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A65534 A brief and modest reply to Mr. Penn's tedious, scurrilous and unchristian defence against the Bishop of Cork Wettenhall, Edward, 1636-1713. 1699 (1699) Wing W1489; ESTC R38532 21,311 30

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A BRIEF and MODEST REPLY To Mr. Penn's Tedious Scurrilous and Unchristian DEFENCE AGAINST THE BISHOP OF CORK Father Forgive Them Luke XXIII DUBLIN Printed by Joseph Ray and are to be sold at his Shop in Skinner-Row over against the Tholsel 1699. A Brief Modest REPLY to Mr. PENN's Tedious Unchristian Defence against the Bishop of CORK THE Bishop of Cork being to Vindicute the Truth and Himself from many foul Imputations and virulent Invectives which Mr. Penn in his defence of a Paper of his own styled Gospel Truths has been pleased to bestow upon both in the first place thanks Mr. Penn for having Printed both his own Paper and the Bishops Testimony against it at length before his Book For the Bishop believes that all sober and reasonable Christians who shall read those two over and consider them will easily acquit the Bishop from the first of Mr. Penn's Imputations in his Preface that he is a man of a mind different from those who would have Strife amongst Christians abated and who are against Quarrels and for the discouraging Controversies in that holy and peaceable thing Religion The Bishop says a peaceable Testimony against the sleight of Men touching whom it is questionable whether they be Christians or not and against their cunning Craftiness who lye in wait to deceive is no moving Strife or raising Quarrels amongst Christians Mr. Penn adds he gave his Paper to the Bishop in a private way at a friendly Visit upon his own desire This is what the Bishop called Writing in such a way that it is hard to know what is meant If Mr. Penn mean that either he gave the Paper to the Bishop upon the Bishop's desire or made that Visit upon the Bishop's desire in both senses the saying is utterly false for both the Visit and the Paper were a surprise and altogether unexpected by the Bishop But to confess freely all the truth there can be in this Colour if it should be so that Mr. Penn has amongst the other spiritual gifts he pretends to that of discerning Spirits and knew that the Bp. was as desirous to see the * The Bp. was inform'd that Mr. P. discoursing of Penal-Laws c. did while he was lately in Cork say He had a Kingdom of his own which was understood of Pensilvania King of Pensilvania as he would be the Pope or the Great Turk or any other Great Man of Sin supposing them in the Country in this sense the Bp. acknowledges the saying true He had a little Curiosity which may pass for a desire to see Mr. Penn. Then as to the Privacy of the Matter Mr. Penn well knows he brought two Witnesses with him the one a good Protestant the other a Quaker And his giving the Bp. that Paper before them both gave occasion to the Bp. to suspect there was some design in it Had the Bp. received it privately indeed that is without Witness of both sides Mr. Penn perhaps had never heard more of it And thus as to Mr. Penn's Preface The First charge in his Book against the Bp. is that he did not prove such a Reader as he profest himself Mr. P. would have had him such a Reader that had rather they should be in the right than in the wrong The Bp. never profest himself such for either here also the Bp. understands not what Mr. P. means or else Mr. P. desires a strange partial Reader who should have more inclination and affection to the Quakers that is his Adversaries opinion than to his own Or who would rather be in an Error himself than that his Adversaries should be in any Such unheard of partiality as this the Bp. admires Mr. P. should require and confesses himself void of But a very impartial Reader he was which he took to have been Mr. P s meaning And without prejudice both did he does and will own the truth where-ever he finds it And as to what Mr. P. so often objects that the Bp. has Writ against him without any Provocation it is readily acknowledged The Bp. neither had nor has any personal private Quarrel with Mr. P. All he impleads him of is his Doctrine The Bp. can return Mr. Ps. own words to him p. 23. he has a respect for him and desires not to be upon these terms with him any longer than he thinks fit to make it necessary by spreading and defending such Principles which tend to the subverting Christianity at which no Bishop ought to connive To omit things less material p. 24. he would insinuate the Bp. guilty of insincerity in saying It was the first time he ever heard the Quakers own the necessity of Christ as a Propitiation in order to Remission of Sins and justifying them as Sinners from guilt And tells the Bp. where possibly he might have read it Answ Possibly the Bp. may have read more than either then he did or now does actually remember He never had so much as many of the Quakers Books much less has he them in his Memory but one he has now before him Intitled The Second Part of the serious Apology for the Principles and Practices of the People called Quakers By WILLIAM PENN Printed 1671. In which p. 148. are these words This namely Justification by the Righteousness which Christ hath fulfilled in his own Person for us in the words before We deny and boldly affirm it to be the Doctrine of Devils and an Arm of the Sea of Corruption which does now deluge the whole World This the Bp. does not understand to be owning Justification by Christ He thefore now was glad to find Mr. P. more Orthodox in 1698 than he was in 1671. But says W. P. If the Bp. commends their believing in Christ as a Propitiation for Sin he ought not to have censured them as short in any Fundamental Article of Christian Religion for that all the rest follow from or are comprehended in this p. 25 26. Truly he ought For 1. He does not find the Quakers to be so good at believing or drawing due consequences or deducing and discovering all the particulars which are comprehended in generals 2. It is not true that all the Fundamentals of Christian Religion follow from or are comprehended in this Doctrine Christ is our Propitiation Some of them particularly mentioned by Mr. P. do not thence follow as that there is a Holy Ghost that he convinces Men of Sin c. Nay not that p. 34. That Christ is Ascended for he might have been a Propitiation and Sacrifice as were those under the Law and yet never have ascended no nor rose again 3. To tell Mr. P. thus much as to his Paper once for all Implication of Faith is not a Profession of Faith Remote consequences not mentioned which yet 't is possible may be drawn must not be taken for a Confession of Faith For he that deduces such consequences is the person that truly makes them And in such case the Quakers confession of Faith