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A50462 A conference betwixt a Protestant and a Jevv, or, A second letter from a merchant in London to his correspondent in Amsterdam. Mayo, Richard, 1631?-1695.; Jacob, John, 17th cent. 1678 (1678) Wing M1523; ESTC R7786 36,017 42

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essence can neither descend nor ascend 3. Again David speaks of his session at the right hand of God Psal 110.1 The Lord said unto my Lord sit thou at my right hand until I make thine enemies thy footstool By Davids Lord here we must understand the Messiah who though in respect of his humane nature he was Davids son yet in respect of his Divine nature he was Davids Lord. This Christ then who is the eternal Son of God being made flesh and having assumed our nature into a Personal union with his Godhead in that nature which he graciously assumed he suffered and made satisfaction for our sins and in that nature he ascended into heaven and sate down at the right hand of the Majesty on high from whence he will one day come again to judg the quick and the dead Both time and strength would fail me to cite all the Prophecies of the Messiah that are in the Law of Moses and in the Prophets and in the Psalms much more to expound and apply them Several of the most considerable I have a little toucht upon and have shewed you how they are verified and fulfilled in Jesus of Nazareth which was the thing to be demonstrated R. J. Sir your arguing hath not only silenc't me but in some measure convinc't me I know not what 's the matter I find a strange and unwonted working within me Mr. B. Take heed of smuthering and stifling convictions some of your Fathers have done so to their cost Be not asham'd to be Truths captive and to be conquer'd by it Truth is mighty and will prevail What if you should from this day forward become a Christian you will never repent it And let me tell you you are not the first of your Nation that hath so done At the first publishing of the Gospel of Christ though the most of your Nation persisted in unbelief yet many thousands believed and repented and were baptized and in latter times we are not without instances of this very thing I told you but now of some and I can if need be give you a list of a great many more In the year 1310 Nicholas de Lyra of a Jew became a Christian and hath written an excellent Treatise proving by irrefragable arguments that the Messiah is come and that no other is to be expected About that time Paulus Burgensis turn'd Christian also and wrote against Judaism Elias Levita commonly call'd the Gramarian left his Rabbinism and entred the Church of Christ by Baptism bringing some 30 Jews more with him to be baptiz'd about the year 1517. Hieronymus de sancta fide as he 's call'd from a Jew was converted to Christianity and wrote a book call'd Hebraeomastix or the Jews scourge in which he whips them with their own Talmud and approved Rabbins making their own Authors to prove that Jesus is the Christ When the book was publish't in Spain it is reported that by the convincing arguments therein contained above 5000 Jews were turn'd to the faith One Paulus Ricius in the Court of the Emperor Maximilian of a Jew was converted to Christianity and wrote many things against his old misbelief Antonius Margarita converted in heart and baptized converts his hand and pen against the Jews Ernestus Ferdinandus of a Jew became a Professor of the Christian Faith and writes a book which he calls Flagellum Judaeorum Paulus Weidnerus turn'd to Christianity and in his Writings hath call'd upon his backsliding brethren the Jews and hath found Jesus himself to bid them come and see I could tell you of Christianus Gerson Emanuel Tremelius who hath worthily contributed towards the translation of the Bible with a many others And I doubt not but there be many thousands of your Nation that are greatly convinc't and perswaded that Jesus is the Messiah though they do not openly profess it Will you give me leave to relate a story that I have met with in the Writings of Epiphanius a credible and renowned Author 't is concerning one Joseph a Jew who liv'd in the days of Constantine the Great This learned and worthy person doth solemnly protest he had it in order as he relates it from Joseph's own mouth This Joseph laid with the Patriarch of the Jews called Ellel The Patriarch being ready to dye sends Joseph to the Bishop of Tyberias to desire him to come to him under pretence of his being his Physician The Bishop coming to him he beseecheth him to baptize him whereupon the servants are commanded to make ready some water as if it had been for some medicinal use and then they were all commanded to withdraw Joseph looks through some crevice of the door and seeth the Bishop baptize the Patriarch Three days after the Patriarch dying bequeath'd the tuition of his Son not yet at age to Joseph and another These things stuck in Josephs mind and made him desirous to know more of the Christian Religion And there being a certain secret place of supposed treasure which Joseph had now the keys of he opens it and findeth no money but the Gospel of John and the Acts of the Apostles translated into Hebrew and with them Matthews Genealogy The reading of these increased his perplexities but yet did not perswade him to be baptized After this he fell into a sore and dangerous disease and he apprehended that Christ appear'd to him telling him he should recover and exhorting him to believe in him which he promised to do and recovered but continuing obstinate he fell sick again and that so desperately that they had no hope of his life The Jews coming about him to perform those ceremonies and give that advice which they use to do to dying persons one of the chief of them an ancient man skilful in their Law came to him and whisper'd these words in his ear Believe that Jesus who was crucified under Pontius Pilate being the son of God and afterwards born of Mary is the Christ of God and was raised from the dead and shall come again to judge the dead and the living And thus Joseph came to know that among their last mysteries the Jews secretly perswaded dying men to believe There is a great deal more in the story which I have not leisure now to write It ends thus That Christ appear'd again to him in a vision and gave him power to work a miracle for his conviction and still he delayed till at last being advanced by the young Patriarch Judas to a place of rule he exercised so much severity over the wicked Priests that they conspired against him and rushing one day into his house they find him reading the Gospels and snatching the Book out of his hand they draw him to the Synagogue and scourge him till the Bishop of the City came and delivered him After this meeting him on the way they cast him into the River Cydrus and thought they had drown'd him but being delivered he then delayd no longer but profest himself a Christian and
faith and give heed to spirits of error and Doctrines of Demons 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 some render the words Doctrines of Devils but they are better rendred Doctrines of or concerning Daemons the genitive case as some have observed being here to be taken passively for the objects of those Doctrines so that it is a plain prediction of the reviving of the Gentiles Idolatrous Theology of Daemons amongst a sort of revolting and apostatizing Christians as the Papists are and the event hath answered the Prophecy And to the same purpose I might shew you how Rome the chief seat of this Pseudo-Christian or Antichristian sect or party is called Babylon more than once in the Scriptures of the new Testament yea great Babylon the Mother of harlots and abominations of the earth Babylon in the letter was the parent or founder of the worshipping of Daemons Baal or Bel the first King of Babel after Nimrod was the first that ever was deifyed or reputed a God after his death thence afterwards they called all other Daemons Baalim 't is with respect hereto that Rome is call'd mystical Babylon from thence proceeds all this Idolatrous and Daemon-worship for which you are so offended at the Christians The Apostle John in the book call'd his Revelation doth farther tell us that the Christian Church which he calls the holy city shall be trod under foot by the Gentiles forty two months that is it shall be over whelmed with the Gentiles Idolatry And again he speaks of a huge Army that shall come upon the Christian world and destroy a third part of men which we take to be meant of the Ottoman or Turkish invasion which hath swallowed up so great a part of Christendom and yet for all this those which remain will not repent of their sins that they should not worship Daemons and Idols of gold and silver and brass and stone and of wood which neither can see nor hear nor walk No they are hardned in their wickedness and Idolatry and no plagues or judgments of God upon them will turn them from it But whither hath my zeal against this Popish and Pestilent sect carried me I pray you Sir to believe that all Christians are not Papists or Popish Idolaters though they abound still in some Countreys in which it may be you have been most conversant as I remember I hinted to you at our last meeting yet blessed be God of late years they are greatly diminished Time was when the most of these European Nations did drink of the wine of the wrath of this mystical Babylon's fornication and the Kings of the Earth did commit fornication with her but now they begin to hate her and many Nations and Millions of particular Christians are come out of her This is the happy case of the City and Nation in which you now reside I appeal to you whether you have seen or heard of any of the forementioned Idolatries since you came hither Let this therefore lye no longer as a block or stone of stumbling in your way The Lord cure you of this and all other prejudices against Christ and Christianity Oh that he who so loved the world as to give his only begotten son would give you to believe in him that so believing in him you might not perish but have everlasting life This is that stone which was set at nought of you builders and is now become the head of the corner neither is there salvation in any other nor any other name under heaven given among men whereby they may be saved R. J. Sir I am oblig'd to you for your patience and pains in hearing and answering my objections I have this to request of you That you will please to tell me your name and the place of your abode and give me and some others leave to wait upon you to receive information about some particulars which are not proper at this time and place to be proposed Presently Mr. B. told him his name and where he dwelt and added that he should be heartily glad to see him and any he should bring with him at his house and did hope they should be better acquainted Upon this they saluted each other in a friendly sort and the company broke up and departed Father S. and Mr. B. tarried awhile behind and when they two were alone Father S. gave Mr. B. his hearty thanks and told him that he was now farther satisfied that the principles and practises of the Roman Catholicks were a means of hardning and scandalizing the poor Jews that he for his part for that and other reasons should forthwith become a Protestant but that two things did retard his conversion 1. The divisions that were amongst the Protestants he did not know to which party they were so many he should betake himself 2. The dangers he should incur from the Papists and particularly from those of his own fraternity the Jesuits who would certainly some time or other assassinate or murther him This being their avowed principle that it is lawful to kill any man that shall forsake his Order and publish the crimes of his Society if there be no other means to hinder him Mr. B. told him he did not question the removal of these two remora's As to the first said he which is the divisions amongst the Protestants it is grounded upon a misprision or mistake I am able to demonstrate that there is a greater Union amongst the Protestants than amongst the Papists if you peruse the several Confessions of Faith in all the reformed Churches you shall find no material differences they all accord in the main Articles of Religion or in those points which are the vitals and essentials of the Christian Faith their differences are about Church-Discipline and Modes of worship for the most part wherein each party according to the light they have received endeavour to come the nearest they can to the rule that Christ hath prescribed 't is true there are many Heterodox heady high-minded half-witted persons that go under the general name and notion of Protestants such as Quakers Seekers Socinians c. which we disown and they are no more of us than they are of you Nay we have good reason to believe that these upstart Sects amongst us are of your begetting therefore 't is meet that you should father them Though the Protestants go under several denominations as Calvinists and Lutherans abroad and as Episcoparians Presbyterians and Independents here at home yet it is idle and ridiculous to think that because they are of these several denominations they are of several Religions Do you like to have it said there are many different Religions in the Papacy because there are found many different orders and denominations therein as Thomists Scotists Jesuits Jansenists Molinists Dominicans Franciscans and the like We should be sorry to hear of such differences and divisions amongst us as are amongst the several parties in the Church of Rome How great are their differences about