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A62179 The cruell subtilty of ambtioin [sic] discovered in a discourse concerning the King of Spaines surprizing the Valteline / written in Italian by the author of the Historie of the Counsell of Trent ; translated by the renowned Sir Thomas Roe, Knight ... with his epistle to the House of Commons in Parliament ...; Discorso sopra le ragioni della resolutione fatta in Val Telina contra la tirannide de' Grisoni & heretici.. English Sarpi, Paolo, 1552-1623.; Roe, Thomas, Sir, 1581?-1644. 1650 (1650) Wing S695; ESTC R9079 64,072 117

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them had commanded in his holy Law when he said Goe and teach all Nations that onely intimation should be made to peaceful and quiet Infidels which had their proper Lands and if they did not presently receiue the Faith without other preaching or instruction and should not submit themselues to the dominion of that King whom they neuer saw nor heard whose messengers are so cruell so impious and so horrible Tyrants that they should lose for this onely Cause their goods lands liberty wiues children and life which is a thing vnreasonable absurd worthy of all reproach infamy it Hell selfe Thus wisely speaking of the same matter though vpon another occasion discourseth the Reuerend Bishop of Chiappa a principall Citie of New Spaine in the Indies called Fiyat Bartholmy dalle Case by Nation a Spanyard by birth a Siuilian but zealous of Iustice and a friend of truth in his books of the destruction of the Indies But returning to our Subiect The King Atabaliba was iustly scandalized and grieuously moued at this so learned preaching that answering to euery point amongst other things he said these words Obedecer al Papa no me esta bien Jgllescas vbi supra porque dene de ser loco paesdà lo que no es suyo y me manda dexar el Reyno que yè heredè de mi padre y quiere que yo le dè à qui en no conesco That is To obey the Pope is not good for mee because hee must needs be a foole seeing he giueth that to another which is none of his and commands me to leaue that Kingdome which I haue inherited from my father and would I should giue it to one that I know not what he is He could not certainly answer more wisely according to the Proposition which was also false Seeing the Pope was not so void of Iudgement to haue granted any such conquest to the Catholique King or any other especially by the way of warre as the holy Preacher with threats did affirme being in it selfe vniust and wicked And therefore the aforementioned Bishop of Chiappa carnestly defending the truth did send vpon this matter thirty propositions to the Royall Councell of India printed in Cinill in the yeare 1552. In the 23 whereof he thus speaketh Soiurgallos primero por guerra Vescoue di Chiappanelle 30. prepositions es ferma y uia centraria de la ley y yugo suaue y cargalegera y mansedumbre de Iesu Christo Esla propia que lleuè Mahoma y lleuaron los Romanos con que inquietaron y robaron el mondo Es la que tienen oy los Turcos y Meres y que comenca à tener el Xarife Y per tanto es iniquissima tirannica infamatiua del mellifluo nombre de Christo causatiua de infinitas nuebas blasfemias contra el verdadero Dios jeentra la religien Christiana Come tenemes longissima experientie que se hàeche y oy se haze en las Indias porque estimande Diet ser el mas cruel y mas iniusta y sin piedad que ay en los Dioses y per consiguiente es impeditiua de la Conuersion de qualesquiera Infielcs y que ha engendrade impossibilidad de que jamas sean Christianos en à quel orbe gentes infinitas That is To subdue them by warre is a forme and way contrary to the law to the sweet yoke to the easie burthen and to the meeknesse of Iesus Christ It is the same which Mahomet and the Romans did hold wherewith they did disturbe and violate the world it is the same which at this day the Turkes and Moores maintaine and the Verif doth beginne to practice and therfore it is most wicked tyrannicall infamous to the glorious name of Christ the cause of infinite and new Blasphemies against the true God and Christian Religion as we haue by long experience knowne to haue beene and yet vsed amongst the Indians For they haue an opinion of God that he is the most cruell the most vniust and merciless of all other gods And by Consequence it is the hinderance of the Conuersion of all sorts of Infidels and hath caused an impossibiltie that multitudes of People should euer become Christians In the last proposition whereof he concludes De todo lo susodiche en fuerça de consequentia necessaria se sigue que sin persuycio deltitulo y senerso soberano que à los Reys de Castilla pertenece sobrea quel orbe de las Indias todo lo que en ellas le hà echo ansi en lo de las insustas y tirannicas conqusstas como en lo de los repartimientos y en comiendas hà sido nulla y de ningun valor nefuerça de dereche That is From all the fore alleaged matters it is necessarily inferred that without preiudice of the title and Soueraigne Dominion which appertaines to the Kings of Castile in that world of India all that hath beene done as well concerning the vniust and Tyrannicall Conquest as the Diuisions and Commenda's is void of no value and vnlawfull And in the seuenth Rule of his Confessaries the same good Prelate vitereth these words Todas las cosas Vescouo di Chiappancl Consesstienario que se han echo en todas estas Indias assi cula entrada de los Espanoles en cada provincia dellas como en la suetion y seruidumbre en que pusieron estas gentes con todos los nudios y fines y todo lo demas que con ellas y cerca dellas se ha cohs ha sido contrà todo derecho natural y derecho de las gentes y tambien contra derecho diuino y por tanto es todo ininsto imque tirannico y digno di todo fuego insernal y por conseguiente mille enualido y sin algun valor ni momento de derecho That is All things which haue beene done in these Indies as well in the Entrance of the Spaniards to euery Prouince thereof as in the subiction and seruitude to which they haue reduced this People with all the meanes and ends and all that besides which therein or concerning them hath been done is against all Law of Nature and Nations and contrary to the Law of God and therefore it is wholly vniust wicked tyrannicall and worthy of Hell-fire and by consequence annihilated inualid of no force nor iuridicall power Certainly Sacred Maiestie The Assertions of this Prelate are such that they strike horror onely in hearing and almost resemble open Maledictions of a minde subdued to Passion But who shall diligently reade all his workes and shall consider distinctly euery circumstance shall clearly know that these are apprehensions of truth exprest with an holy zeale free from all passion or interest onely in the defence of right Friar Bartholomy dalle Case spent the most part of his life in India Forty nine continued yeares as himselfe affirmes hee saw that which therein was done and