was againe an heresy of Berengarius about the yeare of our Lord 1051. Where it is to be noted first though some priuately before Berengarius doubted of that matter and moued the question about it yet none was so hardy as to professe it in publike as testifieth Hugh of Langres and Adelman of Bressia in their epistles to Berengarius and Paschasius in his booke of the words of the Institution of this Sacrament In so much as this was the constant and vniforme doctrine of the Church not opposed against by any arch-heretike vntill the tyme of Berengarius Secondly that Berengarius his opinion was whiles he yetlyued condemned in fiue Councells and that Berengarius himselfe thrise abiured his opinion and in conclusion died very penitent in the Catholike fayth He being dead the same heresy lay buried vp welneere two hundred yeares vntill the tyme of the Lollards who brought it to light againe as is gathered out of Trithemius in his Chronicle about the yeare 1315. After this againe VVicliffe held the same as appeareth by his third article After his death againe there was a deep silence of that matter for the space of an hundred yeares vntill Swinglius renewed it and Caluin and some others after him Whereby it euidently appeareth that this opinion was euer in the Church held for a manifest heresy therfore eyther the Church hath euer erred in a principall article of fayth and so consequently it was neuer Christs Church or that opinion which abrogateth and disclaymeth from the Reall presence of Christs body is an heresy indeed 6. Both take away all traditions and would haue all things to be comprehended in Scriptures alone The same was the heresy of the Arians as is recorded by S. Augustine also of Nestorius l. 1. contra Maxim c. 2. vlt. Dioscorus and Eutiches as is declared in the seauenth Synod Act. 1. 7. Both deny the Sacraments of Penance and of Confirmation The Nouatians taught the same opinion long ago as witnesse S. Cyprian l. 4. epist 2. l. 3. baer fabularum and S. Theodoret 8. Both teach that the Church consisteth of good alone and that the Church in former tymes visible perished notwithstanding for many ages that in this tyme it only remayneth in their congregations The very like was the heresy of the Donatists as testifieth S. Augustine l. de vnit Eccl. c. 12. 9. Both of them teach that prayer is not to be made for the dead that 〈◊〉 fast of Lent or any other stable fasts be not to be keep but euery one is then to fast when it shall to him seeme good The Aerians taught the very same in former ages if we beleeue Epiphamus haer 75. and S. Augustine l. dehaer c. 33. 10. Both deny the veneration of holy Reliques of Christs and Saints Images and call it Idolatry Vigilantius did no lesse many ages past as witnesseth S. Hierome The same did the Image breakers as testify Zoneras Cedrenus and Nicephorus touching them who made war against Images By these it is more then manifest that the chiefest opinions whereof Lutheranisme and Caluinisme consist be ancient heresyes long since condemned by the Church and that the same were alwayes held in the Church for heresyes The same may we easily exemplify and declare touching the rest Vide Bellar de notis Eccl. c. 9. Coccius de signis Eccl. l. 8. art 3. Wherehence it followeth that these Religions be nothing but the very sincke of heresyes of old longe ago put to silence and now in these latter dayes brought to light againe The XI Reason From the want of a Rule of Faith THESE new Religions haue no certaine rule of Faith to follow therfore they are not to be receyued For the principall heads of Religion must be determined certaine and withall immutable And that they haue not any certaine rule of beliefe whereby it may be resolued what is necessary to be beleeued and what not is euident First for that they admit neyther the traditions of the Church nor the authority of generall Councells nor the iudgment of the ancient Doctors of the Church and of those who flourished and liued before these our Controuersies Luther reiecteth all traditions in c. l. 4. c. 8. §. 6.7 8 in Antid ad 4. fes● Conc. Trident 1. ad Galatas as doth Caluin also l. 4. Instit and they teach that nothing is to be beleeued nothing to be receyued an holy Scripture Luther so contemneth Generall Councells which haue hitherto had most great authority in Gods Church for they be as it were the Parlaments of Princes In art 115 sequentib Peers in Christs Kingdome as he will haue the definitions therof subiect to the iudgment and censure of euery priuate person And he further sayth that it is a mad thing that the Councells will conclude what is to be beleeued And in the same place he teacheth that what is to be beleeued what not is to be left to the iudgment of euery spirituall man Caluin insinuateth no lesse l. 1. c. 7. § 1.2 4. when he sayth that it is not for the Church to iudge what books be Canonicall but that appertayneth to the inward spirit alone Finally as touching the Fathers Luther careth not for a thousand Augustines l. contra Regem Augiae a thousand Cyprians Caluin also in very many places contemneth them and affirmeth that they erred Wherefore none of all these is vnto them a rule of fayth But say they The Scripture it selfe is vnto vs a rule of fayth it cānot erre But it is an easy matter ●o shew that this rule serueth not the turne First because we by this rule cannot iudge of the Scripture it selfe and so the rule it selfe will remayne vnto vs vncertain which yet should haue the greatest certitude of all For by the Scripture it cannot come to be knowne for certaine that such a book is truly Scripture is not Apocripall nor composed by some deceiptfull person that this or that sentence is not peruerted northrust in Finally that nothing is added or taken