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A32898	An old apostate justly exposed his treachery to the Holy God, his truth and people manifested, his great wickedness and uncleanness (which, by false covers, he has endeavoured to hide) laid open to the shame of him, and all his abettors : in a short answer, or some brief remarks, upon a very scandalous book lately published, stiled, The spirit of Quakerism, and the danger of their divine revelation laid open, subscribed, Henry Winder : also the nameless publisher therof, as justly reprehended for his enmity and great malice, in abusing an innocent people, by heaps of most gross lies, slanders, base insinuations and inferences, frothy and scurrilous scoffs and taunts, so void of Christianity, that probably no man, with a name, would undertake / by Thomas Camm.	Camm, Thomas, 1641-1707.	1698 (1698)	Wing C396; ESTC R21826	31,372	63

AN Old APOSTATE Justly Exposed His Treachery to the Holy God his Truth and People MANIFESTED His great Wickedness and Uncleanness which by False Covers he has Endeavoured to hide laid open to the Shame of him and all his Abettors In a short Answer or some Brief Remarks upon a very Scandalous Book lately Published Stiled The Spirit of Quakerism and the Danger of their Divine Revelation laid open Subscribed Henry Winder ALSO The Nameless Publisher thereof as justly Reprehended for his Enmity and great Malice in Abusing an Innocent People by heaps of most Gross Lies Slanders Base Insinuations and Inferences Frothy and Scurrilous Scoffs and Taunts so void of Christianity that probably no Man with a Name would Undertake By THOMAS CAMM London Printed and Sold by T. Sowle next Door to the Meeting-house in White-Hart-Court in Gracious-street and at the Bible in Leaden-hall-street near the Market 1698. The Dog is turned to his own vomit again and the Sow that was washed to her wallowing in the Mire 2. Pet. 2.22 They went out from us but they were not of us c. John 2.19 Raging Waves of the Sea foaming out their own Shame c. Jude 13. Behold he Travelleth with Iniquity and hath conceived Mischief and brought forth Falshood he made a Pit and digged it and is fallen into the Ditch which he made his Mischief shall return upon his own Head and his Violent Dealing shall come down upon his own Pate Psal 7.14 15 16. THE PREFACE TO THE Impartial Reader IF thou hast Seen or Read a Book lately Published Stiled The Spirit of Quakerism and the Danger of their Divine Revelation laid open Subscribed Hen. Winder then be pleased to suspend giving Judgment upon the Matter thereof until thou hast Read and duly Considered the Contents of what follows being a short Answer or some brief Remarks upon the most material Passages in that Book Levelled against the Truth and those People commonly called Quakers Remember what the Wise Man saith viz. He that is first in his own Cause seemeth Just but his Neighbour cometh and searcheth him If thou judge that I have been close upon the Author and have exposed him to publick view consider that he has been the occasion And what is written in Holy Scripture must be fulfilled viz. The Wickedness of the Wicked must return upon his own Head and he that hides his Sins cannot Prosper I confess I was Astonished to see the Subscriber before named grown so Impudent Hard since I had some small knowledge of him many Years past while he seemed to be of us and before he fell into such gross Vncleanness And have seen yea having by me several of his Confessions and Acknowledgments not only of his great Sins and Transgressions but also to the Truth and Way thereof and that the Quakers are the People that walk therein I say I was Astonished to see the Man now grown so Seared as to give himself the Lie and appear in Print against the Truth and Innocent People thereof with that Inconsiderateness and Fury which manifests him to be one of them Evil Men who grows worse and worse and to have entertained again that Evil Spirit that was in some measure once cast out and with him seven times worse which makes his latter end much worse than his beginning I shall not take notice of all his long Narrative but such as chiefly Reflects upon the Truth and People of God called Quakers My Intent and Aim being to Vndeceive or Inform them who have believed his False Reports and Deceitful Slanderous Insinuations against the Truth and Principle thereof which we Profess As also to Detect his false Pretences in his going from Truth and Vs and deserting that Profession that once he made thereof with us by demonstrating the True Cause thereof neither shall I Justifie the Three Women in any thing wherein they missed the Line of Truth which to his Conscience is known we never owned them in though he would now being filled with Enmity Falsly Insinuate we did in order to Prejudice the Minds of People against that Way of Truth from which he is now fallen through Sin and Wickedness And for a Cover thereto as also to gratifie such amongst them with whom he is now joyned as Lusts to be Envious and whose Fingers Itches to be at their old Work of Persecution being angry at the Liberty we now through God's Great Mercy enjoy as to our Religious Duties from the present Government for which we desire ever to be Thankful in all Grateful Acknowledgments How aptly what follows doth answer to what is before proposed I leave to thee Impartial Reader to Judge Recommending thee to the Guidance of the Vnerring Spirit that gives a good Vnderstanding and Leads into all Truth And that thou and all Men might come under the Guidance and Government thereof is the Earnest Desire of him who wisheth Good to all Men. Thomas Camm AN Old Apostate Justly Exposed c. Hen. Winder WILL not thy own Back-sliding Correct thee and is it not a Dreadful Thing that thou should so far harden thy Heart against God and the Convictions of his Spirit in thy own Conscience for thy great and manifold Sins so as to grow as Evil Men always do worse and worse making Shipwrack of Faith and a Good Conscience being Seared as with an Hot Iron to the fulfilling the Testimony of Holy Scripture upon thee viz. Because Judgment from God has not been speedily Executed thy heart has been more set to do Evil Thy Book if it be thine as by thee Subscribed and as I hear in part owned to be so I have seen read and considered of and find thy Enmity great and thy said Book chiefly bent against the Truth and People called Quakers and to Expose an Innocent People to the Fury and Scorn of Malicious Men such as the nameless Publisher thereof For if thou had bent thy self only against those thou names as Injurers of thee since they missed in their Management in that they Charge thee with whether all true or not we leave to him who knows all things and is the Searcher of all Hearts yet I should not have concerned my self on this wise but finding that through their Sides thou endeavourest to strike at Truth against which thou cannot prevail and the Principle thereof born Testimony unto by those Innocent People called Quakers I proceed to take notice of thy Book as followeth First thy Title is The Spirit of Quakerism An old Nickname more beseeming one that had never born the name of a Quaker than thee that once did and to what follows viz. The danger of their Divine Revelation c. Divine Revelation the Quakers own it 's Scripture Doctrine without it none can come to the True and Saving Knowledge of the Only True God and his Son Jesus Christ whom he hath sent whom to know is Life Eternal For it 's the Testimony of Holy Scripture That no Man knows the Father

but the Son and he to whom the Son Reveals him And this Revelation is the Divine and the very same Divine Revelation is what the Quakers own and are not Ashamed of and is great wickedness in thee to count it Dangerous or inconsistent with Scripture-Testimony Thou calls thy Book A Faithful Narrative of their meaning the Quakers Malicious Persecution of H. W. and his Wife as Murtherers at the publick Assize at Carlisle Answ The Narrative is neither Faithful nor True but greatly Malicious as it is given in so general Terms against the Quakers and in part Aggravated as to the three Women mentioned by name as may more fully appear in what follows Thou begins thy Preface thus viz. Being desired by Persons of Worth and Eminency to give a Publick Account c. At last I assented say'st thou to their Importunities c. Answ Persons of either Worth or Eminency by what follows I doubt not will have good cause to detest thy Abominable Wickedness and conclude thou hast justly Exposed thy self and all thy publick Abettors to great and publick Infamy Thou adds The wrong they have done me was a sufficient Incentive to have bent all my Strength to have made all their Villainy as Notorious as possible nevertheless they see and the World sees how slow I have been to do it Then gives 1st 2d and 3d. Reasons therefore Answ The Quakers had done thee no wrong and it 's yet Questionable whether the three Women though wrong in their management against him and might miss in some Circumstances have wronged him in the main it 's known to God and his own Conscience to whom I leave the Judgment thereof desiring the Readers Patience and to suspend his Judging thereof until he has Read and Seriously Considered what the said H. W. and Wife have given under their hands with what else is herein after Inserted relating thereto and the World has seen and under his hand we have an Account of what he has done to the said three Women and their Husbands and also may now see what he has done to the Quakers and if the Malice that may yet rest in his or the Hearts of his Abettors can do more let them do it quickly His Reasons pretended for his Slowness are Idle Impertinent and Fallacious For will not Wise Men judge it more seasonable to Detect Persons for wrong when Living and Capable either of Defence or making Satisfaction neither of which the Dead can do and his now Trampling upon their Graves is no good sign of Innocency but I shall only ask him if there was not some other Reasons 1st Was his Heart before now grown hard enough for such a work And 2dly Whether he presumed that length of time had not buried the Memory of his Wickedness and made a prey of what he had written and said relating to the Demonstration thereof 3dly Whether he was not too far prevailed upon by some of those People amongst whom he now walks who are apt enough I say some Hot Heads amongst them I make that distinction because I know there are Sober-minded amongst them and as I hear are not pleased with his Book and perhaps will find cause to be more displeased to catch at any thing tho' never so Dirty if they can but throw it at the Despised People called Quakers And doth not his saying At last I assented to their Importunities and that kind of Sorrowful or Lamenting Saying of his Wife viz. Ah we were put upon it or else we had never done it greatly demonstrate that they have now of late been too far prevailed upon and persuaded to what they have done to the gratifying of a Wrathful Spirit in which work they will never be Blessed but will undoubtedly meet with Shame I shall take notice of some Passages of what I find given as his second Reason for his Slowness yet not because it is either Reasonable or Pertinent to that matter viz. But afterward thought it a dignity far surpassing my deserts that God should chuse me his Instrument to Fight this Battel c. And when I consider saith he what Persons our Saviour chose for his Great Apostles c. Answ O Impudent Man would he be taken for God's chosen Instrument no sure he must be a cleaner Man first and our Blessed Saviour Holy Jesus chose neither Whoremongers not Adulterers for his Great Apostles no their Greatness stood in Holiness and Whoremongers and Adulterers have no place in the Kingdom of Christ no the God that chose him unclean Man is the God of the World who has such Instruments to Battel with the Lamb and his followers and the dignity that he gets by this his Work will appear by what follows I now come to his Narrative passing by at present what the Publisher adds to the Preface Intending in its proper season to take notice of what the Nameless Publisher adds there and elsewhere In Page the 2d H. W. on behalf of Himself and Wife saith But being Conscious of our perfect Innocency we made our appeal to the Searcher of Hearts c. Again in Page the 3d. We know no guilt you are false Prophetesses c. In Page the 11th A Burthen Intolerable had I not been supported by a God of Truth and a clear Conscience In Answer to all which I offer what follows taken out of their own Papers viz. H. W. and Wife and owned very late so to be by them or the one of them before several Witnesses whose Names are after Inserted which Papers are Dated from the Year 1674. about the time that our Friends had denied them for their Scandalous Wickedness And Wrath and Judgment from the Lord being upon them therefore they Writ and gave under their Hands two Papers as followeth Oh! Dearly Beloved and Chosen of God ye are the Children of the most High God and Church of whom Christ is Head Hear us we pray you and we shall discover our Hearts to you First we Acknowledge and Confess that we have Sinned and Transgressed against the Lord God and against his People who have born grievous Burthens for us we must needs confess before you But this know Dear Friends that the Enemy wrought in a Mistery in us to the persuading of us that we might do such things and yet Live then through the weakness of the Flesh Sin took Occasion and overcame us then Sin being committed it brought forth Death to the Innocent Life which we once Lived in then the Lord hid his Presence from us which we once Injoyed and left us to our selves then we were as Sheep without a Shepherd wandering upon the Barren Mountains where there was no Food for the Soul so let us be a Warning to all Backsliders and those that turn from the Grace of God into any Unrighteousness For there will be a losing of the Presence of the Lord and of the Incomes of his Love unto the Soul which is the greatest Loss of all Losses c.

For when Lust was conceived in us it brought forth Sin and when Sin was finished it brought forth Death c. The Lord made known himself unto us both by his Inward Working in us and by his Messenger unto us Margaret Bradley who is a Faithful Servant of God and a Lover of our Souls who hath Travelled in pain for us c. The Lord Reward her for her Faithfulness between the Lord and us as no doubt but he hath Rewarded her already Ah! you Beloved of us we do this Acknowledge and Confess that we have been such a grievous Burthen and Shame unto you in giving so great Occasion to the Enemy c. Besides you were even pricked to the Heart for us Now we are unworthy and also ashamed to come into your Congregations or into the Assembly of Friends those which we have so grievously Sinned against c. We intreat you if you can find so much Favour and Love in your Hearts towards us as to receive us into your Congregation if it be but into the Entry of your Houses where you meet together to wait upon God c. This out of one of their said Papers now hear also what follows taken out of the Second beginning thus viz. Be it known unto all People unto whom these Presents shall be read That I H. Winder and Ann my Wife do acknowledge and confess before the Living God and unto all People That we have Sinned and done that which we ought not to have done in suffering the Temptations of Sin in the Flesh to overcome us and lead us out of the strait and narrow Way which leads to Life c. So this know all People that it was not because the Quakers Judgment or Doctrine or way of Worship is False that it caused us to fall from them But our fall was of our selves and their Judgment their Doctrine their way of Worship and Faith is Acceptable with the Lord we do Faithfully Believe it and also Acknowledge it c. He hath called us to Repentance For he would not the Death of a Sinner but rather that he should Repent and Live c. I was afraid and hid my self five days but my Covering was too narrow but the Word of the Lord came to me again saying Hide not thy self nor be not Rebellious any longer For I the Lord fill Heaven and Earth with my Presence therefore confess thy Sins and Repent and forsake them c. Then I fell down at the Word of the Lord Trembling Fasting and Praying Weeping and Mourning before the Lord three days c. Let all People take Warning by me to call to Remembrance their former Sins and Transgressions which they have committed before the Lord God for he fills Heaven and Earth with his Presence and nothing can be hid from him c. Let the Wicked forsake his Ways and the Unrighteous his Thoughts and let us turn unto the Lord with penitent Hearts confessing the Evil of our Doings c. Thus far out of the said two Papers faithfully taken out which if any shall question I hereby profer such if they please to read them at large And let it be noted Reader that upon the 15th of the 1st Month commonly called March last past those two Papers out of which I have taken what is above-written was then intended to have been shewed to both H. W and his Wife but he not being met with the said Ann his Wife did then own them to be their own Papers and that she Writ them with her own Hands And did also then own the Preface Narrative and Postscript of that Book called The Spirit of Quakerism c. to be her Husband 's And being further queried why they should put forth such a Wicked Book she answered Ah! we were put upon it by several else we had never done it but would not tell who they were though then desired only confessed that Mr. Gillpin wrote down all things thereof as they were Transacted And the said Ann H. W's Wife querying then of our Friends whose Names are after Subscribed as Witnesses whether we intended to answer their said Book our Friends answering Yea it would be Answered to which she replyed And then will you lay us open to the World c. Witnesses hereof William Grenhope William Greenhow John Bowstead Richard Atkinson I shall now add what is so Notoriously known in the face of the Neighbourhood that though the said H. W. be greatly hardned yet I presume he cannot have a face to deny relating to their great uncleanness for which they were denyed of us c. First the said H. W. had her that is now his Wife so great with Child in his first Wife's dayes that there was but about six Weeks betwixt the Death of his first Wife and the Birth of that Child Now Reader be pleased to compare what is before taken out of their own Papers and what is added as a demonstration of their great Wickedness and Uncleanness that their Papers have relation to and for which they were denyed of our Friends with what I have in short before cited out of their own Book viz. that God should choose him viz. H. W. to be his Instrument to Fight this Battle c. And when I consider what Persons our Saviour chose for his great Apostles c. But being Conscious of our perfect Innocency we made our Appeal to the Searcher of all Hearts c. Again we know no Guilt c. Again a Burthen Intolerable had I not been Supported by a God of Truth and a clear Conscience c. And then Reader after such comparing the One with the Other and due Consideration thereof I shall leave it to thee if thou be such an one as hath the Fear of God before thee to judge whether this our Adversary H. W. is like an Instrument chosen of the Pure Holy God or in any respect like the Apostles of Holy Jesus fit to be dignified by appearing on God's behalf Can be Conscious of perfect Innocency or can as such make his appeal to the Searcher of all Hearts can know no guilt Can be supported by a God of Truth and a clear Conscience or no And whether it be not great Impiety and Blasphemous in him so to say considering his Circumstances as before And whether it doth not bespeak and declare his Conscience to be Seared as with an Hot Iron or no Ah surely the Righteous God will Rebuke him for his Abominable Uncleanness and Impiety Hypocrisie and make him and all his Abettors Examples in his Wrath If they Repent not Further let the Reader observe that the said H. W. in the first Page of his Narrative saith That it was in the Year 1673. and Harvest time when Margaret Bradley one of the three Women he calls his Accusers came with a Message to him and after the Relation of her then Message to him he also relates his Answer viz. ' The Lord Rebuke thee thou

the said H. W. So that the time that can in any respect be supposed for such Solicitations is reduced within the Compass of about Nine Days And that time under strong suspicion of her Sisters being with Child as aforesaid which in reason may be admitted as sufficient to prevent such Solicitation if there had been inclination thereto which I believe not Much more would the certain knowledge of her Sisters being with Child to the Man that basely saith she several times expressed her great Affection and Desire to have him c. For no doubt but the discovery of that Uncleanness and that the said H. W. had so basely abused her Sister would administer occasion of being highly offended at him all Circumstances considered he having a Wife of his own and an honest one too for ought that ever I heard though she had the hard hap of having a very dishonest Husband if not worse Such an one as that she that should express her Affection and Desire as aforesaid considering all his Circumstances so close upon the death of his Wife her death so sudden and surprising her Sister then big with Child by him must needs be concluded Mad or greatly Infatuated and bereaved of common Sense and Reason Wherefore pray consider what sort of Man this H. W. is this very noted Passage highly detects him to be very base enough to give the Reader a clearer sight of him and his whole Book Wherefore pray further consider what kind of Readers must his Book have that believes him who so frequently detects himself of great Falshood I know none that believes him except his nameless as well as shameless Publisher who is like one of them who said Report and we will report it yet may question whether he dare so far express himself as to give us his Name with his belief of the Truth of H. W's Book which he has published especially now when H. W. and his Book is exposed and his false Covers plucked off and he proving a very unclean Man as also very false and malicious And I would hope that such as have abetted him and put him upon Printing such false malicious slanderous as well as sensless Stuff will now repent thereof with respect to their Repute and Credit and to prevent what will be the Reward of all that are accessory to such an evil Work viz. Shame and Confusion of Face And may it not be expected that he whom H. W. calls Excellent Learned and Pious Mr. Gilpin Minister then of their Church and who the now Wife of H. W. confessed the 15th of the first Month now last past 1696 7 before the four Friends before named did write down all Matters relating to H. W's Narrative as they were transacted will now see that he has been too officious on the behalf of such a Man and will ingenuously confess that he was greatly mistaken or worse when on his behalf he gave that Testimony related in Page 12 of the said Narrative That he H. W. was always accounted a very faithful and just Man and that he had for a long time experienced him to be so Oh sad that a Man of his Figure and Station should so mistake to speak modestly to give Testimony and that as he saith upon long Experience that he viz. H. W. had always been accounted a very faithful and just Man when notoriously known as before related to be both very unfaithful and unjust at least to his Wife But Prejudice and Enmity has made many otherways wise greatly to befool themselves Neither will J. N. whom he calls Deacon of their Church get Repute either to himself or Church in Abetting or Testifying on behalf of H. W. if it be such as he who is called Mr. Gilpin has Testified Some few Passages more of the said Book of H. W's I shall take notice of and so draw to a Conclusion with him having exceeded what I intended but that I find so much Dirt to remove off the Innocent and cast back whence it came and is worthy to stick The first is what I find related about the Search made on Sparkehead-Moore in Page 9. Thus They were slow and had no great Courage to begin the Search but my Wife spurred them on and bid 'em chear up and take Courage c. Thus she upbraided their Faintness and Folly c. Answ She being examined about this Matter by the four Friends before-named the same 15th of the First Month before-mentioned 1697 She viz. H. W's Wife answered Yes at the first I did put them on but I confess my Spirit failed and I did cry out It seems from this Confession that she had neither Innocency nor Confidence enough to support her but her Spirit fell and she cried out The Reason whereof I leave to God and her own Conscience in hope that her Heart is not yet grown so hard as her Husband 's since she confesseth to some Truth The next is what I find in Page 16. viz. Hitherto the Lord of his infinite free Mercy prel●●g● my days with my dear and faithful Wife and Children whom he hath increased preserved and abundantly blessed My whole Family he hath spared as a Father spares his own Son that serves him And this I declare c. Answ Let such as name the Holy Name of the Holy God depart from Iniquity for he will not be holden guiltless that taketh his Name in vain though he long spare and his long-suffering be very great yet in the end Tribulation and Anguish will be the Portion of the Wicked Wherefore let H. W. hear and fear and not bless himself in that he has been spared to this Day nor boast of his Posterity for the Wicked has been seen ere now to spread forth Branches like the green Bay Tree and all things to go well with him yet stands in a slippery place suddenly goes down into the Pit and Bastard's Slips has not long nor deep Rooting neither can Whoremongers Adulterers or Lyers have any part or place in the Kingdom of Heaven but in Tophet prepared of old for the Devil and his Angels In Page 21 he saith I fell into a Temptation wherein I was so cast down that I despaired to receive Comfort any way but in the Ordinances appointed c. Answ It 's evident he has not fallen into one only but many Temptations and gross Evils which all his outward Ordinances cannot redeem him out of for it 's the Blood of Jesus that cleanseth from Sin in which Remission comes to be known in the Work of Regeneration and Renewings of the Holy Spirit where there 's unfeigned Repentance and a walking in the Light Which this Man reviles and slights and counts deceivable and would falsly insinuate to be the ground of his Erring from the way of Truth which bespeaks him in a dangerous Condition blaspheming against that Light in which all must walk who comes to be cleansed from all Sin for if we walk in the Light

But that all Men as well as those called Quakers are as Men liable to err if they forsake the Conduct of that Eternal Uunchangeable Uunerring Spirit of Truth which leads into all Truth and is able to preserve out of all Error which these Men our Opposers slights and reviles 3. Cursed pretence to Divine Inspiration the strongest Hold of the Devil Answ Let him keep his cursed Pretence to himself Divine Inspiration we experience the Inspiration of the Almighty with the Effects thereof blessed be God according to Scripture To call which the strongest Hold of the Devil is not only a Lye but Blasphemy 4. Who knew all this Story 23 Years ago and should have disclaimed the Actors but did not c. Answ All the Story of H. W's as in his Book was never known before written nor could be because many things therein inserted were not true being Stuff added to amuse the Reader and abuse the Quakers It 's evident before that what was to be disclaimed was then done and in Testimony thereof tho' it discover his Enmity and Contradictions he has made some Acknowledgment in Page 24. viz. Some Friends who at the first Assizes persuaded the Women to do him Right by Confessing c. Next I shall repeat a whole heap of Lyes and Slanders which as he says he takes out of what he calls A further Essay by a learned peaceable compassionate Friend of ours wherein he saith He proves c. But I say Is not yet proved nor can be 5. From their many Impertinences and Nonsence in their Books which cannot without Blasphemy be attributed to the Holy Spirit 6. From the many flat Contradictions of one inspired Pretender unto another especially their Women 7. Their scurrilous Railing at their best Opposers 8. Their apparent Contradictions to plain Scripture 9. Miserable Perversions and gross Misinterpretations of Scripture 10. Their Noval Opinions not heard of before in the Church of Christ 11. The allowed Novelty of their Sect having no pretence to Succession 12. Their many Doctrines calculated to serve Popery instanced in Nine Heads of Doctrine wherein they agree with Papists against Scripture 13. Notorious Possessions and Witchcrafts 14. Many gross Blasphemies uttered by those so Inspired 15. VVallowing in gross unnatural Sins 16. VVild Attempts of long Fasting and Miracles 17. Contradiction to all other good Christians All which before-said I take out of less than two Leaves of the Preface to the Book aforesaid enough if there were no more for this nameless Publisher and him he calls our Learned Peaceable Compassionate Friend turning them all back as gross Lyes and impudent Slanders For which he that sits in Heaven will rebuke them And tho' the Publisher have Rabshacah like opened his Mouth wide against the Lord and his innocent People yet I shall in the Name and on Behalf of that People tell him his evil Design will be frustrated and his Eyes grow dim and Heart fail before he can ever prove what he hath wrongfully charged And I shall farther Answer them in the Words of Israel's God through his Servant Isaiah Chap. 37. Ver. 22 23. viz. This is the word which the Lord hath spoken concerning him The Virgin the Daughter of Zion hath despised thee and laughed thee to scorn the Daughter of Jerusalem hath shaken her head against thee Whom hast thou reproached and blasphemed And against whom hast thou exalted thy Voice and lifted up thine Eyes on high Even against the Holy One of Israel 18. In Page 23. A strange Story this is Reader indeed and beyond the Power even of Quakers Impudency to deny since it was so long transacting so many Friends concerned in it c. Answ I say it is the Publisher's Impudency to cast upon the Quakers and a great Lye to say so many Friends were concerned it 19. In Page 28. What think of you these dear Sisters true Quakers they were and owned as such to the last Answ I say It 's not only a filthy Taunt but a shameful Lye 20. In Page 28. How many Christ's and Saviours will this People at length produce 21. In the same Page mentioning the Terms and Way of his meaning Christ's saving viz. They must value his Blood and submit to the Rule of his Word But the Quakers saith he like not such Terms therefore will have a Second meaning Christ or a Saviour 22. In same Page he saith Now shall we marvel that Quakers offer us a new Creed or Christianity and scorn our old Bible 23. Again in the same Page When their Spirit says we must have a Second Saviour a Carnal One too and who is within none but a single VVoman 24. Again in the same Page he saith VVas a fit Brother for their Christ within c. 25. In the same 28th Page he saith Is this all No we have more Christs among them c. See now Reader what heaps of Lyes this obscure railing Man belcheth forth to his shame And tho' he hide himself from Men by concealing his Name the Righteous God will find him out to Reward him according to his Works I deny them all as impudent Lyes But to proceed 26. In Page 32 he saith Then your Spirit Fancy or Flatus is your Supreme Rule c. Answ I say A horrid Lye and Slander That Spirit which leads into all Truth is that which we have always owned to be our Supreme Rule which if he had been led by would not have uttered so many Lyes and Slanders which manifests him to be of his Father the Devil who was a Lyer from the beginning 27. In Page 34 he faith So G. F. had the Humility to receive Adoration and VVorship c. Which I say is also another of his gross Lyes upon the Dead 28. In Page 35 he faith VVill G. F. deny it VVho declared himself equal with God and received VVorship c. I say It 's also another impudent Lye cast upon the Dead Let him prove what he charges 29. Again in same Page he saith As their meaning the Quakers Infallibility consists with Lyes and Self-Contradiction so can their Perfection stand with most abominable VVickedness c. Answ I say His Slander herein is abominable The Infallibility of the Eternal Spirit of Truth admits of no Lye nor Contradiction neither can abominable Wickedness stand with the Perfection that is the Product or Work of the Holy Ghost or Spirit in all true Believers in the Lord Jesus Christ And we cannot but bear Testimony against abominable Wickedness and all such as wallow therein as H. W. and other Apostates which makes them and this their obscure Publisher so grievous Angry to load us with so many Calumnies 30. In Page 37 he saith That Jesus descibed in Scripture was to seal up Vision and Prophecy Dan 9.24 Or to give such perfect discovery of God's Counsel and Will to the World that the Spirits extraordinary Gifts of Illumination should be no more necessary nor continued But the Quakers by

especially Prayer not knowing a right Understanding how to Pray but by the Assistance and Help thereof which made the Apostle conclude he would Pray with the Spirit and with Vnderstanding And so do we and not a Jogg of our own Spirit as he scoffingly saith 38. In Page 48 He has another fling at Revelation viz. Your Speakers c. Alledging they know not who shall Speak until the Spirit moves in that very Hour of the Assembly nor what shall be spoken A Conceit says he who has many idle ones in his Head that has often made me smile when I have been told a Week before-hand by your selves That such a Man will at such a Day speak at such Place Answ Belike he dare not rely upon the Spirit but must be studying and taking Thought before-hand Howbeit I challenge him to name which of Us and at what Time and Place so told him as aforesaid For I deny it as a Lye as he lays it down invented by him in order to Abuse Us and make way for a frothy Scoff 39. In the same Page viz. Since so many have meaning the Quakers undertaken to justifie that impudent Contradiction to the God of Order and to baffle those two plain Texts 1 Cor. 14.34 35. 1 Tim. 2.11 12. Answ I deny his Charge as Impudent calls on him for his Name and the Proof he is able to make as for the two Texts before and the Matter that relates thereto I refer to a small Treatise thereof printed in the Year 1684 the 10th Month Intituled A Testimony to the fulfilling the Promise of God relating to such Women c. Subscribed by T. C. Also to R. B's Appology with several other of our Friends Books 40. In Page 49 he saith For God's Book has no Place nor Honour in your Assemblies nor do your Teachers submit themselves or Doctrine to that Judge c. Answ If by God's Book he means the Holy Scriptures I deny his Charge For our Teachers as he calls them whom we own do Love and Honour Holy Scriptures and submit their Doctrine to be proved and tried thereby as many Thousands can Witness against this shameless Man Thus having gone through his Work I charge him with 40 most gross Lyes and great Slanders some of which are double some triple others fourfold folded up one in another which may perhaps double the Number besides what I have passed by and looked over as of less moment or in some degree related to what I have above taken Notice of which I leave with him as a Mark of Infamy upon him till he appear like a Man and quit himself thereof or else repent of his Wickedness therein and shall proceed to take Notice of some of his Contradictions and base Inferences referring to other Things and not before touched relating to the South to the Answer before-mentioned by B. C. And as to what he falsly alledgeth to be the Reason of H. W's Conversion as he calls it I refer to what 's before-said to H. W's Book and shall only take some Notice of some of his Contradictions Contradictions 1. THE Title of the said Book of H. W's is The Spirit of Quakerism c. And again towards the end of the Preface thus viz. Such as need to be further acquainted with the very Heart of Quakerism compared with Page 31. viz. And thus it comes to pass that we never know nor ever shall know what is the Doctrine of Quakerism I say Can the Spirit and Heart of Quakerism be known and yet not the Doctrine Or can he tell what that is he knoweth not 2. In Page 39 he saith The Scripture and Quakerism are mutual Enemies What Enememies and yet Mutual Oh strange What are they Mutual Enemies to the Devil and such Lyars as he Let him then consider what he is an Enemy to Yet in Page 31. The Doctrine of Quakerism we never know nor shall know I say Then how knows he that the Scripture and Quakerism are Mutual Enemies 3. Again Page 43. viz. It was a just use of his Reason and Consideration guided by Scripture that represented Quakerism to him c. Compared with Page 31 aforesaid We never know nor shall know what the Doctrine of Quakerism is 4. In Page 23. he saith The Devil himself who one would think is ordinarily one of their Friends seems here to have owed them a Spight For the Devil to be a Friend and yet to owe us Spight are contraries We deny the Devil to be our Friend let him take him who is the Father of Lyes and Liars This Libeller grants the Devil has long owed us a Spight and still doth Oh! how familiar he is with him He knows his Mind And that makes him thus to traduce us and run into gross Contradictions 5. Again Page 24. viz. I freely declare if any of you sincerely value Scripture Light and Rule and do not adhere to the guidance of this mad Spirit this Story intends not to accuse you Now I say if he holds here he has cleared all the Quakers in general except such as are guided or adheres to be guided by a mad Spirit and all such the Quakers have and do deny to be of them But that 's not pleasing to him to know or hear of It 's through their sides that he would strike at the Quakers that are clear and that he seems so freely to declare the Story intends not to Accuse yet in the very next Page contradicts himself viz. What think you of the three dear Sisters True Quakers they were and owned as such to the last But what Spirit what Wild-Fire is this that they and you have chosen for your Guide c. Mark they and you they Quakers here he writes in general and makes no exception as before So that he 's an uncertain Body will not hold to what he pretends to 6. But hear him again in the same Page viz. I will not be so Quaker like as to censure a Multitude for ought whereof I can find tollerable Proof that most are Innocent c. Answ To let pass his Scoff of Quaker-like it 's evident through his whole Work that he has sencured Thousands a Multitude that never heard hereof before The which one would have thought might have been sufficient Proof as to their Innocency if he had been just and honest in what he says and no doubt would especially inasmuch as he has no Proof at least produceth none that any owned the Three whom he scoffingly calls dear Sisters in their endeavouring Prosecution of Law against H. W. c. Only after several Essays and Onsets amounts to mention one by Name to wit J. S. long since in his Grave who from the knowledge I had of him and being charged only by such unjust Persons that has most notoriously abused both dead and living shall not believe it till proved And if this one single Person had been guilty as charged which I do not grant yet who besides a

Man nameless or void of Shame would on one Man's Fault Censure a Multitude And also thereby so far contradict himself Thus having taken Notice of his Contradictions viz. Half a Dozen I shall proceed to the idle Stories of P. Dalston and M. Mark distracted Persons are pregnant Proofs that the Man is Mad Drunk or greatly Intoxicated with bitter Malice against the Quakers especially considering what base frothy sordid and malicious Inferences he draws from the Words and Actions of those two Persons so overpowered by Melancholy besides their Reason and distracted to cast upon the Quakers yea and rather than miss to bespatter and calumniate the Quakers he will make them act Rationally while they are Mad But Wrath is cruel and Anger is outragious but who is able to stand before Envy His like idle and ridiculous Story he gives of him whom he calls An older and more crafty Friend who by the like Revelation came to P. Hobson 's House I ask him what Revelation his like hath relation to the two mad distracted Persons next before taken notice of For it follows the one of them in his said Book Well then will this Man say That he that 's led by the Revelation of a mad or distracted Man can properly be called Crafty What Craft appears in mad or distracted Men For he saith before That is was by Revelation that P. Dalson attempted to swallow his Bed-Sheet and was choaked in the trial Was there any great Craft in that And yet he saith An older and more craftier Friend was he that came by the like Revelation Then methinks he should have the like Ends. This I have said only to shew the hasty Man his Contradiction and Folly But to say something to his Story I have heard of such a Man as P. Hobson but neither that he was either reputed or went by the Name of a Quaker neither doth this Publisher give this crafty Friend of his the Name of a Quaker who rarely is short in any Charge provided it may but affect the Quakers wherefore may be his Friend or P. Hobson's And as he is nameless questioning whether there was ever either such a Man or Thing as he relates I shall leave it as a Matter of his own forging else as a fit nameless Brother to this nameless Publisher Next I shall take Notice of what he relates concerning W. Simpson one that I am not ashamed to own to be one of Us who in the latter end of the time of O. Cromwell had an Exercise upon his Spirit to go through several Towns and Cities in this Nation sometimes naked and with Ashes upon his Head and besmeared as a Sign to that Adulterous Generation of High Professors calling them to Repentance and warning them of an approaching Judgment coming upon them who then had the Rule in both what was then called State and Church for which he was often Imprisoned Whipped and evil Intreated through the hardness of the Hearts of those High Professors then in Authority and in their Pomp and Glory which in a little time after was all laid in the Dust and they turned aside according to the Judgment foretold by W. S. which is worthy noticing And what he adds about the Destruction of Carlisle I deny as false and forged invented to asperse the Dead and calumniate the Quakers against whom his Enmity is so great that he cannot let them alone though in their Graves But proceeds to revile the People called Quakers and the Truth that they profess and bear Testimony unto especially in that he so warmly and zealously espouseth the Cause of so vilely unclean a Man and old Apostate as H. W. with other angry Apostates as G. K. A Combination somewhat resembling that of the High-Priests with Judas Wherefore take heed in time lest the Reward be like in the end As to his like frivolous Stories fetched from Bristol Somersetshire c. I shall refer the Reader to B. C's Answer aforesaid And To what he seems to vent his Spleen in against W. P. in several Pages of his Book I shall tell him that when he gives Us his Name and appears to prove his Charge falsly given against W. P. he may expect to have more Till then I tell him it 's below W. P. to take Notice of such a nameless sculking yet angry Scribler And till then I shall leave him and leave upon him the Mark and Character of one that vilely and maliciously Smites at the Innocent in the Dark hating the Light because his Deeds are Evil. Thus Reader having gone through H. W's Book and what his nameless Publisher adds and taken Notice of what I thought in any respect to be noticed I shall after due Perusal and deliberate Consideration having regard to Truth and good Conscience leave thee honest Reader to judge thereof as thou shalt find occasion recommending thee to that which will undoubtedly give thee a right Understanding as thou comes to be guided and directed thereby to wit the Holy Spirit of Truth which leads into all Truth and shall leave the Issue of this my Labour to the Lord for whose Sake his Truth and People I have undertaken the same As also to inform such as may be ignorant of or prejudiced against the Truth through false and slanderous Reports cast thereupon through the Instigation of that old wicked restless subtle Enemy to all Truth and Righteousness Out of whose Snares that thou Reader and all Men might be rescued and so preserved is the earnest Prayer of him who is a well-wisher to all Mankind T. C. Camsgil the 20th of the 3d Month 1697. FINIS