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A30542 Some of the principles of the Quakers (scornfully so called by men) vindicated and proved sound and true and according to the Scriptures in oposition to the false charges and lying reports given forth against the truth in two printed books put forth by one Philip Taverner, a supposed minister of the Gospel in Middlesex near Vxbridge ... / by Edw. Burrough. Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. 1658 (1658) Wing B6024; ESTC R28519 19,009 24

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