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A76304 John Plimpton's ten charges against the people, call'd Quakers, briefly answer'd. Beaven, Thomas, fl. 1720.; Plimpton, John. 1696 (1696) Wing B1640E; ESTC R172681 3,427 7

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JOHN PLIMPTON Ten Charges Against the People call'd QUAKERS BRIEFLY ANSWER'D HAving seen John Plimpton's Ten Charges against the People call'd Quakers and understanding he has assum'd to himself an Authority of appointing a Meeting without the Approbation or Consent of the said People they decline to meet him for these Reasons viz. It being the day of our County Quarterly Meeting which was appointed long before his both as to Time and Place we cannot attend him and was it not so I do not see we are obliged to it because he hath not perform'd the Conditions of William Penn's Offer viz. get the Heads of the Baptists to Imbarque in him which he formerly and also lately gave Expectation of for John Amory of Wrinton in Sommersetshire one of their Apostles or Messengers came with him to John Rutty's in Melkesham the 17th of the last Mo. and did then and there in the Presence of J. P. himself and divers Witnesses refuse to Sign his Charges against us and to imbarque in him either for the freewill Baptists in general or himself in particular and also said he knew no body that would and blamed him for an Indiscreet Conduct therein advising him to be quiet and since that William Earl did also refuse to sign them when put to him by Peter Knight Simon Shewring and John Rutty and therefore Now because I believe he will pervert our Writings behind our Backs in picking a Sentence here and another there without due Regard to the Context a very unfair Method out of Books whose Doctrines I question not are Coherent to what I have here asserted the Scope of them being duely observ'd which would be tedious for a Defendant in a Discourse viva voce but if he thinks mete to commit his Cavils to Print he may then expect to see an Answer to them Wherefore for the Truth 's sake and the sake of the Simple hearted who are lyable to be abused and imposed upon by his Fallacies I thought mete to Print his Charges with a Sincere and Candid Account of our Faith relating thereunto and to disperse the same at his Meeting that all may see how extreamly he hath abused us As to his Charges against me I intend to answer when he hath purged himself of several Charges as to Matter of Fact which I for merly drew up against him and some of his Brethren in a Letter to them dated the 5th of the 10th Month last past c. but they then refused to give me a Meeting upon it and mov'd for an Agreement which Agreement the said J. P. hath broke as did clearly appear by his own Words at my House the 24th of the 12th Month last past in the Hearing of John Yeo William Holloway and John Ruddle one of his Brethren and John Ruddle will speak the Truth he must confess that it did evidently appear so and then pray who is the Truce-breaker J. Plimpton or T. Beaven and this Method I think but regular he being first charged but if he now refuseth let him for ever be silent John Plimpton 's Charges A Charge drawn up against the Quakers both as to Doctrine and Fact the Fact is Forgery in part declar'd in a Charge formerly drawn up against them the other are now omitted the Doctrines are these c. AS to what he saith of Forgery William Penn hath answer'd him in a Leter the Copy of which I sent him and I do desire all Moderate Persons that would willingly have farther Satisfaction therein to read W. P.'s Book entituled A Counterfeit Christian detected and the Success of two Disputes at Barbican I. That Justification by the Righteousness which Christ fulfill'd for us in his own Person wholly without us they boldly affirm to be a Doctrine of Devils and that the Shedding of Christ's I. As to his First Charge we turn it back upon him as false for we believe Justification only and purely by the Righteousness of Jesus Christ th● Son of God who tasted Death for ever Man ●●ood was not the Meritorious Ca●se of our Justification c. Heb. 2.9 whose Doings and Sufferings only is the Meritorious cause of our Justification Isa 53.10 11 12. Rom. 5.18 Ti. 3.5 II. That the Doctrin of Christ's Satisfaction is Irreligious Irrational Ridiculous and Dangerous II. As to his Second Charge we believe that Jesus Christ by his Death and Sufferings hath made Attonement to the Father for all our Sins upon Terms of Faith and Repentance by his Grace III. That Christ Jesus is not a distinct Person without us and that he doth not consist of a Humane and Earthly Body of Flesh and Bone III. As to his Third Charge we believe in that Jesus Christ who was born of the Virgin-Mary and after his Resurrection Ascended into Heaven in Soul and Body Acts 1.9 10. There to appear in the Presence of God for us Heb. 9.24 IV. That the Soul is part of God's Being without Beginning and Infinite c. IV. His Fourth Charge is a gross Falshood for we believe that the Soul of Man is not a part of the being of God but a created Being Gen. 1.26 Ch. 2.7 Isa 57.16 V. That Christ redeems himself and that what he did in his own Person was truly the Meritorious and Deserving Cause of his own Justification and not ours V. As to his Fifth Charge 't is not true for we believe that Christ came to Redeem us Isa 59.20 and that what he did in his own Person was truly Meritorious to our Justification Isa 53.10 11. Rom. 5.18 VI. They prefer their own Words and Writings above and before the Scripture yea in Derision of them they say they have them under their Feet VI. As to his Sixth Charge 't is an abominable Slander for we believe the Holy Scriptures to be the most excellent Writings in the World and are Heartily Thankful to God for the Benefit of them knowing that whatsoever Things were Written aforetime were Written for our Learning that we through Patience and Comfort of the Scriptures might have Hope Rom. 15.4 and that they are given by Inspiration of God and are profitable for Doctrine for Reproof for Correction for instruction in Righteousness that the Man of God may be perfect throughly furnished unto all good Works 2 Ti. 3.16.17 VII They hold Justification by their own good Works yea that they are Meritorious and Deserving VII As to his Seventh Charge we believe Justification only by the Works of Christ Isa 53.10.11 Rom. 5.18 c. and deny that our own Works are the Meritorious cause of of any good thing Isa 64.6 Ti. 3.5 VIII They hold that is no Command to them that is a Command to another VIII As to his Eighth Charge we believe all the Commands of God to Holyness and Purity to do Justly to love Mercy and to walk humbly with him Mic. 6.8 that were given to the Lords People of Old and are incumbent upon them at this Day are commands to us IX That the Scriptures is no Rule of Faith and Practice unto Christians yea That they are False and Falsifyed both Transcripts and Translations Yea That none of them are right and that it is Dangerous for ignorant People to read them and that they make use of them to no other end then the Devils doth O Prophane and Ungodly Wretches IX As to his Ninth Charge we believe the Holy Scripture was given by Inspiration of God and written for our Learning c. As in the Sixth Article and Bless God for his Providence in preserving them so free from Corruption down to this Age of the World in which we Live And I do assert them the best outward Rule of Faith and Practice unto Christians and that 't is the Duty of all People that have this excellent Benefit to read and use them not as the Devil and Wicked Men do but to the Advantage of their own Souls as the Lord knoweth we desire to do X. That they deny the true Christ of God are therefore no Christians X. As to his Tenth Charge we beleive in the true Christ of God who was in the Beginning with God and was God by whom all things was made John 1.1 2 3. who in the fullness of time took not on Him the Nature of Angels but the Seed of Abraham and was made Man John 1.14 Gallat 4.4 Heb. 2.16 and Suffered under Pontius Pilate Matth. 27.26 And Rose again the Third Day Matth. 28.6 And Ascended into Heaven as aforesaid Acts 1.9 10. And is the one Mediator between God and Men the Man Christ Jesus 1 Tym. 2.5 These things I do boldly affirm are the Quakers Opinions and I do charge them upon them as Heretical and Damnable and therefore forasmuch as the Baptists do own me in my Proceedings against them I do expect that W. Penn be as good as his Word to give me a Meeting if not I I shall expose him according to his just Demerits and we shall look upon the Quakers as Persons not only Guilty of but persisting on in the Notorious Wickedness as can be expressed John Plimpton These things I do firmly believe and from Eight or Nine Years Conversation with the People call'd Quakers and their Books do know that they also Believe and therefore I assert them against the Calumnies and Perversions of our Envious Adversaries who to abuse us pretend to know our Faith better then we our Selves Thomas Beaven Melkesham the 19th of the 7th Month. POSTSCRIPT THE Foregoing Charges of JOHN PLIMPTON against the People call'd QVAKERS are the same that many of our inveterate Adversaries among the Baptists and others have falsly objected against us formerly and have been fully Answer'd long since as appears by many of our Books extant in Answer to T. Hicks J. Faldo c. THE END Bristol Printed by Will. Bonny for the Author 1696.